[Rhodes22-list] Deregulation and Da List
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Tue Dec 30 10:54:22 EST 2008
Sorry Ben, but while your information may be correct, I believe your
conclusion is wrong. No one can "dominate" the list. This is not like a
conversation where only one person at a time can talk. If a person has
something to say, they can say no matter who else is "talking". The
complaints I've heard most loudly are that the messages have become
caustic (or toxic, or whatever other pejorative term one may want to
use). I have a suggestion for folks, it's a pretty old one. Treat others
the way you want to be treated. Call me a hick, racist, fool, or
whatever (in whatever couched terms or overt accusations you choose),
and I think you'll see me react. Call my beliefs, whether they my
religious beliefs, political beliefs, or just view of life in genera -
ignorant, stupid, racist, unconsidered, - again, whatever pejorative
term you decide to use, and you may find me reacting.
And, for those of you that believe you're somehow above it all because
you hide your insults carefully, sorry, it doesn't fly. An insult is an
insult, no matter how nicely one says it. Some of you that do it the
"cutest" are the worst, because you're doing it deliberately.
OK, rant off.
ben wrote:
> Just for kicks, I did a "group by sender" on my inbox for this list. I
> don't think I've deleted anything since August, and I have nothing from
> before that. I did a quick scroll to see how many messages we all send.
>
> Herb was just over 900 messages.
> Brad was somewhere in the 700s.
> Elle was next (unless I missed someone) in the mid-300s.
> Ben C. was in the 200s.
> I either forgot to look for Ed, or forgot how many messages he had.
> Everyone else that I think of as a frequent poster was around 200 or less.
>
>
> This was a real quick exercise, because my main objective was to handicap
> upcoming college bowl games, so I'm sure there's someone I missed, but I
> think the reason we might be losing people is not because of the contents of
> the posts, it's that the conversation is being dominated.
>
> By the way, happy holidays to everyone. I wish you all the best for 09.
>
>
> Ben S.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Herb Parsons
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 17:20
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Deregulation and Da List
>
> Elle,
>
> I notice that you, and a few others, when actually confronted, don't
> ante up.
>
> What did I do to "throw water on the others"? I posted a reasoned
> response to a bunch of crap about racism. They don't like it. Too bad.
> You seem to jump in there anytime someone disagrees with this same sort
> of nonsense.
>
> I'm opinionated. I don't doubt it.
> I stand by my views, except when I find their wrong for me. Then I
> change them.
>
> However, I don't resort to the silly name calling until it's thrown at
> me first
>
> And, I'm not saying for an instant that I don't "cause a problem".
> However, in this case I don't see where I did.
>
> Bill posted the link. I posted a reasoned response. You apparently,
> don't like that I did so. Too bad.
>
>
> elle wrote:
>
>> Ah, Herb,
>> Another reasoned and thoughtful response from you. You have such a way
>>
> with words that shows your nature. You make me laugh...I often have that
> reaction to .......(don't want to call you names...so fill in your own,
> folks.)
>
>> And you never cause a problem...it's always the other guy.
>>
>> Ya wanna mix it up?
>>
>> I taught second grade..I can handle you...But don't care to exert the
>>
> effort.
>
>> Read up to Michael's response a few replies above this one. Take it to
>>
> heart...everyone.
>
>> elle..
>>
>> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
>>
>> 1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06 "WaterMusic" (Lady in Red)
>>
>>
>> --- On Mon, 12/29/08, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Deregulation and Da List
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Date: Monday, December 29, 2008, 1:50 PM
>>> Elle,
>>>
>>> You know what? Kiss off. I did nothing to "throw
>>> water" on this. Some
>>> ass on here (and yes, it was ass-like behavior, if you
>>> don't like it,
>>> don't play) pulled his favorite "you're the
>>> bad guy" routine by bringing
>>> up the racism tag.
>>>
>>> I've seen a lot of BS on here the past few days,
>>> started to spout off,
>>> and then thought "nah, why bother". However, if
>>> someone DOES choose to
>>> "bother", they should expect a response.
>>> That's what "discussions" are
>>> about.
>>>
>>> For those of you that simply want a podium to espouse your
>>> views
>>> unchallenged, I submit you're in the wrong playground.
>>>
>>> I hate the thought of Rummy leaving. But he's a big
>>> boy, I suspect he
>>> knows exactly what he's doing by now. (I also suspect
>>> he's kinda feeling
>>> a little embarrassed at over-reacting, I know I would).
>>>
>>>
>>> elle wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, SH*T.
>>>>
>>>> Can't a girl have some fun (& feed her heart
>>>>
>>>>
>>> & soul) w/out the playground erupting?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Everybody..back in the pool & Herb, Bill & Ed,
>>>>
>>>>
>>> stop throwing water in everyone's faces.
>>>
>>>
>>>> And, please...let me have some fun (;^) before I have
>>>>
>>>>
>>> to come back to earth...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Love ya all...please everyone stay around....
>>>>
>>>> elle
>>>>
>>>> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we
>>>>
>>>>
>>> can adjust our sails.
>>>
>>>
>>>> 1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06 "WaterMusic"
>>>>
>>>>
>>> (Lady in Red)
>>>
>>>
>>>> --- On Mon, 12/29/08, John Lock
>>>>
>>>>
>>> <jlock at relevantarts.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Deregulation and Da
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> List
>>>
>>>
>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, "Robert
>>> Skinner" <Robert at SquirrelHaven.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Date: Monday, December 29, 2008, 12:54 PM
>>>>> At 11:31 AM 12/29/2008 -0500, Robert Skinner
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> John Lock and MJM,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As prime movers in setting up and maintaining
>>>>>> this list, you enjoy positions of authority
>>>>>> and respect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Doubtful, but thanks for the plug.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry to see you go, but you should know how this
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> list
>>>
>>>
>>>>> works by
>>>>> now. Most of the traffic is generated by a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> relative few
>>>
>>>
>>>>> self-important, dick-waving, gas bags and has
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> nothing to do
>>>
>>>
>>>>> with the
>>>>> Rhodes 22 or sailing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, we could start banning people and enforcing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> content
>>>
>>>
>>>>> rules, but
>>>>> I (for one) don't want to be in THAT hot seat.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> Mail
>>>
>>>
>>>>> filters and the
>>>>> delete key should be enough to manage the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> Nobody
>>>
>>>
>>>>> forces
>>>>> anyone to read the crap and the tools for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> bypassing it are
>>>
>>>
>>>>> simple. If you choose to support a position or
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> offer an
>>>
>>>
>>>>> opinion, you
>>>>> KNOW what will happen! It's not a surprise
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> any more!
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>
>>>>> John Lock
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
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