[Rhodes22-list] Marxism in USA - Big Al delete, Political

[Rik Sandberg]

Ed,

Good post.

Health care: The ridiculous price of health care in this country is a 
relatively simple problem. For a long time the insurance industry has 
been reducing personal responsibility for the cost of health care to the 
point that now for many people, there is none. Up 'til now, people have 
mostly been able to get their insurance through their work or in some 
cases the gov't and never have had to worry about or even see the cost 
of it. They go to the doctor and pay little if anything toward the 
doctors/hospital's bill. Personal responsibility has been almost 
completely erased, leading to an unending supply of "customers" with no 
monetary constraints at any clinic/hospital you go to. Because of this 
glut of "customers" the clinics/hospitals can charge whatever they like. 
Until we are to the point we are arriving at now where insurance has 
gotten so expensive that many employers and even the gov't cannot 
continue to offer it as a "free" benefit anymore. On health care, our 
lack of responsibility has made us into our own worst enemy.

The remedy for this is simple. Get rid of health insurance altogether, 
or at least, only allow high deductible major medical plans. When 
everyone has to be responsible for their own medical costs, the never 
ending stream of rich "customers" at the clinic/hospital with stubbed 
toes or a sniffle will disappear in a matter of days. When this happens, 
doctors will get hungry. To gain back "customers" again they will have 
to do their work for a price that is affordable to the average 
"customer", not the mega-rich insurance company.

The Clinton/Obama plans, or any other plan to make even more "free" 
health care available will only continue us down the same road we are 
already on. That would be the road to ruin. Let's face it, and this 
should be becoming obvious to even the dullest citizen, we can't afford 
much more "free" stuff.

The idea of personal responsibility for health care may sound hard 
hearted at first, but in the long run it is probably the only way to 
ensure that health care will ever be available for most people in the 
future.

This is basically a simple supply and demand problem.

Rik

There is no magic to Free Enterprise. It is the best way to create wealth, but it does not prevent people from making mistakes. Capitalism offers people a chance to make money. But it also offers them a chance to make fools of themselves. Free Enterprise – like the rest of life – merely permits nature to take her course.

Bill Bonner




Tootle wrote:
> Robert Skinner said:  "2. Health care - Rationalize the chaotic patchwork of
> health care in the US.  While there must be limits of what can be provided
> as the basic floor under all US citizens, it is essential that there be some
> minimum of health care for all."
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> It is basic to Marxism to use the power of government to compel people. 
> Where is it said in the American Constitution the central government is to
> impose minimum floors of health care or educational attainment, et al?
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> The neo-Marxist wants to compel minimum health care to all.  How is this
> result to be obtained?  Use the power of central government to impose their
> ethereal minimum floor.  That floor is achieved by confiscating from those
> who have attained some wealth and give it those needing that 'minimum
> floor'.  
>
> Everyone needs to understand, no matter how noble the cause, it is still
> Marxism, totalitarianism, and those who advocate it by what ever term they
> use to describe themselves, be it Progressive, Liberal, Enlightened, are
> still advocating Communism, Totalitarism!
>
> The question was posed by Bob Skinner, “Who would you have starve as you
> express your antipathy toward tax-supported social programs?”  The question
> belies the truth.  No one starves who chooses not to.  You have many
> organizations, both religious and otherwise that feed others.  Many churches
> assist with what we call soup kitchens.  Other organizations supply
> sustenance such as ‘Meals on Wheels’ .  That argument is simply an
> falsehood.
>
> And the statement was made, “Anyway, as George the second said, "The
> constitution is just a piece of paper."  Right?”  Wrong, it is a
> intellectual concept as a basis for freedom.  It is a way of for people to
> achieve their potential.  It is an economic system that has been shown to
> provide greater benefit to mankind than Marxism.  Its results speak for
> themselves.
>
> It was further stated, “As a citizen of this country, I have the right --
> and obligation -- to work toward keeping it relevant and successful in the
> here and now.  So do you.“   Yes, and I have an obligation to point out to
> others, those like you who espouse a economic system that will destroy the
> economic system that created what we now have. 
>
> I rather think that it is important to understand what Harry Jaffa pointed
> out, "Free speech is a priceless and indispensable attribute of a free
> society because it is a necessary means for deliberating upon public policy. 
> But this deliberation does not extend to everything."  ‘Free speech is not
> false when it denies the use of the liberty to those intent on destroying
> the free society.’
>
> It must be told, and told over and over, that those advocating Marxism are
> advocating the destruction of America.
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA 
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