[Rhodes22-list] Political - Palin, Obama
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Wed Nov 19 20:27:48 EST 2008
You DO understand the difference between an orator, and someone with
oratory skills. Surely you're not saying that after hearing Palin's
speech to the RNC that she had NO oratory skills?
How does having (or not having) an oratory ability reflect a lack (or
existence) of anti-intellectual attitudes?
Sorry Robert, your guy won the election, but he did not receive a
mandate for the rest of the world to blindly become like him and what he
represents.
Again, you used Reagan as an example, but you seem to overlook what the
"deep thinkers" and intellectual community were saying about him back then.
For all of Carter's deep thinking and oratory abilities, he let a group
of "students" hold us hostage for over a year. My personal result is our
actions during that disgraceful period were in a large part responsible
for 9-11.
Take those radicals, who we were TOTALLY unsuccessful in dealing with,
and multiply them by 10 fold. THAT is what the orator and deep thinker
is going to deal with. That's OK though, because he's already made it
clear that he's willing to sit down with any of them and "talk".
We'll see what the oratory and talk gets us.
Robert Skinner wrote:
> Herb, I think that a person who has some oratory
> skills will be a help in negotiations with the
> international community. They do not have the
> anti-intellectual attitude that has been anything
> but an asset as we interact with the world's best
> brains.
>
> /Robert
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Herb Parsons wrote:
>
>> Brad,
>>
>> Robtert (and others like him) are looking at Palin from the far left
>> view. They're somehow under the illusion that we WANT an "orator" or a
>> "deep thinker". It's funny the two he compared her (negatively) to.
>> Regan, who the Democrats lambasted much the same way they did her
>> (remember when he talked about Star Wars defense, and they started
>> derisively calling him Ray-Gun?), and President Jimmy Carter. Carter!!!
>> Yes, a great orator, a great guy in general, a good Christian man, and a
>> joke of a President. If that's what oratory ability and deep thinking
>> gets us, give me the common man (or woman) instead!!!
>>
>>
>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>>
>>> Robert,
>>>
>>> Well, it seems you've bought into the MSM meme and haven't done your
>>> own homework. I suggest you do your own due diligence on Gov. Palin's
>>> very real accomplishments before you let other people do your thinking
>>> for you. Unlike Obama's long string of failures in Chicago, Palin can
>>> point to real successes. Frankly, I'm not impressed by a Harvard
>>> degree in law or anything else. For the sake of the country, I wish
>>> for a successful Obama Presidency. As for me and my family, "we're
>>> loaded for bear". How anyone can believe that a leader with a
>>> mediocre track record following failed economic themes can be
>>> successful is beyond me. No one will be more happily surprised if it
>>> all works out OK than myself.
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Robert Skinner
>>> <Robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Certainly, she is no "Great Communicator."
>>>> We will never see "Bedtime for Palin."
>>>> Nor, I suspect, will we hear about a
>>>> Carteresque "lusting in the heart."
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, Brad.
>>>>
>>>> But is too early to expect that Bambizilla
>>>> will retire from the political scene. I
>>>> suspect that the GOP spinsters will find
>>>> some way to use her, perhaps as a contrast,
>>>> a straw woman, to a real Republican orator
>>>> or deep thinker to spark up the 2012 campaign.
>>>>
>>>> But for the next two years, I hope, we can
>>>> get working on the nation's business. We can
>>>> hope that Obama can calm the fears and tame
>>>> the chaos of an economy headed for the
>>>> dumpster. We will also see if he can
>>>> extricate us gracefully from Iraq and succeed
>>>> in bringing down the terrorist franchises.
>>>>
>>>> Hoping,
>>>> /Robert
>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>> Ben Cittadino wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Rummy;
>>>>>
>>>>> Very cute.
>>>>>
>>>>> And now....before she fades into the sunset, some final words from Sarah
>>>>> Palin....
>>>>>
>>>>> "My concern has been the atrocities there in Darfur and the relevance to me
>>>>> with that issue as we spoke about Africa and some of the countries there
>>>>> that were kind of the people succumbing to the dictators and the corruption
>>>>> of some collapsed governments on the continent, the relevance was Alaska's
>>>>> investment in Darfur with some of our permanent fund dollars"
>>>>>
>>>>> And, she concluded, "never, ever did I talk about, well, gee, is it a
>>>>> country or a continent, I just don't know about this issue."
>>>>>
>>>>> I know, I know... her heart is in the right place (and so are a few other
>>>>> parts).
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben C.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> R22RumRunner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> No Hard Feelings...to the democrats
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The election day is over,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The talking is done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My party lost, your party won.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So let us be friends,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let arguments pass.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll hug my elephant,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You kiss your ass.
>>>>>>
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