[Rhodes22-list] Slim's response - non sailing, religious, etc.

[TN Rhodey]

Ed, Some need religion to determine right and wrong. Others do not. Why do
you assume the only other option is Marist?  Different cultures have
different views on what is proper. Religion guides these views in both
positive and negative manners.

For me the Bible is not a book about history but rather about philosophy and
a study of how man rationalizes fear. Totem Poles worshipping the sun and
moon are no different than a Rosary Bead. Both were invented to make man
feel better about the unknown.

Anyone paying attention to studies involving asteroids and the formation of
amino acids? I don't have links handy but some interesting stuff. Some say
it takes more faith to believe in evolution over Adam & Eve. I have faith in
science.

Fair Winds,

Wally

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:

>
> Slim said, "Religion throughout all civilizations serve to answer three
> questions:  Where did we
> come from?  How shall we live?  What happens when we die?"
>
> Captain Alm, without religion where are humans supposed to get guidelines
> on
> the middle question you pose?
>
> Are they supposed to get them from the Marxist indoctrination proffered by
> Mr. Bill Ayers?
>
> You forgot to delineate a suggested answer to your question.
>
> Consider that some religions have a couple of thousand years of experience,
> trial and error, see what works with humans to answer that question.
> Whereas, Marxism has a little over 100 years of experience with most of its
> demonstrations disasters.  And disasters should be capitalized as having
> been unmitigated disasters.  Which system has raised the overall standard
> of
> living in the world the most?  The answer is not a Marxist based system
> which our new President represents.
>
> A capitalist system based on freedom with a sheriff enforcing standards of
> honesty has helped mankind the most.  Rather than compulsory taking from
> those who make the most efforts to achieve and giving to those who need, it
> loosely achieves results by rewarding effort.  Those who achieve drag the
> dregs and unable up by raising the overall standard of living.
>
> When you compel those who achieve or are able to achieve to maintain those
> who want the same standard of living without the toil, it is a real
> disincentive to the toil needed to achieve.
>
> This is illustrated by Ronald Reagan's story of the Red Hen.  This was
> demonstrated in human terms in the old Soviet Union during the 1930's with
> the event of history the Ukrainians call the "Holodomor (Ukrainian:
> Голодомор)"  See some information about the results of government
> compulsion:
>
> http://www.ukrainiangenocide.com/
>
> http://www.infoukes.com/history/famine/
>
> Understand that Marxism or socialism has as central purpose to replace the
> human belief in God.  Remember Whittaker Chambers, a former Communists
> Party
> member who admonished, "The revolutionary heart of Marxism is a simple
> conviction: It is necessary to change the world.  This conviction is the
> "vision of man's mind displacing God as the creative intelligence of the
> world. It is the vision of man's liberated mind, by the sole force of its
> rational intelligence, redirecting man's destiny and reorganizing man's
> life
> and the world."
>
> So you really think that you are smarter than all those who came before
> you?
>
> Ed K
> Addendum:
> Red Hen
>
> A modern day little red hen may not sound like or appear to be a quotable
> authority on economics but then some authorities aren't worth quoting.
>
> About a year ago I imposed a little poetry on you. It was called "The
> Incredible Bread Machine" and made a lot of sense with reference to matters
> economic. You didn't object too much so having gotten away with it once I'm
> going to try again. This is a little treatise on basic economics called
> "The
> Modern little Red Hen."
>
> Once upon a time there was a little red hen who scratched about the
> barnyard
> until she uncovered some grains of wheat. She called her neighbors and said
> 'If we plant this wheat, we shall have bread to eat. Who will help me plant
> it?'
>
> "Not I, " said the cow.
>
> "Not I," said the duck.
>
> "Not I," said the pig.
>
> "Not I," said the goose.
>
> "Then I will," said the little red hen. And she did. The wheat grew tall
> and
> ripened into golden grain. "Who will help me reap my wheat?" asked the
> little red hen.
>
> "Not I," said the duck.
>
> "Out of my classification," said the pig.
>
> "I'd lose my seniority," said the cow.
>
> "I'd lose my unemployment compensation," said the goose.
>
> "Then I will," said the little red hen, and she did.
>
> At last the time came to bake the bread. "Who will help me bake bread?"
> asked the little red hen.
>
> "That would be overtime for me," said the cow.
>
> "I'd lose my welfare benefits," said the duck.
>
> "I'm a dropout and never learned how," said the pig.
>
> "If I'm to be the only helper, that's discrimination," said the goose.
>
> "Then I will," said the little red hen.
>
> She baked five loaves and held them up for the neighbors to see.
>
> They all wanted some and, in fact, demanded a share. But the little red hen
> said, "No, I can eat the five loaves myself."
>
> "Excess profits," cried the cow.
>
> "Capitalist leech," screamed the duck.
>
> "I demand equal rights," yelled the goose.
>
> And the pig just grunted.
>
> And they painted "unfair" picket signs and marched round and around the
> little red hen shouting obscenities.
>
> When the government agent came, he said to the little red hen, "You must
> not
> be greedy."
>
> "But I earned the bread," said the little red hen.
>
> "Exactly," said the agent. "That's the wonderful free enterprise system.
> Anyone in the barnyard can earn as much as he wants. But under our modern
> government regulations productive workers must divide their products with
> the idle."
>
> And they lived happily ever after, including the little red hen, who smiled
> and clucked, "I am grateful, I am grateful." But her neighbors wondered why
> she never again baked any more bread.
>
> From Ronald Reagan...  Reagan In His Own Voice (Audio book/download) ^ |
> November 1976 | Ronald Reagan
>
>
>
>
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