[Rhodes22-list] sailing reply to Andrew...

Herb Parsons hparsons at parsonsys.com
Wed Nov 12 18:21:55 EST 2008


Are you asking about a boom furler on the O'Day, or a Rhodes 22?

I don't think I've ever seen a mainsail furler on an O'Day 25 or 26. The 
boats originally came with a jiffy reef system that is pretty easy to 
use. I've reefed mine in some pretty nasty weather.


Andrew Collins wrote:
> Ed
>
> Thanks. My curiosity is piqued, and I will be researching that model boat
> more. Do you think a boom furler could be attached?
>
> Andrew
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> The Rhodes 22 and O'Day 26 are only similar in the stubby keel and swing
>> centerboard.
>>
>> The IMF spoils you in regards to sails.  A boat with IMF and furling
>> foresail has infinitely adjustable combinations for varying wind
>> conditions.
>> This gives the R22 with IMF and furling foresail easily adjustable for
>> conditions.
>>
>> The O'Day 26 is a standard mast mainsail.  And because of the design of the
>> boat the main is specifically designed for this boat.  It has a big roach
>> main sail.  The mainsail is unique, at least to me.
>>
>> I learned to sail on a standard mast mainsail boat.  Its shape was not like
>> the main that I got with the 26. The mainsail is different from a standard
>> main Rhodes 22.  The main on the 26 does not look like the main of Bob
>> Weber's boat in the picture on his web site.
>>
>> The shape of the bow is also very specific. C. Raymond Hunt a boat
>> designer,
>> who worked out of Boston, was the equal of Phil Rhodes.  Hunt even got a
>> patent on the shape of his bow.  It is supposed to be very efficient in
>> slicing thru water.  The angle is very specific.
>>
>> Hunt has followed Rhodes to designing in the way beyond, but his company
>> still exists.  The current president must be Stan's age.  His name is John
>> Deknatel.  But to make you happy, he is a MIT grad.  He is a virtually an
>> unknown design name because all his works came as designed by C. Raymond
>> Hunt Associates.
>>
>> Hunt was no longer a sailboat designer when the 26 was designed.  In fact,
>> Deknatel probably designed the 25.  The 26 has a history.  It is a
>> refinement of the O'Day 25 which was built for about 10 years.  Like Stan
>> and the Rhodes 22 there was constant refinement of the 25.
>>
>> The 26 made a couple of sailing performance changes even though it was
>> stated to be a cosmetic modernization.  The stubby keel is at least 3
>> inches
>> deeper on the 26 which improves its sailing performance.  The keel may also
>> be a little longer.  And there where other handling design changes.
>>
>> What I am saying is the O'Day 26 design is more performance directed than
>> the R22.  Raymond Hunt had a son who raced sailboats, that is Jim Hunt.
>>  Jim
>> Hunt was for a time President of O'Day sailboats.  So the performance
>> influence is noticeable.
>>
>> I did not get the boat because of what I have said above.  I got it as a
>> project boat to fix up.  Trying to find information on the boat, I came up
>> the above history.
>>
>> My wife usually sleeps while I do the sailing.  The 26 has berth/settees on
>> both sides of the cabin.  So she likes that feature.  The boat weighs about
>> a ton more than the R22, so the ballast effect is noticeable.
>>
>> On the Rhodes 22, we generally sit toward the back of the cockpit.  This
>> boat is designed that the place to sail it is forward in the cockpit.  The
>> traveler is forward of the cockpit near the companionway.  I use the
>> traveler much more than on the R22.
>>
>> In response to your question, they are quite different even though both
>> have
>> stubby keels with swing centerboards.
>>
>> Stan suggested that I put a R22 IMF mast on it, but the amount of sail
>> would
>> be reduced too much.  The boom on this thing is 10' 8' long and you cannot
>> roll that much sail into the R22 IMF.  Elle's picture of the Skipjacks
>> shows
>> a long boomed sailboat.
>>
>> BTW, my R22 is currently in my backyard.  Getting it there is a major
>> project.
>>
>> Ed K
>>
>>
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