[Rhodes22-list] The end of the Rove era -- Political

David Bradley dwbrad at gmail.com
Tue Nov 4 13:53:45 EST 2008


Brad, what the @#$% are you talking about?  Herb asked what "the left"
thought would happen if Obama were compared to a chimp.  I replied
that it would piss of the Black community (as diverse as it may be),
not the Liberal Community per se.  You read victim politics into that?
 Bullshit.


On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> David,
>
> The African American community is not a monolithic block either.  The
> blacks (sorry, I'm a pilot and we always go for the shortest version
> of almost everything) that I work with and am friends with put country
> first.  They consider themselves just Americans.  If you ask my wife
> what she is, she would first ask, "race or citizenship?"
>
> Who's the most aggrieved in America? Former slaves?  The Irish?  Jews?
>  Chinese?  Pick an aggrieved community.  Get over it.  You are not
> going to save the world.  Penniless Mexicans come here illegally and
> work their asses off for a few years and go home to their families.
> Get a grip on reality.
>
> This PC bullshit has gone on long enough!  Some day when my
> Irish/German/English/ and half slant-eyed daughter is old enough to
> spar I'll let her explain it to you!
>
> Enough with the victim politics!  Give it a rest!
>
> Brad
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:44 AM, David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think the reaction wouldn't come from the left, it would come from
>> the African American Community, and it would be well justified.  There
>> are lines that even satirists don't cross if they want to stay in
>> business - ask Don Imus.  I know you think it is a cultural thing.  I
>> would call it a social thing.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>>> Might be a big day for me on making bets - What do you think would be
>>> the left wing reaction (if he DOES get elected) the first time there's a
>>> comparison to chimps similar to what was done with Bush (which I thought
>>> was hilarious, BTW) ?
>>>
>>>
>>> JbTek wrote:
>>>> ya,     "Bush bashing is fun" will turn into "Obama bashing is fun", then
>>>> the other side will cry about Americans "not getting behind there
>>>> President".
>>>> Jb
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>>>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 10:03 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] The end of the Rove era -- Political
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Herb,
>>>>> Once again you label someone without knowing anything about them. If
>>>>>
>>>> someone
>>>>
>>>>> even says anything that you find contrary to your beliefs, you label  them
>>>>>
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>> liberal. I am sorry that you walk through life with blinders on. There is
>>>>>
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>> whole world out there to experience.
>>>>> Now that today is the election day, I for one would hope that the
>>>>>
>>>> political
>>>>
>>>>> chit chat would slow down a bit, but that's just wishful thinking.  If
>>>>>
>>>> Obama
>>>>
>>>>> wins, the right wing republicans will stop at nothing to bash him for the
>>>>> next four years. If McCain wins it will be four more years of bashing him.
>>>>>
>>>> As I
>>>>
>>>>> see it, nobody is going to win. Same crap, different day and non of it
>>>>>
>>>> amounts
>>>>
>>>>>  to anything anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rummy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 11/4/2008 11:58:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>> hparsons at parsonsys.com writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't  blame you a bit. If I were a left-wing liberal, I'd want the
>>>>> same thing.  Being of the opposite persuasion, I'm hoping she's around a
>>>>> while to bring  some real change.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Herb,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not a gambling person and I don't much care  for politics or
>>>>>>
>>>>> politicians.
>>>>>
>>>>>> My hope is that Palin will  disappear into the sunset just like Dan
>>>>>>
>>>> Quale
>>>>
>>>>> did.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rummy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a message dated  11/4/2008 11:09:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>>>  hparsons at parsonsys.com writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you not  see how self-conflicting your statements are?  McCain is
>>>>>>
>>>> left
>>>>
>>>>>> of  the middle. If he "lurches" right, he moves TOWARDS the  middle, not
>>>>>>
>>>>> away.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't place many bets that are not sure things,  but  here's one I
>>>>>>
>>>> will.
>>>>
>>>>>> $100 says that Palin successfully  runs for national  public office,
>>>>>> maintaining a conservative  right agenda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wanna put  our money where your mouth  is?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lowe, Rob wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Dave,
>>>>>>> Thanks for the story.  I certainly  agree with it.  I  do think
>>>>>>>
>>>> McCain's
>>>>
>>>>>>> lurch towards the  right hurt him.  We'll have  to await the final
>>>>>>>
>>>> results
>>>>
>>>>>>>  to see if it's true or not.  I do  agree his pick of Palin may have
>>>>>>>
>>>> cost
>>>>
>>>>>>> McCain the election by  alienating the middle.  I  recall after the
>>>>>>> convention he floated  the name of Tom Ridge  as his running mate, but
>>>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>>> base recoiled due  to Ridge  being pro life.  Tom Ridge may have helped
>>>>>>> him win   Pennsylvania, which is so critical to McCain's chances.   So
>>>>>>>  McCain was stuck trying to pick a running mate that  appealed to the
>>>>>>>  base, which was Palin.  Problem was it  drove the middle away.   With
>>>>>>> Palin's approval ratings  in the teens and her disapproval ratings
>>>>>>>
>>>> over
>>>>
>>>>>>> 50%, it's  certainly not helping McCain.  If you have the CNN  story,
>>>>>>>
>>>> I'll
>>>>
>>>>>>> read it. -  rob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  -----Original  Message-----
>>>>>>> From:   rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>>>>   [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of David
>>>>>>>
>>>> Bradley
>>>>
>>>>>>>  Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 6:51 PM
>>>>>>>  To: The Rhodes 22 Email  List
>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] The  end of the Rove era --  Political
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think this in  an interesting piece which  reinforces what I've been
>>>>>>> saying  about the importance of the middle of  the political  spectrum.
>>>>>>> A similar article on CNN.com over the weekend   about how Sarah Palin
>>>>>>> may have cost McCain and herself the  election by  alienating the
>>>>>>>
>>>> middle
>>>>
>>>>>>> - I can send that link if  anyone wants  it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15177.html
>>>>>>>
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