[Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel

[Chris Crispel]

Thanks Mary Lou, this is the information I expected but did not want to hear 
since I am so enamoured with the boat.

Appreciate your data

Chris
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel


> Chris,
> The Rhodes will be really uncomfortable in big waves. It is after all
> only 22 ft and displaces only 3000 lbs. It is sturdy and will take a
> fair amount of pounding but you do have a large cockpit and a poptop
> to consider. To fully close up the boat you have to tie the poptop
> down and put in the companionway board. (The R22 has a single hinged
> board.) The R22 will be dryer than most other boats its size because
> of the flared hull. If the weather services are good enough and you
> are willing to wait for weather windows you will probably be fine.
> People have taken the R22 to the Bahamas and Dry Tortugas. The Rhodes
> will handle the occasional thunderstorm. There are a couple of
> accounts in the FAQ that might interest you.
>
> The first is an account by an admitted new sailor (at the time) and
> former R22 owner David Dawson about his high wind sail on the
> Chesapeake. Note that Chesapeake weather is not to be trifled with.
> Winds that in open water would put up manageable 4 ft waves will put
> up very steep waves with a very short period in the shallow water of the 
> Bay.
> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/dawson.html
>
> The second is the account of a capsize in a severe thunderstorm
> (microburst). It should be noted that larger boats also capsized that day.
> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/capsize.html
>
> There is also an account of a sail to the Dry Tortugas but they had
> pretty benign conditions:
> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/drytort.html
>
> Best wishes,
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22  Fretless
> Rock Hall, MD
>
>
> At 06:30 PM 1/22/2008, you wrote:
>>Yes, Robert I do understand mass in sailboats having owned about a dozen 
>>big
>>boats in my lifetime.  What I want to find out is how she sails in non
>>benign conditions, how she handles ocean swells, how dry is she, etc.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Chris
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Robert Skinner" <robert at squirrelhaven.com>
>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:06 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel
>>
>>
>> > Chris,
>> >
>> > It's sort  of like the dirt track racing adage - "There is
>> > no substitute for cubic inches."  When it comes to sailboats,
>> > there is no substitute for mass low down.  On the other hand,
>> > mass costs speed and fiberglass.
>> >
>> > The R22, like every boat, is a compromise.  She is light enough
>> > to tow, sail fast, and produce for a reasonable price - and
>> > heavy enough to be remarkably stable.  The beautifully
>> > designed hull shape, with plenty of flare and freeboard,
>> > greatly contributes to the R22's stability.
>> >
>> > That said, you need to get the feel of the boat any way you can
>> > to see if she is for you.  You will be surprised at the amount
>> > of easily useable interior space.
>> >
>> > /Robert
>> >
>> > Chris Crispel wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for the kind welcome, Robert.
>> >>
>> >> My question still stands about the boat's use for offshore sailing in
>> >> Panama.  I would certainly like to hear about the boat's behavior in
>> >> rough
>> >> conditions-anything would help
>> >>
>> >> Many Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Chris
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Robert Skinner" <robert at squirrelhaven.com>
>> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:31 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel
>> >>
>> >> > Chris - pay no attention to the needy guy in the Tootle suit.
>> >> > He has not graduated from the R22 finishing school yet, but
>> >> > we are working on him and hope to have him tuned up by 2010.
>> >> >
>> >> > In the mean time, you are welcome to hang around, ask
>> >> > questions, offer help, have a beer, and generally enjoy
>> >> > whatever company you want to keep.
>> >> >
>> >> > /Robert
>> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> > "Michael D. Weisner" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ed,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Attaboy, that ought to put a scare into him!  Ed, Mr WelcomeWagon,
>> >> >> himself!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Mike
>> >> >> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>> >> >> Nissequogue River, NY
>> >> >>
>> >> >> From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net> Tuesday, January 22, 2008 
>> >> >> 11:42
>> >> >> AM
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Chris,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Welcome to the Rhodes List.  Now, just who are you?  And where ya
>> >> >> > be?
>> >> >> > And
>> >> >> > why ya here?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Ed K
>> >> >> > Greenville, SC, USA
>> >> >> > fishin' is like a box of chocolate.. u never no what your gonna
>> >> >> > catch..
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > sometimes you catch nothing! Unattributed
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > View this message in context:
>> >> >> > http://www.nabble.com/Chris-Crispel-tp15022481p15022481.html
>> >> >> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > __________________________________________________
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>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
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>> >> > --
>> >> > Robert Skinner  "Squirrel Haven"
>> >> > Gorham, Maine         04038-1331
>> >> > s/v "Little Dipper" & "Edith P."
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>> > --
>> > Robert Skinner  "Squirrel Haven"
>> > Gorham, Maine         04038-1331
>> > s/v "Little Dipper" & "Edith P."
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