[Rhodes22-list] Electronics
stan
stan at rhodes22.com
Tue Apr 1 11:08:15 EDT 2008
and I would be a buyer instead of a seller
but your creativity does qualify you to work for GBI
ss
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To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electronics
> Stan,
> Here's a better solution, just give all the optional equipment away free.
> That certainly would make the R22 a better value.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 4/1/2008 8:07:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> stan at rhodes22.com writes:
>
> In defense of GB's stance on options - Rose will tell you I am never
> wrong
> (or at least that I never admit I am wrong)
>
> You have to understand the options position from the selling side of the
> field. Buyers come to us with budgets. Perhaps they do not expect us to
> take them seriously but we do. If you can afford the best way to go with
> everything, we are for it. What we have to avoid, for the well being of
> both buyer and seller, is the buyer wanting everything and pricing him or
> herself out of being able to afford a Rhodes, costing GB a sale and the
> List
> a new member; a lose, lose, lose option.
>
> ss, op (optional salesman)
>
> all apologies accepted
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Bickerstaff" <tabick at mchsi.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electronics
>
>
>> Thanks, PT
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Peter Thorn
>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 5:25 PM
>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electronics
>>
>>
>>
>> Three years ago an experienced delivery Captain and his young crew
>> perished
>> in the Neuse River while delivering a new 35' boat to the Miami boat
>> show.
>> The Coast Guard station at Cherry Point was only 5 miles away, but all
>> they
>> had on board was a hand-held VHF. The investigation afterwards revealed
>> the
>> Coast Guard could not hear the weaker signal from their hand-held VHF to
>> pin
>> point their location. Had they a fixed mount VHF with a (higher) mast
>> mounted antenna, they might be alive today.
>>
>> Tom, I would rethink that built-in antenna.
>>
>> PT
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 5:02 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electronics
>>
>> Tom,
>> I am one of the people that disagrees with Stan and Lee on the VHF.
>> It may depend somewhat on your situation. We sail on the Chesapeake
>> where there are a lot of other boaters. If some issues a Mayday, a
>> Pan-pan or Securite call they do that over VHF. If you need to issue
>> a Mayday and you call the Coast Guard on your cell phone they will
>> hear you but other boaters in the area (who may be much closer than
>> the CG) will not. You may not need to deal with bridges or commercial
>> shipping. We do and I find it easier to call a bridge tender on VHF.
>> You can call them on the phone but you need to have a separate number
>> for each bridge. You generally cannot contact the bridge of a
>> commerical vessel by cell but you can with VHF. A handheld will work.
>> We used one for years before adding the masthead antenna because we
>> liked the added range - particularly for picking up messages from
>> other people with handhelds. And as Lee said you can use it for
>> weather forecasts. That said if we are on the Bay on a busy weekend,
>> the radio is usually off unless we need it. There is just too much
>> traffic.
>>
>> We use a transom mount type fishfinder for depth (not permanently
>> mounted) and a bulkhead compass mounted on a board in the
>> companionway. We seem to have have an unreasonable aversion to
>> cutting holes in the boat.
>>
>> Best,
>> Mary Lou
>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>> Rock Hall, MD
>>
>>
>> At 02:26 PM 3/31/2008, you wrote:
>>
>>>Tom,
>>>
>>>I might want to take you up on sailing the Big Assawoman. The
>>>invitation
>> is
>>>also open for Kent Island if you want to get some Rhodes sailing before
>> your
>>>boat arrives.
>>>
>>>Lost of people will disagree, but I'd take Stan's advice on the VHF. I
>> have
>>>a cheap handheld and only use it for weather forecasts. Once I used it
>>>to
>>>call the Coast Guard and they told me to call back on my cell phone.
>>>
>>>Regarding your questions, I posted this about a year ago:
>>>
>>>"I had Stan install a Plastismo Contest 101 in my portside bulkhead.
>>>West
>>>Marine's list price is $215, but they'll normally match any Internet
>>>price
>>>you can find. I think they sold it to me for about $135 to $140. I
>>>like
>> it
>>>because it's two-sided so you can read it from inside the cabin. I
>>>often
>>>lock the tiller and go below to lay down on the settee, not that I'm
>>>lazy
>> or
>>>anything. It's nice to be able to see the compass to ensure you don't
>>>go
>>>off course.
>>>
>>>Stan and others will tell you that a depth finder (fish finder) isn't
>>>necessary because your centerboard and rudder will tell you when it gets
>> too
>>>shallow. This is proof that even Stan isn't right all the time. Ask
>>>Rose.
>>>I use my fish finder all the time. Even if you don't damage your
>>>centerboard and rudder by dragging them on the bottom, you'll certainly
>>>knock the bottom paint off of them. I like to sail close to shore, and
>> it's
>>>nice to know when it starts getting shallow. I had Stan install a
>>>Humminbird Matrix 17 with the temperature/speed accessory on the
>>>starboard
>>>side bulkhead. It was about $100. You'll need transducer paint to
>>>keep
>> the
>>>speed wheel turning, and even then it's nowhere nearly as accurate as a
>> GPS.
>>>It will let you know if you're speeding up or slowing down to help you
>>>trim
>>>your sails. (Tom: Don't get a speedwheel. Even with transducer paint
>>>it
>>>will get marine growth in no time at all.)
>>>
>>>It cost more to install the instruments than to purchase them, but
>>>Stan's
>>>crew did an excellent job. I'm way overpaid and totally inept, so it
>>>would
>>>have cost me much more to do it myself.
>>>
>>>I haven't ventured far from the marina and normally try to get in before
>>>dark, so I thought a GPS would be more of a toy than something I really
>>>needed, but I would definitely recommend at least getting a cheap
>>>handheld
>>>for safety. I use mine to check my speed more than anything else. I
>>>have
>> a
>>>Garmin C276, but it mostly depends on how much money you want to spend.
>>>Paper charts are still easier to read. I absolutely recommend that you
>>>do
>>>not purchase a Magellan GPS. I had nothing but nightmares with that
>> company
>>>(except that nightmares stop when you wake up).
>>>
>>>Good luck with your choices!"
>>>
>>>Lee
>>>1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
>>>Kent Island, MD
>>>
>>>___________________________________________________________________________
>> ______________
>>>
>>> >From Tom:
>>>
>>>Hi guys,
>>>
>>>I thought I had a name picked out ("Mischief II") for the 1999 R22 that
>> Stan
>>>is recycling for me even as I write. But since the hull will be navy
>>>and
>>>since I'm "forever in Blue Jeans" that are baggy and worn at the knees,
>>>my
>>>wife suggested "Rag Bag" or "Blue Jeans". It will be one of the three.
>>>Stan has me talked out of a mast antenna and a cockpit-mounted VHF,
>>>since
>>>GPS and cell phones work great for communicating these days.
>>>
>>>At any rate, since I'll be sailing mostly in the Big Assawoman Bay
>>>(BAB),
>>>which is extremely shallow in spots and tends to shoal a bit, I'm still
>>>inclined to go with a depth gauge. And I'm also inclined to install a
>>>wall-mounted compass in the cockpit area. Does anyone have any thoughts
>>>on
>>>brands to look for / stay away from?
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Tom Bickerstaff ("Bick")
>>>
>>>P.S. I should be "up and running" by the end of June, so if anybody
>>>finds
>>>him/herself near Ocean City, MD and wants to check out the BAB, just let
>>>me
>>>know.
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