[Rhodes22-list] Sta Bil has new product for outboards!
Arthur H. Czerwonky
czerwonky at earthlink.net
Wed Jul 16 15:21:53 EDT 2008
Mike,
Now consider this - if ethanol can be recombined with the gasoline, just shake mix the tank before each outing.
Art
-----Original Message-----
>From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>Sent: Jul 16, 2008 1:27 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sta Bil has new product for outboards!
>
>Art,
>
>I agree. I used to dispose of the 2-3 gallons of 50:1 mix (for my 2-cycle)
>left in the tank at the end of the season at the local recycler, but they no
>longer accept gasoline products. It is certainly cheaper to throw it away
>or use it as firepit starter than to attempt to preserve it, although that
>is not "green" any longer. In addition, the marketing info appears to
>indicate that marine applications require the use of a stabilizer during the
>season as well. So, get out the eyedroppers for the Sta-Bil. What would we
>use to mix the more concentrated products?
>
>Let me see, 8 oz per 80 gals, 3 gals need 0.3 oz! Using Google.com, "0.3 fl
>oz in teaspoon" yields "0.3 US fluid ounces = 1.8 US teaspoons" or in
>metric, about 9 cc (use a syringe.) Actually, that's not half bad since I
>have 10 cc syringes. 3 cc per gallon.
>
>BTW, how long is Sta-Bil good for? Do you need a stabilizer for Sta-Bil?
>It will take me years to go through the 8oz bottle.
>
>Mike
>s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>Nissequogue River, NY
>
>From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>Sent: Wednesday, July
>16, 2008 12:25 PM
>> Mike,
>> I really have to laugh - here we are in our Rhodes, sipping two-three
>> gallons per year, trying to mix Sta Bil at 8oz per 80 gallons in a 3
>> gallon tank. An eyedropper application!
>> Art
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>>>Sent: Jul 16, 2008 11:36 AM
>>>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sta Bil has new product for outboards!
>>>
>>>Art,
>>>
>>>Sta-Bil is less expensive at Defender (www.defender.com p/n:751633,
>>>$11.95,
>>>8oz=80gals.)
>>>
>>>You might also want to investigate the following:
>>> MDR E-Zorb Fuel Stabilizer #300047 16oz (320 gals) $14.71
>>>(Defender)
>>> Pri-G Gasoline Treatment #1444900 16oz (256 gals) $23.99
>>> (West
>>>Marine)
>>>
>>>The Pri-G also claims to refresh old fuel to "refinery fresh" by
>>>preventing
>>>gum and varnish formation as well as treating the phase separation noted
>>>in
>>>E-10. They claim storage capability of years
>>>(http://www.priproducts.com/prigproduct.htm .) E-Zorb claims to emulsify
>>>ethanol and water so that they may be burned. Most reviews of E-Zorb and
>>>Sta-Bil note that the fuel should be consumed within 60 days, although
>>>both
>>>are sold for "winterizing" fuel. All are compatible with 2- and 4-cycle
>>>engines.
>>>
>>>The cautions regarding the use of ethanol mixes in marine applications
>>>come
>>>down to this:
>>>
>>> 1. Ethanol is a great solvent and may dissolve old varnish and gum
>>> in
>>>the
>>> system (tank, hoses, engine, etc.) We used to call this
>>> an
>>>"engine
>>> cleaning gasoline" (remember the Mobil washing machine?)
>>>After
>>> a few tanks of E-10, your fuel system will be ethanol
>>> clean.
>>>Until then
>>> most manufacturers recommend filter changes at 10-20 hours
>>>of operation.
>>>
>>> 2. Ethanol may dissolve fuel system components such as hoses and
>>>certain
>>> poorly made fiberglass tanks. Since 1980, the USCG has
>>>required all
>>> marine components (hoses, seals, etc.) to be ethanol or
>>>alcohol compatible.
>>> If you use a plastic fuel tank all should be fine. If in
>>>doubt, buy new
>>> hoses (or tank.)
>>>
>>> 3. Ethanol mixes attract water vapor and separate from the
>>> gasoline.
>>> To remedy this, pick up the tank and mix the fuel
>>> regularly
>>>to prevent.
>>> If concerned, use one of the above stabilizers.
>>>
>>>Since most of us use our engines for infrequent short runs and keep fuel
>>>for
>>>next year, the use of a stabilizer product such as Pri-G may be the best
>>>solution.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>>Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>>
>>>From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>Sent: Wednesday, July
>>>16, 2008 10:05 AM
>>>> Thanks, Ed. This really helpful. I found it in stock, no problem, at
>>>> West. Their product# is 9240227.
>>>> Art
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>>>Sent: Jul 16, 2008 9:12 AM
>>>>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sta Bil has new product for outboards!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>See this:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.sta-bil.com/sta-bil/stabil_marine.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>They must monitor this list. Recalling some discussions in the past.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed K
>>>>>Greenville, SC, USA
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>>>>>Axis+of+Evil.jpg
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