[Rhodes22-list] E85

Brad Haslett flybrad at gmail.com
Thu Apr 17 09:23:08 EDT 2008


Rik,

You hope you're buying 10% or less ethanol.  The way it is mixed at the tank
farm is pretty crude and that is why it is called "splash" blending.  Here's
a link to some marine issues-

http://www.theoutboardwizard.com/boat_ethanol_danger_precaution.html

Brad

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Rik Sandberg <sanderico1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Slim,
>
> What you're buying here in MN isn't E85, it's gasoline with 10% ethanol
> added. You've been running the stuff in your car for years. So have I.
> Most pumps say "this fuel contains 10% ethanol"
>
> There aren't many stations around yet that have E85. If you find one,
> the pump generally has a yellow hose and the pump definitely says E85 on
> it. Our Cenex in town has E85. It's the only one. Yes, unless you have a
> flex fuel vehicle, you don't want to try to use this stuff.
>
> Ethanol enriched gasoline is 10% ethanol and 90% gas. Most any internal
> combustion engine can run this stuff, unmodified, with no problem. This
> has been sold at most every station in MN for almost 30 years E85 is 85%
> ethanol and 15% gasoline ..... Big difference.
>
> Your scooter friend doesn't know what he is talking about.
>
> Rik
>
> Steven Alm wrote:
> > I've got some good news and some bad news.  The good news is that we
> finally
> > got some spring-like weather up here in Minneapolis and I got the
> scooter
> > out for a nice long ride.  The bad news is that I was talking to another
> > biker dude who told me he goes down to Iowa and loads up on gas for his
> bike
> > because Iowa doesn't use any ethanol.  He told me virtually all gas
> stations
> > in Minnesota have it.  I thought they had to put a sticker on the pumps
> > saying it's E85.  WTF?
> >
> > I know we've discussed this before but IIRC engines have to be reworked
> to
> > run on ethanol because it's hard on hoses, gives lower gas-mileage and
> so
> > on, and so-called "flex fuel vehicles" have undergone this modification.
> > But I'm sure the vast majority of Minnesotans have not made these
> > modifications to their cars so I'm wondering if we're all ruining our
> cars
> > or was this biker dude just blowing smoke.  I've googled around a bit
> and
> > can't find evidence one way or the other if all or how many Minnesota
> gas
> > stations have it now.  Or if it's required that pumps display a sticker.
> >
> > I'm not at all on the corn-produced ethanol bandwagon and don't see it
> as a
> > viable option--unless of course you're a corn farmer of which there are
> a
> > lot in this neck of the woods.  But there's probably no place that grows
> > more corn than Iowa.  So what do the Iowegians know that we Minnesotans
> > don't know about ethanol?  More importantly, am I wrecking my scooter's
> > engine?  My out board?  My V-8 without even knowing that I'm running
> E85?
> > Aside--they're all running well but I haven't checked gas mileage
> lately.
> >
> > Slim
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