[Rhodes22-list] The following post is Political, Religious, Educational, point of discussions, Big Al delete!

Thu Jan 10 16:21:30 EST 2008

;-)) democrat, lol.

Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:  Er, John, I'm not sure my antenna picks up the same wavelengths that yours
does but let's assume it does. We did tolerate Russian ships in the Middle
East for several years - it was called the Cold War. Remember? Exactly
what carrot do you have in mind and to whom do you want to offer it to? I
say, let women go out in public uncovered. Let women sue for sexual
harassment or at least not be stoned when they're raped. Let homosexuals be
homosexuals. Jesus, I'm sounding like a Democrat. Sorry, those ideals only
apply in our country. God forbid we shove them down other peoples throats!

Brad

On Jan 10, 2008 3:07 PM, john Belanger wrote:

> so i'm right. control. an eye for an eye. now that's going back, how far?
> and bs on the world market. our market. would we stand for russian or
> chinese ships in the straits? no way! control! as far as making iran an
> ally, what do they want? whatever it is ....we have it....control. are we
> willing to give it to them....probably not. perhaps its time for the carrot.
>
> Brad Haslett wrote: John,
>
> International law is international law. Don't get sucked in by jingoism!
> The Iranians knew exactly what they were doing was provocative. The US
> Navy
> patrols the seaways for the world market. If we quit, the Chinese will
> take
> over tomorrow. This is a small globe. How do you make Iran an ally?
> Perhaps the methods we used with Germany and Japan is the solution.
> Methinks you live in fantasy land. Israel doesn't have the luxury of
> living
> in fantasy land. They live in reality. We have a strong movement in this
> country to paint Israel as the bad guys. BS! History moves slowly
> sometimes. In the case of Israel, they had about 6000 years to figure out
> what works, and force works quite nicely, thank you. We've had 1300 years
> to figure out what works with the "Religion of Peace", and force works
> quite
> nicely, thank you. The Iranians aren't bad people, I know several. But,
> peace comes at the end of a gun barrel.
>
> You can continue to draw on your 'crack pipe' of why 'can't we just all
> get
> along' but it won't solve the problem. I'm not suggesting the Chinese
> solution to the problem (I know people in government in the China Muslim
> provinces and the reason you don't hear about their radical Muslim
> problems
> is because the bad guys are dead) but we can't be pussies either. Well, we
> can, remember 9/11?
>
> Brad
>
>
>
> On Jan 10, 2008 12:23 PM, john Belanger wrote:
>
> > the solution we seem to be going for seems to be control. i will ask the
> > obvious question: if ships of a foriegn nation were passing close to our
> > shores, would we not send someone out to see whats going on? would we
> have
> > any shortage of volunteers? think about this: make iran an ally. its
> much
> > cheaper. if iran is on our side, many problems go away. no, really,
> think
> > about it. even israel would be happy. better yet, who would be unhappy?
> > bolton?
> >
> > Brad Haslett wrote: Robert,
> >
> > The religious beliefs of the candidates are the last thing we need to
> > worry
> > about. They all have a long enough political career to judge them on
> their
> > political record. The issue in 2000 was that 43 (who apparently is
> sincere
> > in his religious beliefs) was going to impose some religious doctrine on
> > the
> > country. That didn't happen. His wife and mother disagree with him on
> his
> > views on certain issues that have a religious backdrop. He's gone in
> about
> > a year anyway. The attacks on Obama's faith will come from fellow Dems.
> I
> > hope the GOP has enough class to stay away from the issue.
> >
> > In other news that got lost in Hillary's crying, Obama's smile, and
> > Brittney's trip to the hospital, we came damn close to a shooting war
> with
> > Iran on Sunday. I'm assuming that the Bush Administration has put Iran
> on
> > notice that next time the Navy might not be so restrained. The Looney
> Left
> > is portraying this as a Gulf of Tonkin type incident. It is not! I could
> > care less whether the next President pees standing up or sitting down,
> > worships every Sunday/Saturday, or not at all. White or Black (Obama can
> > go
> > either way and chose Black) is insignificant. The real issue is : Do you
> > think there are bad people in the World and if so, what are you willing
> to
> > do about it?
> >
> > Sunday was scary! Domestic issues will seem trivial if we don't win 'The
> > Long War'. We're addicted to cheap and easy energy and that funds the
> > "Religion of Peace" fruitcakes of the world. If a candidate can solve
> that
> > riddle they get my vote, even if they're from Mars.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > On Jan 10, 2008 9:55 AM, Robert Skinner wrote:
> >
> > > Ed wrote,
> > >
> > > "which U. S. Presidential candidate is alledged [sic] ...".
> > >
> > > Alleged? Church? Guilt by association? McCarthyism?
> > >
> > > Here we go 'round again! Osama wants to take us back to
> > > 700 AD. Ed is more conservative - he only wants to take us
> > > back to the 1950s.
> > >
> > > Hell, the Shrub joined a secret death-worshipping cult when
> > > he was in college. Come to think of it, he's still a
> > > member and is leading his cronies in kill counts by a long
> > > shot.
> > >
> > > /Robert
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Tootle wrote:
> > > >
> > > > See the following web site:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.tucc.org/mission.htm
> > > >
> > > > Ask yourself, which U. S. Presidential candidate is alledged
> > > > to belong to this church?
> > > >
> > > > And it is not Mitt Romney.
> > > >
> > > > And to save Captain Rummy the effort, look at this comment:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/church.asp
> > > >
> > > > As an aside, W.E.B. DuBois held a Phd. from Harvard. However, his
> > point
> > > of
> > > > view was authoritarian elitest rather than democratic. The following
> > > > comment ought to make the neo marxist on this forum happy: In 1959,
> Du
> > > Bois
> > > > received the Lenin Peace Prize. In 1961, at the age of 93, he joined
> > the
> > > > Communist Party USA.
> > > >
> > > > Ed K
> > > > Greenville, SC, USA
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > View this message in context:
> > >
> >
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