[Rhodes22-list] First Time Out Michae T. a reply

Tootle ekroposki at charter.net
Mon Jun 30 06:54:45 EDT 2008


Michael:

In an emergency a Genoa/Gib can be manually wrapped just by turning it back
onto the furler.  Then use a short piece of line to tie it off so that it
does not come undone.  Since you were up there already, that would have
allowed you to control the sail.  Went thru this once with a CDI furler that
had lost a retaining pin in the take up reel.  Easily fixed when no wind is
blowing.  Save Rik's suggestions and take to boat with you.

A boat always should have sevel lines available of various lengths for such
situations.

Where are you in Barneget Bay?  I expect to be on Long Beach Island on
Wednesday for a few hours.  I will not have computer access.

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA





Rik Sandberg-2 wrote:
> 
> Michael,
> 
> Sounds like your furling line was wrapped backwards. Take it off the 
> drum the rest of the way and wind it on the other way around.
> 
> Actually, it sound like you will have to take the last couple wraps off 
> the drum, roll up the sail by hand, then tie the furling line back on 
> the drum the right way.
> 
> As you unfurl (pull the jib out) the furling line should be winding up 
> on the drum.
> 
> When the jib is rolled up all the way , there should still be a couple 
> or three turns of line on the furler drum. You pull the jib out (pull 
> the sheets) the drum fills up. Furl (pull the furling line) the jib and 
> the drum empties.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Rik
> 
> Ayn Rand was a prophet - - it isn't my fault
> 
> 
> 
> Brad Haslett wrote:
>> Michael,
>>
>> First, I am not a sailor, I am a sailboat owner.  Rummy and Wally and a
>> gazillion others can answer your questions as sailors better, but,
>> mechanical problems with mechanical devices are the given.  Without
>> getting
>> into the specific mechanical issues of your problems, the first thing you
>> need to learn is how to eliminate that "big ass wing" in the breeze when
>> all
>> you want to do is just want to motor home. Read enough sailing books and
>> you'll hear a tale or two about who was running the boat - nature or me.
>> Chalk your experience up to "learning" and some old heads on the list
>> will
>> decipher your specific mechanical and sail plan issues.  Anytime you
>> learn a
>> new skill it is intimidating in the initial phases, otherwise it wouldn't
>> be
>> worth learning!
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:08 PM, MichaelT <mticse at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> After working on the boat for the past several weeks and taking down the
>>> mast for the 1st time to add a new pop-top slider, windex and pre-wiring
>>> for
>>> a vhf I was finally set to go. Replaced my first impeller on the 20 year
>>> old
>>> yamaha 8hp, hiking stick w/ coaming box, all the wiring/lights tested
>>> and
>>> operable as the former owner never had a battery installed. And a solar
>>> panel from GB to boot.
>>>
>>> So I went out for the first time for the season yesterday this being my
>>> first boat, first season. Everything was going swell. Wind was 5-10 mph.
>>> 2
>>> hours later the wind picked up a notch and still all was well. When it
>>> was
>>> time to go home, we lost our bearing and realized we were downwind and
>>> started to beat the wind. The boat started to heel and heel a lot. So
>>> much
>>> we the jib started touching the water and scooping water from the
>>> gunnels.
>>>
>>> The wind picked up even more and this when the problem started. I
>>> decided
>>> that it would be best to take down the sails and just motor in. We tried
>>> to
>>> head the boat into the wind and couldn't. Boat still heeling. We let out
>>> the
>>> sheets to steady the boat. Tried to furl the jib in. Furling jib is
>>> stuck.What to do? While the boat was heeling, wind is now 20+, I go
>>> forward
>>> to check the furling unit and noticed that there was hardly any line in
>>> the
>>> spool. I had to hand wind the sail itself and was able to roll in about
>>> 2/3's of the jib. The 3rd still flapping. I grabbed the boom, lifted the
>>> topping lift, released the outhaul which just flew away and pulled hard
>>> on
>>> the main sail furling line and thank goodness the main sail furled in.
>>> Motor
>>> down, motor started and we now were heading into the wind motoring, the
>>> jib
>>> still flapping. I noticed that my mast stay turnbuckles on the starboard
>>> side was being turned loose from the flapping jib. Turnbuckles was
>>> reinstalled w/o cotter pins by our marina guy. Which way to tighen?
>>> Counter
>>> clockwise ok. Settled down the jib on the mast stays. Swells were
>>> building
>>> up and we would hear the motor wining when it caught air.
>>>
>>> As we started heading into our channel at Cedar Creek, our point of sail
>>> was
>>> now a beam reach and the 1/3 of our jib sail started to heel us over and
>>> now
>>> the motor was all air wining. Placed the motor in neutral while we
>>> sailed
>>> and instructed my partner to throttle the motor when the boat flattened.
>>> We
>>> finally made it into our marina, in our slip without fanfare as the
>>> marina
>>> was sheltered form the winds in the Barnegat. It started raining cats
>>> and
>>> dogs the moment we were gathering our things to pack up. Secured the
>>> dock
>>> lines, lifted the motor and rudder off the water. We just left the boat
>>> amd
>>> went home.
>>>
>>> What do I do now? I might have broken the furling jib when I physicaly
>>> hand
>>> wound the whole unit. Where do I even start to figure out why there
>>> wasn't
>>> any line in the spool. Is it possible when the mast was taken down that
>>> it
>>> may have gotten unwound? How do i get the furling jib back in order?
>>> Other
>>> questions linger...Why couldn't we head into the wind? Center board was
>>> down. We're we just having fun heeling and seeing the jib touch water or
>>> were we already in danger?
>>>
>>> Thanks for listening and appreciate your input...
>>>
>>> Michael
>>> Rhodes 87', Silverside
>>>
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