[Rhodes22-list] Look MOM "no hands"

Leland LKUHN at cnmc.org
Thu Nov 22 07:28:04 EST 2007


Bob,

Great tip on setting the main to stall before the head sail.  Can't wait to
try it.  I lock the tiller almost every time out, and it's rare that I have
steady winds for very long.  Less trim more beer.

Thanks!

Lee



Bob Weber wrote:
> 
> 
> I have been able to trim my rhodes to sail hands free when sailing close
> hauled in varying conditions (wind speed not so much with widely varying
> direction).  The trick is to get the boat sailing on a perfect close
> hauled course with both sails trimmed perfectly.  Find the helm position
> that will sail a straight line (this is where wind speed variance causes
> problems) then move the helm slightly to bring you toward the wind. 
> Loosen the mainsheet so it stalls well before the head sail does.  Open
> book, grab beer and watch her sail.  The goal is to have the boat Hunt
> towards the wind and stall the main about once a minute.  With the
> headsail full of air and the main stalled the boat will get pushed back
> downwind and then the cycle gets repeated - book gets read, beer and
> skipper get drunk.  Most people know this trick but for those who didn't
> you can thank me next time you have a long upwind sail in winds 3 to 10. 
> Bob W> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:50:03 -0500> From:
> robert at squirrelhaven.com> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re:
> [Rhodes22-list] Rudder angle, tacking, and racing> > I agree with keeping
> the boat in trim as an efficient way of > doing things, as I noted in the
> original message. However, > based on experience with rudder angle up to
> this point in > using it to scull, etc., I think the subject needs more >
> experimental input than theoretical discussion.> > I would also note that
> it is difficult if not impossible to > keep a boat in perfect trim under
> varying conditions.> > I await the results of real world testing.> >
> /Robert> > Richard Smith wrote:> > > > >From a hydrodynamic standpoint all
> that raking the rudder blade aft would> > accomplish is to increase the
> apparent chord of the blade (assuming that the> > water flow is more or
> less parallel with the water surface. ) This would> > increase the
> Reynolds # (good) but lower the camber to chord ratio (not good> > for
> slow speeds).> > > > In my opinion it is much more important to trim your
> boat for a natural> > helm. This will avoid the drag caused by continually
> correcting weather or> > lee helm.> > > > Richard Smith> > > > -----
> Original Message -----> > From: "Robert Skinner"
> <robert at squirrelhaven.com>> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:47
> PM> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rudder angle, tacking, and racing> > > > >
> When you angle the rudder aft, it has the effect> > > of changing the foil
> shape to one more efficient> > > for slower speeds. This reduces the stall
> speed> > > of the rudder just as a flap does on an airplane> > > wing.> >
> >> > > So, to check this theory while racing, lift the> > > rudder when
> tacking, but lower it when running> > > free or in strong wind.> > >> > >
> When on a beam reach, having the rudder aligned> > > with the axis of the
> gudgeons will reduce tiller> > > effort if the sails are not balanced, or
> if you> > > get a great gust with a weather helm.> > >> > > Betcha you
> will go faster. Let me know - I'm> > > out of the water 'til spring.> > >>
> > > /Robert> > > --------------------------------------------------> > >
> Leland wrote:> > > >> > > > Jb,> > > >> > > > First of all, great
> pictures. Your boat is beautiful and your pictures> > of> > > > the
> regatta reminded me that Annapolis isn't the only place to see a> > bunch>
> > > > of sailboats. Catch that fish off of your Rhodes?> > > >> > > > I
> never thought about lifting the rudder to reduce drag on a tack.> >
> Although> > > > it makes sense, I probably won't do it just out of pure
> laziness. Is> > this a> > > > common technique with the racing crowd?> > >
> >> > > > Lee> > > > 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease> > > > Crab Alley (Kent Island,
> MD)> > > >> > > > Just bent wrote:> > > > >> > > > > I did that on purpose
> so when I throw the tiller over to tack, it> > doesn't> > > > > put on the
> brakes as much, but still turns.> > > > > Jb> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >
> Rob Lowe wrote:> > > > >>> > > > >> Just bent,> > > > >> Just finished
> looking at your photos (thanks). Noticed the position> > of> > > > >>
> your> > > > >> rudder. It appears not to be down all the way. Is there
> some sort> > or a> > > > >> "down haul" that pulls the rudder down into a
> vertical position? Try> > it> > > > >> and> > > > >> see if your
> maneuvering improves. - rob> > > > >>> > > > >> Rob Lowe> > > > >> S/V
> Getaway> > > > >>> > > > >> ----- Original Message -----> > > > >> From:
> "Just bent" <j.bulfer at jbtek.com>> > > > >> To:
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> > > > >> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007
> 11:39 PM> > > > >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] new boat position> > > > >>> >
> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> I moved my boat about 12" forward on the
> trailer. It towed much> > better.> > > > >> I'll> > > > >>> check the
> weight tomorrow.> > > > >>> Lots of sailors out today. New pics on the ftp
> site.> > > > >>>> > > > >>> ftp://ftp.jbtek.com/pub/> > > > >>>> > > > >>>
> Jbulfer> > > > >>> "Just bent"> > > > >>>
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