[Rhodes22-list] O'Day 26 w. IMF NOW Army Nave Game

KUHN, LELAND LKUHN at cnmc.org
Sat Nov 15 21:12:42 EST 2008


Art,
 
"BTW, any bets on the Army-Navy?"

You're on!  I Googled about 20 sites and still couldn't find the point spread on the game, but it looks likely that Navy may beat us again this year.  How about the loser buys lunch at the next Annapolis boat show?

Speaking of the military, my son made me a very proud papa today and I just have to share the news.  He received an Army ROTC scholarship for Loyola in Baltimore.  The scholarship covers everything but room and board, and Loyola is picking that up.  That's more than $200,000 over four years.  His comment was that now I can buy a new boat.  Man I love that kid!  I love my wife too, but not as much after she said that we didn't have that kind of money for college so I wouldn't be spending that much on a boat.  I think a new Rhodes would be a fair compromise.

Lee 



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From: Arthur H. Czerwonky [mailto:czerwonky at earthlink.net]
Sent: Fri 11/14/2008 4:59 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] O'Day 26 w. IMF



Herb,

Somehow I knew I'd get a reaction.  I'd never try in the power boat mode for certain,  Even if it didn't tip, the experience at 15k would not be enjoyable.  I usually operate the M26 as a power boat with a stubby and my boomroom, and it starts to be very comfortable and economical. 

When I first explored the feasibility of a ~26' powerboat, most take a really bad hit on upfront costs, trailability, running costs, and maintenance.  Bill Effros has a stubby for his boat if I am correct.  He'd probably have a damn nice little power rig if he used it on his boat, although who of us would not prefer to sail?  BTW, any bets on the Army-Navy?

Art

-----Original Message-----
>From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>Sent: Nov 14, 2008 12:24 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] O'Day 26 w. IMF
>
>Don't know if you mean the Mac26 that is also a powerboat. If so, I
>don't think that's an experiment I'd try. That boat is very tender when
>that ballast is empty for "power boating" mode. I would avoid any
>modifications.
>
>Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>> Herb,
>> Looking at a snapshot of the O'Day 26, the spreaders are straight out, so the upper and lower side stays should be compatable (modified only for length).  The shoe for the mast bottom is available from Rudy Nickerson (D&R Marine in Mass).  Ed would have a neat craft with that IMF attached, especially nice with the large genny and the additional ballast.  Nice 26 advertised in Racine Wisconsin.  I have been tempted to put an IMF on a Mac26 with full water ballast and hold my breath.
>> Art
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>  
>>> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>> Sent: Nov 12, 2008 9:58 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] O'Day 26 w. IMF
>>>
>>> Actually, that last little bit is intriguing. The O'Day's mast is deck
>>> stepped, using a a plate, really looks more like a shoe. It would be
>>> pretty easy to buy another one of those, attach the other mast, and
>>> switch it out.
>>>
>>> The shrouds would be another story, but it's not like you'd have to
>>> redesign half the boat to do it as an experiment.
>>>
>>> On thing I would be cautious about, the O'Day only has 6 stays total,
>>> forestay, back stay, and two shrouds on each side.
>>>
>>> Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>>>    
>>>> Ed,
>>>>
>>>> Given that most of the driving power comes from the genny, and your's would be a 155-175% versus a 130, I suspect a net gain.  Battened main matters not since you would be using the IMF sail/mast combo with IMF boom.  You would need to add a mid-boom bail and block to the traveler, of course.  I'm not sure about alignment of the spreaders and chainplates. 
>>>>
>>>> I was once contemplating installing my spare IMF mast to a non-R22 boat, but have never gotten a round tuit.  The mast should fit, and the boat should do about the same as Stan's 26' creation.  Just an idea to chew on.
>>>>
>>>> Art
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>  
>>>>      
>>>>> From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>>> Sent: Nov 12, 2008 8:27 PM
>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  sailing reply to Arthur
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Art,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rhodes sail  ='s 210
>>>>>
>>>>> O'Day sail ='s 278
>>>>>
>>>>> On a small boat that is a big difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also O'Day is a battened main (4).
>>>>>
>>>>> Genoa usually 130% standard.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mast height on R = 26
>>>>> Mast height on O = 28
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed K
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed,
>>>>> I expect the R22 IMF would be nice on your 26' O'Day, although the stays
>>>>> would need to be changed.  If the mast were used, the corresponding boom
>>>>> would need to be used and the genny also.  I doubt much significant loss in
>>>>> speed, alot gained in convenience.
>>>>> Art
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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