[Rhodes22-list] Question for Thena

[Hank]

My sail had nylon grommets installed where the line passes through.  I think
this would help prevent water entering between the laminate layers.

Hank


On 10/29/07, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hank,
>
> Found the quote from the North Sails website:
>
> "You will be cruising the Baltic and Mediterranean in style with your
> Dehler
> 44. With the Dutchman flaking system you will not find any change in the
> performance of the main. With laminate sails there is always the concern
> about mold spores getting introduced into the sail. The filament lines
> allow
> water to travel down through the sail cover and into the sail and possibly
> introduce mildew. Of course there are many other ways that mildew can get
> started in a sail so I would recommend having the sails treated with
> SailKote Plus made by McLube. Otherwise Dutchman is probably the best
> flaking system."
>
> There was also an earlier quote pointing out the downsides of 'stack pack'
> systems but now I see North sells an equivalent product.  Maybe they need
> to
> go back and clean up their "advice" section.
>
> The S2 owners list is pretty quiet but I did just get an e-mail from
> another
> 9.2C owner who is also a Neil Pryde rep.  He highly recommended the Strong
> Track system (about $1000 for my rig).  That will raise another issue.  I
> can install a new track without de-masting but my mast badly needs
> repainting. It doesn't make sense to install new hardware without going
> through the pain and expense of painting prior to upgrade.  Life is sure
> simpler when you can do repairs in the backyard.
>
> Brad
>
> On 10/29/07, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't think I had full battens and I know I did not have any issues
> with
> > staining.  Are you trying to suggest that a salesman for one product
> might
> > actually tell an untruth about a competitor's product?  Say it isn't so!
> >
> > Hank
> >
> >
> > On 10/29/07, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hank,
> > >
> > > Did you have full battens?  I understand that makes it easier to flake
> > as
> > > well.  The only downside to the dutchman system I've read about is
> that
> > > moisture runs down the lines and eventually stains the sails.  Did you
> > > have
> > > that experience?  Come to think of it, whoever  stated that was
> selling
> > > another system.  The stack system with the integral cover looks
> > attractive
> > > as well but at what cost I don't know.  If I go with a new track or
> luff
> > > car
> > > system, the stack may be too high for my current cover.  This ain't
> > gonna
> > > be
> > > cheap any way you slice it.
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > > On 10/29/07, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Brad,
> > > >
> > > > I had a dutchman system on my Islander 36 and I absolutely loved it!
> > > > Flaking the main was soooo easy and it didn't fall off the boom as
> you
> > > > flaked it.
> > > >
> > > > Hank
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/29/07, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thena,
> > > > >
> > > > > I found the guys in Ocean Springs and Biloxi and intend to visit
> > with
> > > > them
> > > > > today.  Chris Rooke at Rooke Sails has repaired my main before but
> > I'm
> > > > > pretty sure he doesn't have a full blown loft.  He's right by the
> > > > airport
> > > > > so
> > > > > I'll visit with him tomorrow on the way to work.  We have no plans
> > to
> > > > sell
> > > > > the boat but Fan convinced me that installing an aftermarket
> > > > > behind-the-mast
> > > > > furler would make the boat an odd duck and more difficult to
> > > sell.  She
> > > > > know's little about sailing but I think she's probably right about
> > > this
> > > > > issue.  I do need to address the luff track binding which will
> only
> > > get
> > > > > worse if I go with full battens.  That needs to be discussed with
> > the
> > > > > sailmaker and a decision made to go with battslides, one of the
> new
> > > mast
> > > > > tracks, or just an upgrade in slides, perhaps Allslides.  My goal
> is
> > > not
> > > > > to
> > > > > spend more than 10% of the value of the boat replacing just the
> > main,
> > > > and
> > > > > that would be easy to do if you get carried away with
> > > upgrades.  Another
> > > > > issue that it's time to address is to choose between a dutchman
> > > flaking
> > > > > system, or lazy jacks, or a Doyle Stack/Mack Stack system - or
> > > > > nothing.  Too
> > > > > many choices and they all cost $$.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/28/07, Thena <thenacarville at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brad,
> > > > > > I know these guys and like them both, but when I searched, there
> > was
> > > a
> > > > > > listing for someone called Rooke Sails on Prescott Street in
> > > > > Memphis...and
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > listing for someone in Ocean Springs and one in Biloxi...no idea
> > how
> > > > > good
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > reliable they are, but they are listed...also don't know if they
> > are
> > > > > still
> > > > > > in business...
> > > > > > Thena
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Brad
> > > Haslett
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 9:53 PM
> > > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Question for Thena
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thena,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, neither one showed-up on my original web research but I
> > > found
> > > > > > their
> > > > > > phone numbers after a specific Google search and will place some
> > > calls
> > > > > > tomorrow.  If you think of some more let me know.  There isn't a
> > > loft
> > > > > > within
> > > > > > 300 miles of Memphis that I know of so I may as well use someone
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > Gulf
> > > > > > where I visit frequently.  They could probably use the business.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brad
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 10/28/07, Thena <thenacarville at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, as a matter of fact I do...both are very small lofts
> > > affiliated
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > known names...Sobstadt is Chris Schramel and North Sails is
> Benz
> > > > > > > Faget...know and like them both...use them both... been
> sailing
> > > and
> > > > > > > drinking
> > > > > > > with them for many years...there is another small loft, but I
> > > don't
> > > > > know
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > guy...could find out about him if you want......
> > > > > > > Thena
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Brad
> > > > Haslett
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 9:21 PM
> > > > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Question for Thena
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thena,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you know of some sail lofts in your area?  I've found a a
> > small
> > > > one
> > > > > > > near
> > > > > > > Biloxi, Ulman has one in Mandeville, and Banks has one near
> > > NO.  I'd
> > > > > > like
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > do business with someone on the Gulf Coast, the smaller the
> > > > > better.  Any
> > > > > > > suggestions?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brad
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