[Rhodes22-list] re inforcing seats

Todd Tavares sprocket80 at mail.com
Thu Jul 31 13:58:04 EDT 2008


 Mike, Without looking, I think there is a bulkhead which supports the
aft end of the cockpit floor just forward of the laz forward wall  (about
42" forward of the transom).  A post or plywood support directly above
that bulkhead would be more than sufficient to handle the load.

Todd T.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Michael D. Weisner"
  To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] re inforcing seats
  Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:00:43 -0400


  Todd,

  Yes, I had thought about the problem of where to secure the aft
  support. My
  first thought is to use a 2' x 2' (or whatever fits) piece of 3/4"
  marine
  ply bonded to the inside of the laz partition to spread out the load.
  I
  already have a piece of plywood on each side to provide structure to
  secure
  my laz storage system to. A second thought would be to place a
  support
  column at the rear of the cockpit to the floor, but there is little
  or no
  support structure (in my '81) under the rear cockpit floor/gutter
  area. In
  either design, something would need to be added for support so I
  would
  rather hide it in the laz where it can also serve multiple functions.

  Mike
  s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
  Nissequogue River, NY

  From: "Todd Tavares" Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:48
  AM
  > Mike,
  >
  > Your idea sounds good but may be more complicated than you think.
  > Remember that the forward wall of the laz on most boats is just a
  > partition and not a load bearing bulkhead. Just a thought.
  >
  >
  > Todd T.
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: R22MikeW
  > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
  > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] re inforcing seats
  > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:28:09 -0700 (PDT)
  >
  >
  >
  > Todd,
  >
  > I have no doubt that Roger's solution works, although I think that
  > there
  > must be another way that is more visually appealing. Has anyone
  > attempted
  > to run a length of tubing under the raised portion of the cockpit
  > seat (the
  > edge near the middle of the cockpit) from front to back, supporting
  > the
  > tubing in the lazarrette and the companionway bulkhead? I have
  always
  > been
  > concerned by the sound emitted by the seats but never thought to
  add
  > a
  > support structure. The vertical columns that Roger added may
  > interfere with
  > access to the storage area under the seats while the front to back
  > support
  > would not.
  >
  > Just thinking out loud...
  >
  > Mike
  > s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
  > Nissequogue River, NY
  >
  >
  > Todd Tavares wrote:
  > >
  > > Mike,
  > >
  > > See
  >
  http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2003-April/007272.html
  > >
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: "Todd Tavares"
  > > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
  > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] re inforcing seats
  > > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:49:59 -0500
  > >
  > >
  > > Mike, I have a picture somewhere on my computer showing how one
  > owner
  > > reinforced his seats (Roger P). When I get home, I will post the
  > pic
  > > and
  > > if I can find the original post, I will include a link. Todd T.
  > >
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: "Mike Cheung"
  > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
  > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] re inforcing seats -- was -- Re: Lake
  > Erie;
  > > was placing Genoa
  > > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:26:29 -0700 (PDT)
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > Rick,
  > >
  > > Just what did you do to reinforce your seats?
  > >
  > > Mike C. s/v Muireann '93/'04/'08 R22
  > >
  > > (List .... sorry to resurrect such an old thread! Mike)
  > >
  > >
  > > Rick Lange-2 wrote:
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > Hi John,
  > > > Don't believe everything you hear. I grew up in Pgh
  > > > and compared to river sailing and the dinky lakes in Western
  Pa.,
  > > Lake
  > > > Erie is 1000% more fun.
  > > > Today, winds were out of the west at 15 kn
  > > > midday after a calm night. The waves only built to 1 ft by the
  > time
  > > we
  > > > sailed 10 kmi north into the lake from Cleveland at hull spped.
  > > When I
  > > > wanted to turn back, my companion almost mutinied because he
  > didn't
  > > want
  > > > it to end. (He's used to sailing on a puddle called Lake
  > > > Hartwell.)
  > > > Of course, conditions are much more variable on Erie in
  > > > terms of when and where you sail. Waves are often choppy, but
  the
  > > flaired
  > > > hull of the R22 is great for keeping the cockpit dry. The
  > downside
  > > of the
  > > > hull design is it makes it hard to tack when blowing over 25
  kn.
  > > > I
  > > > can have a good time with waves up to 5 ft and winds to 30 kn.
  > > However,
  > > > my bench seats have been reinforced to minimize big wave
  flexing
  > > that
  > > > cracks the gelcoat.
  > > > As a beginner, pick a day when the wind is
  > > > blowing steady 10 kn or more from the south. You'll have smooth
  > > sailing
  > > > and an opportunity to try every maneauver you can think of,
  > > including
  > > > man-overboard drills.
  > > > Rick
  > > >
  > > >
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