[Rhodes22-list] This day in history

R22RumRunner at aol.com R22RumRunner at aol.com
Sat May 3 14:03:49 EDT 2008


Elle,
Lighten up girl. Sounds to me like you could use a couple of my rum and  
cokes. Besides, it's Saturday and everybody knows that means more free time for  
drinking and sailing.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 5/3/2008 11:49:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
watermusic38 at yahoo.com writes:

Herb,
>I pretty regularly see all sort of rudeness on  here, and of late, it seems t
hat those of a >certain political persuasion  are the ones that are asked to 
turn peacemakers.

Yes, that appears to be true....but someone has to be first to stop....and  
there's a lot to be said for the reasoned individual who sees the need to put  
an end to the discussion.  

It's  hard....everyone wants to have the last word...(don't I  know...;^)

elle




Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
I do  hope you'll allow me to respectfully disagree with your 
vision/view. I  pretty regularly see all sort of rudeness on here, and of 
late, it seems  that those of a certain political persuasion are the ones 
that are asked  to turn peacemakers.

In this case, the discussion never hit the  "information" point, and 
while I agree that I won't likely change anyone's  mind about the main 
topic (c'mon, few, if any, of these discussions ever  do that), I would 
like to think that there might be at least one or two  folks out there 
that read the discussions and think "Maybe calling ANYONE  I don't know a 
'dumb son of a bitch" is a bit over the  line".


elle wrote:
> Herb,
> 
> What I meant is  that the discussion is past the 'information' point. You 
are not changing  anyone's mind & they are not going to change yours. 
> 
> So  any more discussion is a waste of time since y'all will just continue 
to  argue..
> 
> I enjoy these discussions (usually) because of the  divergent points of 
view and the (usually) intelligent discourse. But this  discussion is past that 
point.
> 
> I don't know you, have never  seen you, but what I see in my mind is you 
holding one of the other Rhodies  who disagrees with you up against a wall with 
your arm against his throat. I  don't believe this is a true depiction of you 
but that is the image this  discussion has presented.
> 
> Perhaps we forget to remember that  we are Rhodies-compatriots first; these 
discussions just fill in the blanks  until we can all get back on the water.
> 
>  'Pace,'...please.
> 
> elle
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Herb Parsons wrote:
> You know elle, I'm convinced  that one of the current ills of society are 
> because no one has the  guts to say something that's "against the 
> majority". I'd say that  this list is pretty much left-leaning.
>
> Rummy calls the  president "dumb", and a "son of a bitch", and that's OK.
>
> I  call him on it, and I should "give it a rest"
>
> Ed is regularly  called all sorts of rude names on here, and that's cool 
> (because so  many think he's rude)
>
> I see a rude statement about the  President, and give back what he's 
> giving, and I'm  chastised.
>
> A certain unnamed user cries foul for being accused  of promoting 
> socialist programs, when he talks about supporting  socialist programs, 
> and we are asked to not do that anymore, since he  obviously finds it 
> offensive (which, btw, I've done to this  point),
>
> But then that same user regularly gets on her and  makes snide comments 
> about me, and often to me, and it's  ignored.
>
> Frankly, I think a bunch of you guys are hypocrites.  But that's OK, it 
> still makes for interesting  reading.
>
> I'm anxious to see if/when one of the lefties on say  "Hey, that's a 
> little over the top" when someone accuses a Harvard  MBA and two term 
> president of being a "dumb son of a  bitch".
>
> When I DON'T see that happen, I'm going to guess it's  OK to determine 
> that it probably came from some ignorant hick,  especially when it goes 
> largely unsubstantiated beyond "becuase I  said so".
>
>
> elle wrote:
> 
>> Do ya think  ya can give it a rest?
>>
>>  'Nytol...'
>>
>> elle
>> --- Herb Parsons  wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>>> I'm sure that the  quantity has ensured that. Betcha
>>> that the President  
>>> could say the same.
>>>
>>> But you  didn't answer either question, you simply
>>> side-stepped  them.
>>>
>>> Would insulting your mother break those  rules that
>>> you talk about?
>>> Where does one draw  the line?
>>> If I say there's no doubt in my mind that  President
>>> Bush, who was smart 
>>> enough to get a  Masters from Harvard, is smarter
>>> than you - HAVE I  
>>> insulted you, and does that break  protocol?
>>>
>>> I suspect it's much easier to talk  about the "dumb"
>>> "son of a bitch" 
>>> than it is  to actually show how you're better.
>>>
>>>  R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>> Herb,
>>>> I've been insulted by better  people than you. Keep
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>  trying as you will, this 
>>>
>>> 
>>>>  president is a joke.
>>>>
>>>>  Rummy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message  dated 5/2/2008 10:06:25 P.M. Eastern
>>>>
>>>>  
>>> Daylight Time, 
>>>
>>>  
>>>> hparsons at parsonsys.com  writes:
>>>>
>>>> As I mentioned to another  member, does that mean
>>>>
>>>>  
>>> insulting your mother 
>>>
>>>  
>>>> is OK as well? Where do you draw the line  Rummy?
>>>>
>>>> 
>>> And, if I say  there's 
>>>
>>> 
>>>> no doubt in my  mind that that President George W
>>>>
>>>>  
>>> Bush, who was "smart 
>>>
>>>  
>>>> enough" to get a Masters in  Business
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>  Administration from Harvard 
>>>
>>>  
>>>> Business school, is undoubtedly smarter than  you,
>>>>
>>>> 
>>> does that mean  I've 
>>>
>>> 
>>>> broken protocol by  insulting you?
>>>>
>>>> Oh well, too  bad.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  R22RumRunner at aol.com  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>> Herb,
>>>>> The last time I  checked, Bush was not a member  of
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>> this list,  so calling 
>>>
>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>> him  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>> a son of a bitch is  acceptable.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Rummy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  In a message dated 5/2/2008 4:15:44 P.M.  Eastern
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>  Daylight Time, 
>>>
>>> 
>>>>>  hparsons at parsonsys.com writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>  OK folks.Where the admonitions about  "personal
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>  attacks." Some idiot gets 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>> on here and calls the President of the Nation  a
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>> "son of a  bitch", and 
>>>
>>> 
>>>>> that's  OK. However, calling Robert a  loser
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>> because  of his pathetic 
>>>
>>> 
>>>>>  Bush-hating nonsense is somehow bad bad  stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  R22RumRunner at aol.com  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>>  Rob,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not true. Many of  us have questioned his
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>> military service, but have 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>> never  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>> been given the straight answers. It seems that  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>  privileged children live 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>> privileged lives, even in the military.  Since
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>  it's already Friday and I 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>> have a ton  
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>> of yard wok to do this weekend and won't  be
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>  actively on the list, I will 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>> leave  
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>> with this parting comment. Our current  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>  president is the dumbest son of a 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>> bitch that's ever taken the oath of  office.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>> History will back me up on 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>  this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>>  Rummy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  In a message dated 5/2/2008 2:44:43  P.M.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>  Eastern Daylight Time, 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>> rlowe at vt.edu  
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>>  writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody  questioned his service,  Herb.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original  Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Herb Parsons"  
>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>  
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:34  AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] This day in  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>  history
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> And, I'll add, bitch all you want to  about
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>> his politics. When you 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>  insult
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>>> his service, you're being a jerk. THAT  was
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>> what was pathetic.
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>> Brad Haslett  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  Rob,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Herb's a big boy and can defend himself,  so
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> I'll let him. I too 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>  feel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  his
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> frustrations at times though. The  carrier
>>>>>>>> 
>>> landing was a  celebration 
>>>
>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>  for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> men and women who had been at sea for a  good
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> long while in support of
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Iraqi liberation. They were honored to  have 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> been visited by their
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  Commander
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> in Chief and it showed on their faces.  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> President Bush didn't
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  immediately
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> rush for the Admiral's quarters, he spent  a 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> lot of time with the
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  'grunts'
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> taking photos, hugging them, etc. It  was
>>>>>>>> 
>>> obvious they loved  having 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>  him
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> aboard and watching it live made me proud  to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> be an American. Was it 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>  a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>>>> political event as well? Everything a  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> politician does is a  political
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Today's newspaper is the first draft  of
>>>>>>>> 
>>> history and often  wrong in 
>>>
>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>  the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> reporting and analysis. Go read a  newspaper
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> from 1948 to 1952 and 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>  see
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  how
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> popular Truman was at the time. Some  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> people are so jaded by their 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>  BDS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  (Bush
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Derangement Syndrome) that they can't  see
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> anything positive in 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>  anything.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  You
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> are probably a classic case. Bush's  term
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> is almost over and it might 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>  be
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> time for everyone to move on to  tomorrow's  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> problems.
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Let me say this - when I think critics  are
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> taking delight in the
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  difficulty
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> and losses our military is  encountering
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> because it suits their 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>  political
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> slant, it pisses me off to no end.  Frankly,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> I don't think we should 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>  have
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>>>> engaged in 2/3rds of the deployments we  did
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> under Clinton, and I 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>  didn't
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> still don't like the Clintons. That  said,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> I want to see any 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>  engagement
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>>>> where we put our troops in harm's way to  go 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> well regardless of how I 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>  may
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> personally feel about the commander.  My
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> guess is, Herb gets upset 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>  for
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> same reasons I do. Bitch about Bush is  you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> want, it's a free 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>  country.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  The
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> men and women on that boat that day  risked  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>> their lives so you can do 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>  so.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  Brad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>  __________________________________________________
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>> www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>  __________________________________________________
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>  www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  **************Wondering what's for  Dinner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>> Tonight? Get new twists on 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>> family  
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>> favorites at AOL Food.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>  (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)
>>
>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>  __________________________________________________
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>  www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>  __________________________________________________
>>>
>>>  
>>>>> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?  
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>  www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> **************Wondering  what's for Dinner
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>> Tonight? Get new twists on 
>>>
>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>> family  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>> favorites at AOL Food.  
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>  (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)
>>
>>  
>>>  __________________________________________________
>>>
>>>  
>>>>> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?  
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>  www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>
>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>  __________________________________________________
>>>> Use  Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>> www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>
>>>  
>>>>
>>>> **************Wondering what's for  Dinner Tonight?
>>>>
>>>> 
>>> Get  new twists on family 
>>>
>>> 
>>>>  favorites at AOL Food.  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>  (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)
>>
>>  
>>>>  __________________________________________________
>>>> Use  Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
>>>>
>>>>  
>>> www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>
>>>  
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>  __________________________________________________
>>> Use  Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
>>>  www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our  sails.
>>
>> 1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06 "WaterMusic" (Lady in  Red)
>>
>>
>>  
____________________________________________________________________________________
>>  Be a better friend, newshound, and 
>> know-it-all with Yahoo!  Mobile. Try it now.  
http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
>>  __________________________________________________
>> Use  Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?  www.rhodes22.org/list
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
> __________________________________________________
> Use  Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?  www.rhodes22.org/list
>
>
>
> We can't change the  angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
>
> 1992 Rhodes  22 Recyc '06 "WaterMusic" (Lady in Red)
> 
>  ---------------------------------
> Be a better friend, newshound, and  know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it 
now.
>  __________________________________________________
> Use  Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?  www.rhodes22.org/list
>
>
>
>  
__________________________________________________
Use  Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list



We  can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.

1992  Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in  Red)

---------------------------------
Be  a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  Try it  
now.
__________________________________________________
Use  Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?  www.rhodes22.org/list





**************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family 
favorites at AOL Food.      
(http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)


More information about the Rhodes22-list mailing list