[Rhodes22-list] Small World: was175 Genoa

elle watermusic38 at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 27 19:53:16 EST 2007


>.now I've got the date AND YEAR!  I promise not to
tell, especially since
> we're the same age.

Nope...I'm younger...I started school in NY so when we
moved to PA (Hershey High School...class of '66) I was
a full year younger than everyone else....

And April is not even close!

elle
--- Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:

> 
> Elle,
> 
> So if your birthday is:
> 
> "WEDNESDAY...APRIL 4!
> 
> (CRASH...chair just broke!)"
> 
> ...now I've got the date AND YEAR!  I promise not to
> tell, especially since
> we're the same age.
> 
> Give me your maiden name and I'll mention it to Ned,
> unless you did things
> in high school I shouldn't know about.  More
> important, give me a call and
> let me know what he did in high school that I
> shouldn't know about.
> 
> Lee
> 202.476.5369
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Elle-3 wrote:
> > 
> > Lee,
> > 
> > Small world time...I happened to have gone thru 4
> yrs
> > of high school (in the same classes) with the
> > Children's' Hosp. CEO.
> > 
> > He was a trip..
> > 
> > 
> > elle
> > 
> > 
> > --- Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> Rex,
> >> 
> >> The 4.6 knots was true wind.  I think the
> apparent
> >> wind was a little above 6
> >> knots.
> >> 
> >> I posted this last week:  "The fastest I made it
> the
> >> rest of the day was 1.3
> >> knots on a close reach with an apparent wind of 3
> >> knots with the 175 genoa
> >> all the way out.  At 50 degrees, that would
> >> calculate to a 2.38 true wind. 
> >> The white sail of the genoa was inflated but the
> UV
> >> protector was flopped
> >> over.  I furled the genoa in until the UV
> protector
> >> flew straight back with
> >> the rest of the sail, which brought the headsail
> >> down to about 90%.  My
> >> speed:  still 1.3 knots.  My assumption:  If you
> >> haven't enough wind to blow
> >> that UV strip straight back, you've got way too
> much
> >> genoa out."
> >> 
> >> If you have almost nonexistent wind and you're on
> a
> >> run, it seems like you'd
> >> want as much sail out as possible to catch any
> >> little bit of wind.  If
> >> you're on a close reach, extra sail may slow you
> >> down because it would be
> >> fighting the aerodynamics.  Your boom keeps the
> >> mainsail somewhat taught and
> >> it shouldn't hinder the aerodynamics nearly as
> much,
> >> so it might make sense
> >> to sail on main alone on a close reach with
> little
> >> wind.
> >> 
> >> Of course, I could be totally wrong.  Since I
> seem
> >> to be trying to sail in
> >> no wind all the time, I'll put your theory to the
> >> test next time I'm out.
> >> 
> >> Lee
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> CRex wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > Leland:
> >> >        Your numbers bear out my opinions on the
> >> 175's effectiveness---as
> >> > does your comment about asthetics although I
> would
> >> have thought the 4.6
> >> > number would have been nearer 7 or 8.   One
> >> measurement I had hoped to do
> >> > before the season ended (yes....Bow vs. Wave
> was
> >> officially winterized
> >> > last week), was whether the 175's deployment in
> >> light winds while running
> >> > is really counterproductive.  During 3 races
> where
> >> there were
> >> > light-to-nonexistent winds this past year, I
> >> actually finished better with
> >> > the 175 furled and using only the main. 
> However,
> >> this is an opinion based
> >> > upon how I placed against other sailboats and
> not
> >> based upon a measured
> >> > speed.  Any comments?
> >> >          I apologize for not checking the
> achives
> >> (Ed, I'm busy composing
> >> > this email) but what's the ideal whisker pole
> >> arrangement for the 175?  
> >> > I've ruined two 12' boat hooks trying to use
> them
> >> as whisker
> >> > poles---because they are cheap!  Has someone
> found
> >> a reasonably priced
> >> > whisker pole on the market that will work for
> the
> >> Rhodes22?   If so, where
> >> > is the ideal attachment point?  
> >> >   Rex 
> >> > 
> >> > Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
> >> >   
> >> > Art & others,
> >> > 
> >> > I still wouldn't give up my 175, but after
> testing
> >> its speed in several
> >> > conditions, I was surprised at how little of a
> >> difference it makes.
> >> > 
> >> > On close and beam reaches, it looks like you
> need
> >> over a 3 knot true wind
> >> > to
> >> > fully inflate it. If it's not fully inflated,
> >> you'll go just as fast with
> >> > about half as much headsail. If the true wind
> is
> >> over 6 knots, you start
> >> > increasing your speed by reducing headsail and
> >> decreasing heel. In the
> >> > middle of the 175's ideal zone (4.6 knot true
> >> wind) on a close reach, my
> >> > speed was only reduced from 3.5 knots to 3.2
> knots
> >> by reducing the genoa
> >> > to
> >> > the outside shroud (about 115%).
> >> > 
> >> > Wing-on-wing on a run without a whisker pole
> and
> >> it's difficult to keep
> >> > the
> >> > big 175 completely inflated.
> >> > 
> >> > I haven't checked the speed difference on a
> broad
> >> reach. I assume you
> >> > might
> >> > be able to pick up a little additional speed,
> but
> >> I can't imagine that
> >> > it's
> >> > more than half a knot from a 135 or 155 genoa.
> >> > 
> >> > Speed isn't everything, and the big 175 can
> sure
> >> look pretty.
> >> > 
> >> > Lee
> >> > 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
> >> > Crab Alley (Kent Island, MD)
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> > 
> > We can't change the angle of the wind....but we
> can adjust our sails.
> > 
> >  1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady
> in Red)
> > 
> > 
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