[Rhodes22-list] sailing reply to Andrew...

Andrew Collins sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com
Wed Nov 12 17:45:01 EST 2008


Ed

Thanks. My curiosity is piqued, and I will be researching that model boat
more. Do you think a boom furler could be attached?

Andrew

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:

>
> The Rhodes 22 and O'Day 26 are only similar in the stubby keel and swing
> centerboard.
>
> The IMF spoils you in regards to sails.  A boat with IMF and furling
> foresail has infinitely adjustable combinations for varying wind
> conditions.
> This gives the R22 with IMF and furling foresail easily adjustable for
> conditions.
>
> The O'Day 26 is a standard mast mainsail.  And because of the design of the
> boat the main is specifically designed for this boat.  It has a big roach
> main sail.  The mainsail is unique, at least to me.
>
> I learned to sail on a standard mast mainsail boat.  Its shape was not like
> the main that I got with the 26. The mainsail is different from a standard
> main Rhodes 22.  The main on the 26 does not look like the main of Bob
> Weber's boat in the picture on his web site.
>
> The shape of the bow is also very specific. C. Raymond Hunt a boat
> designer,
> who worked out of Boston, was the equal of Phil Rhodes.  Hunt even got a
> patent on the shape of his bow.  It is supposed to be very efficient in
> slicing thru water.  The angle is very specific.
>
> Hunt has followed Rhodes to designing in the way beyond, but his company
> still exists.  The current president must be Stan's age.  His name is John
> Deknatel.  But to make you happy, he is a MIT grad.  He is a virtually an
> unknown design name because all his works came as designed by C. Raymond
> Hunt Associates.
>
> Hunt was no longer a sailboat designer when the 26 was designed.  In fact,
> Deknatel probably designed the 25.  The 26 has a history.  It is a
> refinement of the O'Day 25 which was built for about 10 years.  Like Stan
> and the Rhodes 22 there was constant refinement of the 25.
>
> The 26 made a couple of sailing performance changes even though it was
> stated to be a cosmetic modernization.  The stubby keel is at least 3
> inches
> deeper on the 26 which improves its sailing performance.  The keel may also
> be a little longer.  And there where other handling design changes.
>
> What I am saying is the O'Day 26 design is more performance directed than
> the R22.  Raymond Hunt had a son who raced sailboats, that is Jim Hunt.
>  Jim
> Hunt was for a time President of O'Day sailboats.  So the performance
> influence is noticeable.
>
> I did not get the boat because of what I have said above.  I got it as a
> project boat to fix up.  Trying to find information on the boat, I came up
> the above history.
>
> My wife usually sleeps while I do the sailing.  The 26 has berth/settees on
> both sides of the cabin.  So she likes that feature.  The boat weighs about
> a ton more than the R22, so the ballast effect is noticeable.
>
> On the Rhodes 22, we generally sit toward the back of the cockpit.  This
> boat is designed that the place to sail it is forward in the cockpit.  The
> traveler is forward of the cockpit near the companionway.  I use the
> traveler much more than on the R22.
>
> In response to your question, they are quite different even though both
> have
> stubby keels with swing centerboards.
>
> Stan suggested that I put a R22 IMF mast on it, but the amount of sail
> would
> be reduced too much.  The boom on this thing is 10' 8' long and you cannot
> roll that much sail into the R22 IMF.  Elle's picture of the Skipjacks
> shows
> a long boomed sailboat.
>
> BTW, my R22 is currently in my backyard.  Getting it there is a major
> project.
>
> Ed K
>
>
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