[Rhodes22-list] motor ruminations ..... again (I know)
R22RumRunner at aol.com
R22RumRunner at aol.com
Fri Jul 4 09:18:35 EDT 2008
Another consideration with a new four stroke motor is that the break in
period is much longer than with a 2 stroke. My new Tohatsu 9.8 requires ten
minutes of idle and then no more than 1/2 throttle for the next two hours. It
allows increases in throttle with more hours and finally is considered broke in
after ten hours of this crap. I guess I have a lot of break in driving to do
before the grandsons arrive at the end of the month. I wonder how much rum I
will consume in ten hours. The manual for my 8hp Tohatsu listed the gas
consumption at full throttle as being 1 gallon per hour. The new motor has nothing
in the manual about fuel consumption.
Rummy
In a message dated 7/3/2008 9:50:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sail at tds.net
writes:
Mike,
If you do not have a motor available when you pickup your boat stan has one
that you can use on your shake down cruise. Just ask Caesar Paul.
>>ron<<
S/V Serenity
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Cheung" <mikecheung at att.net>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 5:41 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] motor ruminations ..... again (I know)
>
> Sorry to start a new thread, but the "Re: Rhodes22-list ...." tag on the
> other one was not very good indexing ...
>
> I've dug through the archives and am still conflicted about what to do
> about
> a motor ....
>
> To recap, I'm researching a motor to hang on a recycled 1993 R22. We're
> planning, at this point, to not go with the UPP but rather the 6:1 or 7:1
> manual engine lift. I would prefer to get a motor to Stan and let him do
> the install on the boat, hook it up to the electrical system, etc. Not to
> mention it would be nice if there were a motor on the boat when we picked
> it
> up so that a short test sail were more possible. We've only been looking
> at
> 4 stroke engines, mainly as a matter of preference and a sense that
> they're
> "greener".
>
> Stan recommends we get the 8 hp Yamaha (T8ELH), but the buggers are
> pricey,
> hard to find, and the dealers aren't supposed to ship them. I guess the
> dealers are actually supposed to do the installation and first start for
> warranty purposes; at least that's what one dealer told me. The T8ELH
> does
> look like a great motor. It has a gear ratio of 2.4:1 for "high power",
> the
> gear shift on the motor tiller, and a longer than usual motor tiller.
> The
> only other motor I've located with a similar arrangement for the gear
> shift
> on the motor tiller are the 8 and 9.9 hp 4 stroke Mercury engines
> (interestingly not the Bigfoot variety though). The problem with these
> (so
> far anyway) is that they don't have the high power gear ratio. Instead
> they're geared at the more common 2:1 or 2.1:1. The argument runs that
> this
> is less efficient for a slow moving boat than the high power ratio of
> 2.4:1.
> Even if the cost were not an issue, getting one to Stan by taking delivery
> of the motor, driving it to Edenton, having Stan hang it, but not start
> it,
> and then taking the boat and motor back to a Yamaha dealer to do the
> initial
> start for warranty purposes seems, frankly, nuts. The alternative of
> picking up the boat without a motor (and foregoing any test sail), then
> taking her to a Yamaha dealer for the install, first start, etc. is
> better,
> but still strikes me as sort of silly. Plus there's the worry of who did
> what wrong if the install doesn't go right. Yeah, I guess it should just
> be
> bolts, fuel, and two wire connections, but ...
>
> If one gives up the gear shift on the motor tiller, then the Tohatsu's and
> Nissan's, which have gotten some good press here, are attractive based on
> cost and weight and availability. It sounds like the internet shops will
> get one out the door real quick and ship them pretty much anywhere. So
> getting one to Stan sounds like a slam dunk. And I trust that between
> us -
> Stan, Elton, and even I are bright enough to put oil in the motor, grease
> in
> the lower unit and maybe even follow the first start / break-in
> instructions; well, I *know* Stan and Elton are. The downsides are the
> gear
> shift placement, in front which is better than on the side though not
> optimal and they are also geared at 2.1:1 so there is the "not high power"
> issue.
>
> I briefly looked at the Suzuki's - they look to have the shift in front
> and
> appear to be geared at 2.1:1, like the Tohatsu's and Nissan's. I also
> briefly looked at the Honda's and they are closer to "high power" gearing
> at
> 2.33:1, but also have their controls in the front. I haven't gotten far
> enough to make a cost/availability/crazy dealer "rules" check yet for
> them.
>
> For those with the Tohatsu's with the front gear shift: how easy is it to
> get to during motoring operations? Does the "not high power" have any
> practical limitations you've noticed?
>
> For any who have bitten the bullet and gotten the Yamaha T8ELH (or the
> T9.9ELH): how smitten are you with having the gear shift on the motor
> tiller? Has the "high power" been an advantage that you've noticed?
>
> Are there any other motors that I'm forgetting - especially 4 stroke, high
> thrust, gear shift on the motor tiller types?
>
> Thanks! Mike Cheung
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