[Rhodes22-list] Hank's Catastrophe

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Hank,

I got five copies also, but going to the thread there are only two?

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA


petelargo wrote:
> 
> No worries. I was actually kidding. I got a thick skin and I heard you are
> a relatively nice guy.  
> 
> 
> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>> 
>> Pete,
>> 
>> A bit testy are we?  My observation was directed at Rob's comment about W
>> having "avoided the Vietnam War" not yours.  Relax, if you want some
>> lessons
>> on how to have a real cat fight, search the archives for some of the
>> debates
>> between Bill Effros and myself. Bill is a real pro and doesn't think
>> every
>> comment is directed at him personally. A lot of folks don't like being
>> strapped to an "F-thing" and who can blame them.  The death rate in that
>> contraption was higher than serving in Vietnam, and their mission was to
>> patrol the southern border against Cuban based Soviet aircraft.  The
>> F-102
>> also served in Vietnam with several National Guard pilot losses. Exactly
>> what did Bill Clinton do during Vietnam? As to your agenda?  Frankly my
>> dear.........
>> 
>> Brad
>> 
>> On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:11 AM, petelargo <petelauritzen at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> Don't you think it is just a little presumptuous and dismissive to
>>> declare
>>> what you think my "agenda" is when you don't know one thing about me?
>>> And
>>> as
>>> regards your imagery of being strapped to your 'F-thing' while at full
>>> thrust, you will have to find someone else as I don't swing that way.
>>> (not
>>> that there is anything wrong with that).
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Herb,
>>> >
>>> > You're wasting your time.  These rants are from people with a whole
>>> > different agenda.  But just for shits and grins, I'd like to strap
>>> their
>>> > ass
>>> > to an F-102 for one ride and see if they still want to run their mouth
>>> > about
>>> > "avoiding Vietnam" again.
>>> >
>>> > Brad
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Mymymy, aren't we glad you don't write the history books. Soooo much
>>> >> spin, garbage, and nonsense, one hardly knows where to begin.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Rob Lowe wrote:
>>> >> > Oh, I don't know.  It's an interesting question, but I agree it has
>>> >> nothing
>>> >> > to do with discussing the current candidates and should be debating
>>> on
>>> >> it's
>>> >> > own merits.  Pete, which is worse, a catastrophe or a disaster?  I
>>> am
>>> >> > undecided how W's administration will be remembered too, between
>>> those
>>> >> two
>>> >> > choices that is.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > In some ways, you got to feel sorry for W.  He grew up in the
>>> shadow
>>> of
>>> >> his
>>> >> > very famous and successful father.  Although I didn't care much for
>>> >> George
>>> >> > H.W., I have to admire him for his accomplishments and his success.
>>> >> H.W
>>> >> .
>>> >> > was a successful collage baseball player, war hero, business man, a
>>> >> pretty
>>> >> > good politician, and put together a coalition to drive the Iraqis
>>> out
>>> >> of
>>> >> > Kuwait.  W. on the other hand was a C student, avoided the Vietnam
>>> War,
>>> >> > failed in business until his daddy's rich friends bought his
>>> businesses
>>> >> at
>>> >> > inflated prices, choose partisanship over accomplishments in
>>> politics
>>> >> > (although I have to argue Cheney is the force behind most of that),
>>> and
>>> >> got
>>> >> > into two wars that he can't win.  And bin Laden is still on the
>>> loose.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > W.'s pretty much shot Jeb's chance at the White House, and it
>>> wasn't
>>> >> > supposed to be that way.  Jeb is the favorite son and was being
>>> groomed
>>> >> for
>>> >> > the White House.  But W, looking for daddy's approval, decided to
>>> run
>>> >> for
>>> >> > the White House and won.  Well, he didn't win it, the Supreme Court
>>> >> gave
>>> >> it
>>> >> > to him.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Yes, history will be the judge of W's legacy.  But this is the same
>>> guy
>>> >> > trying to spin his own legacy.  This is the guy who has compared
>>> >> himself
>>> >> to
>>> >> > both George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.  You sure don't see
>>> anyone
>>> >> else
>>> >> > comparing W. to Washington or Lincoln, not even his most ardent
>>> >> supporters.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > So, catastrophe or disaster?  Worse president in American history?
>>> >> Only
>>> >> > time will tell.  - rob
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> > From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>> >> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> >> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:43 AM
>>> >> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Say What, Barack?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Huh???? How is discussing whether "the bush presidency will be
>>> >> evtually
>>> >> >> considered a catastrophe or a disaster" more a substantiative
>>> >> political
>>> >> >> critique than discussing the current candidates? The Bush
>>> presidency
>>> >> is
>>> >> >> just about over, and virtually nothing can be done to change his
>>> >> course.
>>> >> >> History has shown that the great presidencies were typically not
>>> >> >> recognized as such until LONG after they're over. In reality, that
>>> >> >> discussion would be virtually empty of substance were it to be
>>> held
>>> >> now.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> For a more substantiative political critique I suggest the
>>> discussion
>>> >> of
>>> >> >>> whether the bush presidency will be eventually considered a
>>> >> catastrophe
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> > or a
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>> disaster. I am undecided, but willing to hear arguments on both
>>> >> sides.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Pete Hussein Lauritzen
>>> >> >>> Key Largo
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
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