[Rhodes22-list] motor flushing/ non political

Thu Aug 28 00:38:07 EDT 2008

The old 2-cycles were never what I would call quiet.  I rarely use ours at 
more than 1/2 throttle (every rattle and rail sings) and most of the time, 
even less.  We make 3-4 knots at 1/3 throttle and that is generally quiet 
enough to talk over without shouting, although one could not sleep with the 
engine running.  I look at the R22 as a sailboat with an engine to be used 
in the river (when behind the cliffs and out of the wind) or when the wind 
goes somewhere else (or I am just too tired to tack back and forth.)  My 
real concern is that the engine needs to be dependable.  Everything else 
such as low noise, high speed, fuel efficiency, power generation, etc. is 
just not as important.  I will keep this old 2-cycle going as long as 
possible.

Mike
s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
       Nissequogue River, NY

From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 
7:08 PM
>I think you're right. They don't make motors like they used to. I
> think it's a "modern" 4 stroke issue. I remember reading that the 4
> strokes have narrower passages and closer tolerances. I put modern in
> quotes because we heard some rumblings about it when we bought our
> Honda in 1998 and some of those rumblings were 10 years old then.
> Quiet was a real issue for us because we knew that even if we sailed
> out for an overnight there was a good chance we would motor back.
> Those motor backs were a lot more pleasant with the quiet Honda.
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22  Fretless
> Rock Hall, MD
>
> At 06:08 PM 8/27/2008, you wrote:
>>I really wonder if it is all that necessary to flush the motor.  Maybe we
>>have been lucky for nearly 30 years.  Maybe they don't make engines like
>>they used to.  I use a mooring in the Nissequogue River and have no access
>>to fresh water after motoring to mooring.  I just raise and tilt the old 
>>'79
>>Suzuki DT7.5 2-cycle that is mostly aluminum and never seemed to have an
>>issue with salt (LI Sound.)  It still starts on the first or second pull 
>>and
>>runs like a champ (even on E-85 mixed with 2-cycle oil.)  Never quite but
>>always dependable.
>>
>>Maybe it is just running on memory like the rest of us ...
>>
>>Mike
>>s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>>From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 
>>2008
>>5:49 PM
>> > After every use if it is going to be sitting for more than a day or
>> > two. The new Yamaha has a flushing port. Just hook up the hose and
>> > let it run for 5 or 10 minutes. Motor doesn't have to be on.  Salt in
>> > the cooling passages killed our old Honda so the flushing feature was
>> > part of our decision on the Yamaha. The Hondas we looked at had a
>> > similar mechanism but you had to take the cowling off to get to it.
>> > Don't know if the Nissan/Tohatsu motors are as prone to saltwater
>> > corrosion but we didn't want to risk it after killing the Honda. It
>> > didn't have a flushing mechanism other than muffs or a bucket which
>> > seemed to us to be too hard to do in the slip.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Mary Lou
>> > 1991 R22 Fretless
>> > Rock Hall, MD
>> >
>> > At 04:59 PM 8/27/2008, you wrote:
>> >>Curious to know how often any body flushes their outboards ?
>> >>
>> >>I m doing it every few weeks right now. Really foul foul water near
>> >>my slip.
>> >>I use a large bucket under the prop , raising my Garelick mount up
>> >>all the way the prop is almost out of the water.
>> >>I ve got the Tohatsu 6 with 20" shaft.  new motor
>> >>
>> >>Lou
>> >>s/v Miracles
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>On Aug 27, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Benjamin Cittadino wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Tootle;
>> >> >
>> >> > I believe President Clinton was suspended (not disbarred) for 5
>> >> > years by
>> >> > the Arkansas Supreme Ct.  There was later an order by the US 
>> >> > Supremes
>> >> > disbarring him from practice in that Court, but it may have been
>> >> > contested (I forget, but who's counting?). The actions were taken
>> >> > because of allegations of untruthful testimony under oath.
>> >> > Remember the
>> >> > well publicized argument over his statement that "there is no 
>> >> > affair",
>> >> > and his position that at the time it was made the statement was
>> >> > accurate, depending on "what the definition of IS is". Come on, ya
>> >> > gotta
>> >> > love the guy.
>> >> >
>> >> > By the way, my  old 9.9 Yamaha is runnin' like a top ( uh oh, did I
>> >> > just
>> >> > tempt the gods?).  The maintenance manual is available online from a
>> >> > number of sources.  The "Sta-bil" seems to hold it together and 87
>> >> > octane is plenty.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ben C.
>> >> >
>> >> >
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