[Rhodes22-list] Catastrophe or a disaster?

[Hank]

OK, I now have 5 copies of Pete's email.  Whose server is hung up?

Hank

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 5:19 PM, petelargo <petelauritzen at earthlink.net>
wrote:

>
> No worries. I was actually kidding. I got a thick skin and I heard you are
> a
> relatively nice guy.
>
>
> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
> >
> > Pete,
> >
> > A bit testy are we?  My observation was directed at Rob's comment about
> W
> > having "avoided the Vietnam War" not yours.  Relax, if you want some
> > lessons
> > on how to have a real cat fight, search the archives for some of the
> > debates
> > between Bill Effros and myself. Bill is a real pro and doesn't think
> every
> > comment is directed at him personally. A lot of folks don't like being
> > strapped to an "F-thing" and who can blame them.  The death rate in that
> > contraption was higher than serving in Vietnam, and their mission was to
> > patrol the southern border against Cuban based Soviet aircraft.  The
> F-102
> > also served in Vietnam with several National Guard pilot losses. Exactly
> > what did Bill Clinton do during Vietnam? As to your agenda?  Frankly my
> > dear.........
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:11 AM, petelargo <petelauritzen at earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Don't you think it is just a little presumptuous and dismissive to
> >> declare
> >> what you think my "agenda" is when you don't know one thing about me?
> And
> >> as
> >> regards your imagery of being strapped to your 'F-thing' while at full
> >> thrust, you will have to find someone else as I don't swing that way.
> >> (not
> >> that there is anything wrong with that).
> >>
> >>
> >> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Herb,
> >> >
> >> > You're wasting your time.  These rants are from people with a whole
> >> > different agenda.  But just for shits and grins, I'd like to strap
> >> their
> >> > ass
> >> > to an F-102 for one ride and see if they still want to run their
> mouth
> >> > about
> >> > "avoiding Vietnam" again.
> >> >
> >> > Brad
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Mymymy, aren't we glad you don't write the history books. Soooo much
> >> >> spin, garbage, and nonsense, one hardly knows where to begin.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Rob Lowe wrote:
> >> >> > Oh, I don't know.  It's an interesting question, but I agree it
> has
> >> >> nothing
> >> >> > to do with discussing the current candidates and should be
> debating
> >> on
> >> >> it's
> >> >> > own merits.  Pete, which is worse, a catastrophe or a disaster?  I
> >> am
> >> >> > undecided how W's administration will be remembered too, between
> >> those
> >> >> two
> >> >> > choices that is.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In some ways, you got to feel sorry for W.  He grew up in the
> shadow
> >> of
> >> >> his
> >> >> > very famous and successful father.  Although I didn't care much
> for
> >> >> George
> >> >> > H.W., I have to admire him for his accomplishments and his
> success.
> >> >> H.W
> >> >> .
> >> >> > was a successful collage baseball player, war hero, business man,
> a
> >> >> pretty
> >> >> > good politician, and put together a coalition to drive the Iraqis
> >> out
> >> >> of
> >> >> > Kuwait.  W. on the other hand was a C student, avoided the Vietnam
> >> War,
> >> >> > failed in business until his daddy's rich friends bought his
> >> businesses
> >> >> at
> >> >> > inflated prices, choose partisanship over accomplishments in
> >> politics
> >> >> > (although I have to argue Cheney is the force behind most of
> that),
> >> and
> >> >> got
> >> >> > into two wars that he can't win.  And bin Laden is still on the
> >> loose.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > W.'s pretty much shot Jeb's chance at the White House, and it
> wasn't
> >> >> > supposed to be that way.  Jeb is the favorite son and was being
> >> groomed
> >> >> for
> >> >> > the White House.  But W, looking for daddy's approval, decided to
> >> run
> >> >> for
> >> >> > the White House and won.  Well, he didn't win it, the Supreme
> Court
> >> >> gave
> >> >> it
> >> >> > to him.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Yes, history will be the judge of W's legacy.  But this is the
> same
> >> guy
> >> >> > trying to spin his own legacy.  This is the guy who has compared
> >> >> himself
> >> >> to
> >> >> > both George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.  You sure don't see
> >> anyone
> >> >> else
> >> >> > comparing W. to Washington or Lincoln, not even his most ardent
> >> >> supporters.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So, catastrophe or disaster?  Worse president in American history?
> >> >> Only
> >> >> > time will tell.  - rob
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> > From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> >> >> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> >> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:43 AM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Say What, Barack?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Huh???? How is discussing whether "the bush presidency will be
> >> >> evtually
> >> >> >> considered a catastrophe or a disaster" more a substantiative
> >> >> political
> >> >> >> critique than discussing the current candidates? The Bush
> >> presidency
> >> >> is
> >> >> >> just about over, and virtually nothing can be done to change his
> >> >> course.
> >> >> >> History has shown that the great presidencies were typically not
> >> >> >> recognized as such until LONG after they're over. In reality,
> that
> >> >> >> discussion would be virtually empty of substance were it to be
> held
> >> >> now.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> For a more substantiative political critique I suggest the
> >> discussion
> >> >> of
> >> >> >>> whether the bush presidency will be eventually considered a
> >> >> catastrophe
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> > or a
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>> disaster. I am undecided, but willing to hear arguments on both
> >> >> sides.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Pete Hussein Lauritzen
> >> >> >>> Key Largo
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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> >> >> >
> >> >>
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> >> >> S/V Reve de Pappa - Coronado 35
> >> >>
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