[Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel - some sauce to you with the bone that you threw out.

Rik Sandberg sanderico1 at gmail.com
Mon Feb 4 20:30:19 EST 2008


Ed,

Hardly a dream Ed. These are some pretty nice boats. Here's a link to 
some pictures.

http://msog.org/models/m23new/m23_thumbs.cfm

A more offshore oriented boat than an R22.

Rik

Tootle wrote:
> Chris C:
>
> Where on the internet is some accurate information or pictures of this
> Montgomery 23.  Or is it just a dream like Stan's 28?  At least with Stan's
> dream a hull exist.  I can give you the name of another company that alleged
> it was building a trailerable 28.  They were never able to fund it, so still
> build their bigger boat.
>
> Have you looked at:  http://www.etapyachting.com/index.php?pageID=50&lang=en 
> But the 28 still has only 6' 4" standing headroom.
>
> But nobody makes or designs small sailboats with your headroom.  Have you
> considered an open Viking boat?
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
>
>
>
>
> Chris Crispel wrote:
>   
>> Brad:
>>
>> I'm seriously considering a Montgomery 23, designed for the sea and 
>> transportable by trailor.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Chris
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 9:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 Evaluation
>>
>>
>>     
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> "A man got's to know his limits!"  I'd give you some advice on a sailboat
>>> that is just right for you at 6' 7" but off the top of my head I'd have
>>> to
>>> suggest something from Royal Caribbean. BTW, I don't own a Rhodes anymore
>>> but this list varies between 80% sailboat and 20% social/political
>>> commentary (or visa verse) and cyberspace gunfights.  Pick any issue you
>>> want unless it is against Stan, Rose, or Elton.  They aren't sacred
>>> either
>>> but you'll wish YOU were if you treat them with disrespect.
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>> On Feb 4, 2008 11:30 AM, Chris Crispel <ccrispel at jeffnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Dear Rhodes:
>>>>
>>>> Last Saturday, Chris Geankoplis (commonly referred to as Da Greek), 
>>>> picked
>>>> my wife and I up at our home (sold our car in anticipation of the sale
>>>> of
>>>> our home as the first step to our relocation to Panama) and drove us to
>>>> his
>>>> home in Medford (about 13 miles from Ashland) to where his wife, Alice,
>>>> and
>>>> The Boat resides.
>>>>
>>>> We had plenty of opportunity to see the great cockpit, the comfortable
>>>> coamings and storage built into it.  The area below was as clever and
>>>> unbelievable goodies found aboard a 22 ft boat.
>>>>
>>>> However, it was abundantly clear that the vessel is just to small for my
>>>> frame 6'7" and girth (these numbers will remain undisclosed).  The 
>>>> bedding
>>>> in the main cabin could me made larger to accommodate me and the pop top
>>>> could be raised another 3 inches and the seatback in the saloon could be
>>>> moved forward so that my head is not angled forward due to the ceiling 
>>>> and
>>>> the head enclosure could be modified for my long knees, the hatch would
>>>> have
>>>> to open whenever I would need to use it, etc, etc.
>>>>
>>>> In the final analysis, although a cork floats, (as does the foamed 
>>>> Rhodes)
>>>> if you were in it at sea, it may not be the most comfortable environment
>>>> in
>>>> which to experience an even short ocean passage.  The cockpit although
>>>> large
>>>> and comfortable is potentially dangerous on an ocean going boat if the 
>>>> bow
>>>> is lifted out of the water by the weight of the water in the cockpit.
>>>>  (yes,
>>>> I know that there are three drains and the foam will not let the boat
>>>> sink)
>>>> As we know all boats are a compromise and it appears that we are not
>>>> prepared to make the number and types of compromises on a boat and 
>>>> trailer
>>>> that will sell for close to $50,000.
>>>>
>>>> Chris, independent of my evaluation, seeing me in the boat and
>>>> attempting
>>>> to
>>>> move around in it, feels that the vessel is just not sized for me and,
>>>> further, it's intended use would put it out of the picture as well.
>>>>
>>>> So, there you have it.  I would like to stick aroud on the website for
>>>> awhile and enjoy all the political commentary and all the nautical talk
>>>> that
>>>> warms the cockels of my heart.
>>>>
>>>> Mucho Gracias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris C
>>>>
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