[Rhodes22-list] See with a little work we can reach common ground

Brad Haslett flybrad at gmail.com
Wed Jun 18 21:54:41 EDT 2008


John,

Wouldn't want to rain on your pity party with a boring story about some
construction worker with an eighth grade education who's kids all did pretty
well for themselves through hard work, including one who paid for his own
flying lessons and college education.

The irony of your assessment is that the countries you mention, especially
the Soviet Union and China, have abandoned the very form of government you
advocate in favor of capitalism because it has raised the standard of living
of its citizens. Been to a factory in China lately?  The workers there might
take offense to being called slaves.

As to the rest of  your "history lesson", I'll ask my "chink" wife (your
term) and see if it agrees with her experience.

Brad

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:49 PM, John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net> wrote:

>
> Brad,
>
>     I like beer too !
>
> As for the rest
>
>
> Neither of these guys are the 'sharpest knives in the drawer'.  If McCain
> had a clue he would have explained to his torturers, "look guys, life for
> your friends the Chinese really sucks right now.  They've shut down all the
> universities and smart kids your age are out in rice paddies picking
> leeches
> off their legs.  Eventually the Chinese will quit this silly nonsense and
> start building toasters for WalMart and you guys will be stuck making
> underwear.  In the meantime, Uncle Ho and his buddies will kill 3 million
> of
> your countrymen and another million will head to sea and eventually in up
> in
> the US and buy of hotels and convenience stores and stuff. I apologize for
> President Truman ignoring Uncle Ho's request for assistance back in the
> late
> 40's, but the French needed their asses pulled out of the fire again (I
> know, you'd think saving them from the Nazi's would have been enough but
> then we had to save them from the Communists). Why don't you guys put down
> the sticks and let me explain a little capitalism and econ101 to you".
>
> Unless my knowledge is faulty I believe the backer of the North Vietnamese
> was the old Soviet Union and not the Chinese who were busy carrying out
> there "cultural revolution" of Mao and trying to produce iron in peasants
> backyards. We ignored Ho's requests because french plantation owners'
> didn't
> want to lose access to their slave labor force and we were backing DeGaulle
> and any petty thug or warlord that promised to fight the Red Menace
> (remember the Shaw of Iran and his secret police). After we left China and
> Nam fought a conventional boarder war around 1980 (not totally sure of the
> date sorry) which Nam won or now it would be a Chinese provence.
>
> That assumes of course that McCain understands economics himself which by
> his own admission, isn't his strong suit. That said, I'll take someone with
> a weak foundation in capitalism over someone who understands Marxist theory
> all too well.
>
> I am terrified with the thought of a POTUS with a weak foundation of
> capitalism. The U.S. had pretty much unrestrained capitalism from its
> formation to 1932 and what was the result? 60 hr work weeks,
> sweatshops, sharecropping, child labor, no safety standards, the company
> store. Unrestrained capitalism is why I now have federal mine subsidence
> insurance the superfund to clean up toxic waste dumps and its my money that
> is paying for this while the offspring of the Slimeballs who did this live
> in the Hamptons and vacation in the Bahamas.  I never met either of my
> grandfathers. both died in their 40s' form overwork in the mills that made
> the money to build Carnegie Hall. But I did see the medallion that one of
> them left behind that was given to him for 30 years of service, stamped out
> of stainless steel they were to cheap to use silver. My grandmother told me
> when she was young she remembers company goons kicking the door in on
> random
> searches the company carried out to make sure no employees were stealing. 4
> generations of people in the Pgh. area busted their butts and fought in 2
> world wars to create the capital that then turned its back to the city and
> found fresh slaves in Mexico and China. I'll take my chance on the
> Obamination as you would call him because I've seen the results of
> capitalism and unless you happen to be fortunate enough to be born into the
> upper classes you're pretty much screwed. Please don't bother to reply with
> any rags to riches bullshit stories, for every one cited  I could recite
> 1000 others who worked just as hard and got nowhere for their efforts.
> There
> was a man named Hall who worked for Westinghouse in the late 50's or early
> 60's who invented the process for making artificial diamonds, for his
> discovery the company in is overwhelming gratitude awarded him a $25
> savings
> bond. Wonder how much they made on that since then?
>
> But I do like beer especially Pa. beer (I buy local and don't shop at
> Chink-mart either)
>
> Keep em coming
> John Shulick
>
>         "Resistance is futile you will be assimilated" The Borg.
>
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