[Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel

Steven Alm stevenalm at gmail.com
Wed Jan 23 05:51:10 EST 2008


Chris,

I think it all depends on how you like to sail.  Obviously the R22 is much
more tender than a full keel boat like the Dana, Flicka, Cape Dory,
whatever, but I've been caught in high winds and have been way over-powered
and dunked my rails and shipped water into the cockpit many times.  If you
don't mind riding a spirited horse then you'll be fine.  The boat is
seaworthy as hell but in high winds, you're in for some "X sailing."  Secure
your gear and sail her like a laser.  I'm fine with that and the boat's fine
with that, but the Mrs. doesn't like it that much.  Therein lies the
question:  What does the Mrs. want?  I've finally learned to reef way the
hell in and sail upright in high winds and keep the crew happy and safe.
This is the beauty of the Rhodes IMF with furling Genny--infinite reefing
capabilities.

That said, the highest wind you can comfortably sail the R22 in is about
27.  Beyond that the hull has too much windage to tack about.  In that case
you have to jibe about, but you can still make way.  And if you're going
downwind, you'll be a happy guy!

As for toughness, the R22 has 9 stays--each with it's own chainplate.  You
could lose any two and the mast would still stand.  Ummm...probably.

You said you are enamored by the Rhodes (as well you should be) for her many
great features.  You said you want to explore the islands--with the
combination keel of the Rhodes you can easily beach your boat on those
islands.  You certainly can't do that with a full keel.

You're an experienced sailor and you know big WX can f**k you up no matter
what boat you're on.  Examine your needs and wants and ask more questions
here.

Re Panama, the San Blas are on the Caribbean side which is far more calm
than the Pacific.  I think you'd be fine with the R22.

Slim

On Jan 23, 2008 12:50 AM, john Belanger <jhnblngr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> i have to ask a question. why are you buying a boat here and taking it to
> panama? are you sailing it to panama, shipping it or driving down with it on
> a trailer?  i may have missed part of your explanation, somewhere. sorry, i
> just don't get it. are you going to be on the atlantic  or pacific side?
>
> Chris Crispel <ccrispel at jeffnet.org> wrote:  You mean like a larger,
> heavier boat with a diesel engine and prop (under
> the hull)
>
> thanks, you and others are helping me make a decision.
>
> Chris
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Just bent"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel
>
>
> >
> > Chris,
> > I have not been sailing long but I have been out in some big weather in
> my
> > R22, (on a lake) and the one thing that was a problem for me was the
> motor
> > hanging off the back of the boat. I was rolling so much the prop would
> > come
> > out of the water. I remember thinking it might be better if the prop was
> > under the boat.
> >
> > Jb
> > Just bent
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris Crispel wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Tootle:
> >>
> >> I'm here on "the list" because I have been taken with the Rhodes 22 but
> >> have
> >> a major question that needs to be put to the members of 'the list".
> >>
> >> My wife and I will be moving to the Republic of Panama to make it our
> >> future
> >> home. As you may know, there are no bays (to speak of) or lakes, just
> >> the
> >> ocean. My question is multifaceted- have any of you sailed offshore in
> >> the
> >> Rhodes?, how does she handle ocean swells, what adjustments
> >> (modifications)
> >> would you make to increase safety and comfort aboard. Yes, I do know
> >> that
> >> one can sail in a cork, but who wants to be battered about in the
> ocean.
> >>
> >> I have been sailing since the age of 16 and now I'm way, way, beyond
> >> that.
> >> I am a highly experienced sailor and my common sea sense is that this
> >> vessel
> >> is to small and subject to being tossed about like a cork. So, please
> >> tell
> >> me that I am wrong and making to much out of this.
> >>
> >> I currently reside in Ashland, Oregon and would love to meet other
> owners
> >> and their vessels. California and Oregon are the States where that
> would
> >> be
> >> possible. However, if I can't meet everyone, then I will have to be
> >> satisfied with "the list".
> >>
> >> Many Thanks
> >>
> >> Chris Crispel
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Tootle"
> >> To:
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:42 AM
> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Chris,
> >>>
> >>> Welcome to the Rhodes List. Now, just who are you? And where ya be?
> >>> And
> >>> why ya here?
> >>>
> >>> Ed K
> >>> Greenville, SC, USA
> >>> fishin' is like a box of chocolate.. u never no what your gonna
> catch..
> >>> and
> >>> sometimes you catch nothing! Unattributed
> >>>
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> >>>
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