[Rhodes22-list] O'Day 26 w. IMF NOW Army Nave Game

Ron Singerman sail at tds.net
Sun Nov 16 22:06:31 EST 2008


Art,

I'll take part of that bet.  HOOAH !!! "All the way"

>>ron<<
S/V Serenity

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] O'Day 26 w. IMF NOW Army Nave Game


> Lee,
>
> It's a bet, my friend.  You did say you are betting that Army will win.  I 
> can't wait to collect - let's see, Harbour House, isn't it...
>
> That's great news about your son.  I'll bet Loyola has a sailing team.
>
> I also have good news.  I will become a grandad in March.  The addition 
> will be a little girl (6#10 ounces on March 6th), and she will be a 
> skilled Rhodes skipper by the time...  Oh, no, let's not go there.
>
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
>>Sent: Nov 15, 2008 10:11 PM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] O'Day 26 w. IMF NOW Army Nave Game
>>
>>Lee,That is fantastic. congratulations!
>>
>>He must take after his mom..;^) (teasing!)
>>
>>elle
>>
>>We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
>>
>>1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)
>>
>>
>>--- On Sat, 11/15/08, KUHN, LELAND <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
>>
>>> From: KUHN, LELAND <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] O'Day 26 w. IMF NOW Army Nave Game
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Date: Saturday, November 15, 2008, 9:12 PM
>>> Art,
>>>
>>> "BTW, any bets on the Army-Navy?"
>>>
>>> You're on!  I Googled about 20 sites and still
>>> couldn't find the point spread on the game, but it looks
>>> likely that Navy may beat us again this year.  How about the
>>> loser buys lunch at the next Annapolis boat show?
>>>
>>> Speaking of the military, my son made me a very proud papa
>>> today and I just have to share the news.  He received an
>>> Army ROTC scholarship for Loyola in Baltimore.  The
>>> scholarship covers everything but room and board, and Loyola
>>> is picking that up.  That's more than $200,000 over four
>>> years.  His comment was that now I can buy a new boat.  Man
>>> I love that kid!  I love my wife too, but not as much after
>>> she said that we didn't have that kind of money for
>>> college so I wouldn't be spending that much on a boat.
>>> I think a new Rhodes would be a fair compromise.
>>>
>>> Lee
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: Arthur H. Czerwonky [mailto:czerwonky at earthlink.net]
>>> Sent: Fri 11/14/2008 4:59 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] O'Day 26 w. IMF
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Herb,
>>>
>>> Somehow I knew I'd get a reaction.  I'd never try
>>> in the power boat mode for certain,  Even if it didn't
>>> tip, the experience at 15k would not be enjoyable.  I
>>> usually operate the M26 as a power boat with a stubby and my
>>> boomroom, and it starts to be very comfortable and
>>> economical.
>>>
>>> When I first explored the feasibility of a ~26'
>>> powerboat, most take a really bad hit on upfront costs,
>>> trailability, running costs, and maintenance.  Bill Effros
>>> has a stubby for his boat if I am correct.  He'd
>>> probably have a damn nice little power rig if he used it on
>>> his boat, although who of us would not prefer to sail?  BTW,
>>> any bets on the Army-Navy?
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>> >Sent: Nov 14, 2008 12:24 AM
>>> >To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] O'Day 26 w. IMF
>>> >
>>> >Don't know if you mean the Mac26 that is also a
>>> powerboat. If so, I
>>> >don't think that's an experiment I'd try.
>>> That boat is very tender when
>>> >that ballast is empty for "power boating"
>>> mode. I would avoid any
>>> >modifications.
>>> >
>>> >Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>>> >> Herb,
>>> >> Looking at a snapshot of the O'Day 26, the
>>> spreaders are straight out, so the upper and lower side
>>> stays should be compatable (modified only for length).  The
>>> shoe for the mast bottom is available from Rudy Nickerson
>>> (D&R Marine in Mass).  Ed would have a neat craft with
>>> that IMF attached, especially nice with the large genny and
>>> the additional ballast.  Nice 26 advertised in Racine
>>> Wisconsin.  I have been tempted to put an IMF on a Mac26
>>> with full water ballast and hold my breath.
>>> >> Art
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>
>>> >>> From: Herb Parsons
>>> <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>> >>> Sent: Nov 12, 2008 9:58 PM
>>> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] O'Day 26 w.
>>> IMF
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Actually, that last little bit is intriguing.
>>> The O'Day's mast is deck
>>> >>> stepped, using a a plate, really looks more
>>> like a shoe. It would be
>>> >>> pretty easy to buy another one of those,
>>> attach the other mast, and
>>> >>> switch it out.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The shrouds would be another story, but
>>> it's not like you'd have to
>>> >>> redesign half the boat to do it as an
>>> experiment.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On thing I would be cautious about, the
>>> O'Day only has 6 stays total,
>>> >>> forestay, back stay, and two shrouds on each
>>> side.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Ed,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Given that most of the driving power comes
>>> from the genny, and your's would be a 155-175% versus a
>>> 130, I suspect a net gain.  Battened main matters not since
>>> you would be using the IMF sail/mast combo with IMF boom.
>>> You would need to add a mid-boom bail and block to the
>>> traveler, of course.  I'm not sure about alignment of
>>> the spreaders and chainplates.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I was once contemplating installing my
>>> spare IMF mast to a non-R22 boat, but have never gotten a
>>> round tuit.  The mast should fit, and the boat should do
>>> about the same as Stan's 26' creation.  Just an idea
>>> to chew on.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Art
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> From: Tootle
>>> <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>> >>>>> Sent: Nov 12, 2008 8:27 PM
>>> >>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> >>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  sailing
>>> reply to Arthur
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Art,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Rhodes sail  ='s 210
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> O'Day sail ='s 278
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On a small boat that is a big
>>> difference.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Also O'Day is a battened main (4).
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Genoa usually 130% standard.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Mast height on R = 26
>>> >>>>> Mast height on O = 28
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Ed K
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Ed,
>>> >>>>> I expect the R22 IMF would be nice on
>>> your 26' O'Day, although the stays
>>> >>>>> would need to be changed.  If the mast
>>> were used, the corresponding boom
>>> >>>>> would need to be used and the genny
>>> also.  I doubt much significant loss in
>>> >>>>> speed, alot gained in convenience.
>>> >>>>> Art
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> --
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>>> http://www.nabble.com/sailing-reply-to-Andrew...-tp20468855p20472957.html
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