[Rhodes22-list] Installed new IMF Battened Main Today
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Wed Dec 31 13:37:05 EST 2008
I crew on a Hunter 360 that CAME with a tool similar to the paint stick
being discussed, except his is a thin strip of metal. I think the paint
stick idea is fine on a Rhodes 22.
Bill Effros wrote:
> Thanks, Jerry,
>
> I was sailing, too, 6 months ago, and just looking at the batten pocket
> in total frustration. I bought a sail repair tool, and learned to use
> it, so I could sew up the strap by myself--but I never got to use it.
>
> Since I had never seen the velcro strap outside the pocket I couldn't
> even get a mental picture of what I was up against. I learned in no
> time that my fingers were not long enough.
>
> I just gave up. I like the paint stirring stick a whole lot. If
> nothing else, it gives me hope. If it works, maybe I'll varnish it and
> keep it on board all the time.
>
> It is New Year's Eve, and I still believe in my heart I'll get out on
> the water early this year...
>
> Have a good one,
>
> Bill Effros
>
>
>
> cjlowe at sssnet.com wrote:
>
>> Well,Bill,this info ought to be worth every cent you paid for it.
>> I would take a coat hanger,useing the arc of the hook part,loop it into
>> the batton slot hole ,on top of the velcro strap,and back out the other
>> side of the batton slot.
>> Then,take a dull tool- screwdriver,spatula handle,anything that you can
>> stick between the hooks and the loops on the velcro to loosen up the
>> mating surfaces. Once you get an inch inside the slot loosened,take a
>> paint stiring stick ,with the sides trimmed off so it will fit snuggly
>> into the batton slot,and start pushing the stir stick up into the area
>> you already loosened,gently working back and forth,and side to
>> side,until you free up the mated velcro all the way to the top.
>> The stir stick should keep the velcro from re-attaching to each other ,as
>> you pull down on the coat hanger and remove the velcro strap. You can
>> work a pen or pencil or dowel rod in beside the coat hanger and pinching
>> the strap aginst the rod and rotating down for more leverage.
>>
>> Now comes the hard part,talking your wife into darning the hole in the
>> velcro strap.
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Jerry Lowe
>>
>> P.S.:Sorry,but six months ago I was busy sailing and didn't have time
>> for this s* it
>>
>>
>> On 12/31/2008, "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Jerry,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the info. I had the same question, and posed it to the list
>>> 6 months ago, but no one responded.
>>>
>>> I guess I should just consider myself lucky to know people are still
>>> here, and still answering sailing questions. I quickly discovered
>>> people would respond instantly to political questions.
>>>
>>> My sail arrived with no batten at all. Stan sent one this summer. The
>>> velcro strip is inside the batten pocket so securely I cannot figure out
>>> how to release it.
>>>
>>> The bottom of the velcro strip has a slit, through which I can insert
>>> the batten, however it falls right back out again through the slit.
>>>
>>> Can this marriage be saved?
>>>
>>> Bill Effros
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> cjlowe at sssnet.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pretty bold of you two starting a sailing thread on this political
>>>> list,but I'll bite.
>>>> 1.-same as Ron,but i might add ,I'm in a well protected slip.
>>>> 2.- not the same as Ron, I got the rod.The rest of this is pure
>>>> guessing,but this is what I do,YMMV.My rod has a triangle shaped plastic
>>>> piece on the end which holds the line,and the velcro strip you mentioned
>>>> in #3 has a pocket on the end.
>>>> step #1- Shove the batton into it's slot.
>>>> #2- Put the plastic end of the rod in the pocket of velcro strip and
>>>> start pushing the velcro strip up into the batton slot,making a U around
>>>> the batton with the strip and trapping the batton in the pocket,as you
>>>> push the strip all the way up.Then ,fold the sail vertically,so you can
>>>> pinch the top of the velcro strip,while pulling out the rod and line
>>>> out.It helps if you keep the line taunt during the pushing up process,it
>>>> keeps the hook and loop from mating untill it's all the way up in the
>>>> batton pocket.
>>>> #3- #2 ought to cover this.
>>>>
>>>> Jerry Lowe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/30/2008, "Ronald Lipton" <ronald.lipton at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> David,
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) I leave the batten in all the time. I furl the sail until the batten is
>>>>> about to
>>>>> enter the solt and the stop.
>>>>> 2) I didn't get the rod, but I bet that the line is used to help pull the
>>>>> batten out of the
>>>>> slot.
>>>>> 3) The velcro strip secures the batten into the slot. There should be
>>>>> matching velcro
>>>>> inside (if I remember correctly).
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 8:40 PM, David Culp <dculp at hsbtx.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I hauled the boat and lowered the mast today. Took the opportunity to
>>>>>> install my new battened, IMF main that Stan sold me. It was the first time
>>>>>> that I got to take a look at the IMF system and it was simple to take apart
>>>>>> and put back together. The only effort was stretching the luff of the sail
>>>>>> so that it would use the same screw holes that old one did and I found it
>>>>>> impossible to quite do it. Stan, you must use a block and tackle at the
>>>>>> factory to do it, either that or the battened main's luff is a little
>>>>>> shorter. Anyway, we stretched the luff as much as we could without bending
>>>>>> the grooved tube and it was perfectly smooth and tight. I reinstalled it
>>>>>> and It rolled up just fine with no wrinkles and I think it is going to be
>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It didn't come with any directions so a couple of questions for anyone who
>>>>>> has the battened IMF:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Do you leave the batten in the sail when the boat is slip or take it
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> every time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. The sail came with a short piece of batten rod with a tied line on
>>>>>> it-I
>>>>>> have an idea what it's for but am not sure since I haven't used the sail
>>>>>> yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. There is a long velcro strip attached to the batten pocket how is that
>>>>>> used with the batten is installed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks and Happy Holidays to everyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Culp
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