[Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL-Palin Begins 2012 Campaign

Herb Parsons hparsons at parsonsys.com
Wed Nov 26 13:03:54 EST 2008


Dave,

What are you basing this on, other than your opinion?


David Bradley wrote:
> As Robert points out, the article is talking about the Republican
> base, which represents a minority.  The most telling analysis I looked
> at was the exit poll data (without any media spin), which I spent some
> time digging through.  I can't seem to find a link to the data any
> longer.  But from memory, it said that about 30% of voters consider
> themselves conservative and voted overwhelmingly for McPalin.  That
> about 40% consider themselves liberal and voted overswhelmingly for
> Obama.  The middle third carried the election (as they always do) and
> leaned marginally toward Obama.  I still contend that a more moderate
> VP pick by McCain could have swung the election, or at least closed
> the gap quite a bit.  None of your or Brad's arguments speak to the
> moderate middle.  I get that Palin energized the Conservative base.
> Could Palin have driven more Republicans to the polls?  Perhaps that
> accounts for a point or two but that seems a stretch.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>   
>> You've been reading the wrong analsys'. I haven't read anything that
>> puts a number, but there have been MANY pieces by conservatives that
>> talk about how she energized the base, and pulled people to support McCain.
>>
>> David Bradley wrote:
>>     
>>> Brad, do you really believe that?  "Despite what the pundits write,
>>> McCain would have lost by 10 points without Palin."  I've not seen a
>>> single piece of analysis that doesn't say Pailin cost McCain votes in
>>> the centrist crowd.  I am not debating that she accomplished good
>>> things in Alaska or that she isn't a viable conservative candidate.  I
>>> just think she contributed to the defeat this time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Rummy,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to burst your bubble but that is not going to happen.  Despite
>>>> what the pundits write, McCain would have lost by 10 points without
>>>> Palin.  There are still a few of us left who believe in ourselves and
>>>> not some some 'gubment' program as our path to happiness and
>>>> prosperity.  Will Palin make it to the Whitehouse?  Maybe, maybe not.
>>>> Unlike "The One" where people project their hopes on a blank slate,
>>>> Sarah Palin has a real record of accomplishments. Get use to is Rummy,
>>>> Sarah has always written her own ticket and she's not losing sleep
>>>> about your bitching.  Come to think of it, neither am I.
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:42 PM,  <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Brad,
>>>>> Nobody is worried about Palin, we would just appreciate it if she would go
>>>>> home.....and stay there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rummy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 11/25/2008 7:34:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>> flybrad at yahoo.com writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sooner or later, people will figure out that Sarah Palin is  the "real deal".
>>>>>  She didn't make fools out of Big Oil CEO's by being  stupid despite the
>>>>> howls of derision against her by you and your ilk.   When the patina of
>>>>> "sacredness" has worn off The One, people will be hungry  for someone of substance.
>>>>> Laugh your ass off while you can.  The  press and the 'leftards' wouldn't pay so
>>>>> much attention to Palin if they  weren't worried about her.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Tue, 11/25/08, Ben  Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> From: Ben  Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com>
>>>>>> Subject:  [Rhodes22-list]  POLITICAL-Palin Begins 2012 Campaign
>>>>>> To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 6:04  PM
>>>>>> November 25, 2008, 3:11 pm NYTimes Online
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  "Southern Exposure
>>>>>> By Tobin Harshaw
>>>>>> Well, for those of you who  thought Sarah Palin would
>>>>>> quietly go North to the
>>>>>> Future, it  appears that instead she's going Deep South:
>>>>>> "Republican vice
>>>>>>  presidential nominee Sarah Palin will make multiple
>>>>>> campaign  appearances on
>>>>>> behalf of Sen. Saxby Chambliss next week in  Georgia,
>>>>>> serving as the
>>>>>> political closer for the GOP senator  who is battling to win
>>>>>> a second term,"
>>>>>> reports CNN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "This is Palin's first campaign appearance on behalf of
>>>>>>  another Republican
>>>>>> candidate since losing her bid to become the  nation's
>>>>>> first woman to serve
>>>>>> as vice president. Palin will  attend a fundraiser on Sunday
>>>>>> night, then
>>>>>> appear at multiple  campaign stops on Monday in an effort to
>>>>>> rally the GOP
>>>>>> base to  turn out to vote for Chambliss. The incumbent
>>>>>> Republican is facing  a
>>>>>> strong challenge from Democrat Jim Martin. A runoff is
>>>>>>  scheduled for next
>>>>>> Tuesday, after neither candidate received the 50  percent
>>>>>> plus one vote
>>>>>> needed to win on Election Day."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug Mataconis at Donklephant considers the strategy:
>>>>>> "The  biggest challenge
>>>>>> that both Chambliss and Martin face in the run-off  election
>>>>>> is getting their
>>>>>> voters to turn out to the polls,  since it's unlikely that
>>>>>> voter turnout will
>>>>>> be anywhere near  the level it reached on November 4th. To
>>>>>> the extent that
>>>>>> she's  able to motivate the base to get out and vote,
>>>>>> Palin could  prove
>>>>>> useful to Chambliss."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dr. Steven Taylor at  Poliblog thinks this may be more about
>>>>>> Palin than
>>>>>> Chambliss.  "First, the move is further evidence of
>>>>>> Palin's likely  long-term
>>>>>> ambitions," he writes. "Second, the move means that
>>>>>>  Chambliss thinks that
>>>>>> Palin plays well with the GOP base in a red  state like
>>>>>> Georgia … Certainly
>>>>>> if Chambliss wins, the trip  will be perceived as evidence
>>>>>> that Palin is a
>>>>>> serious actor  within the GOP going forward, at least within
>>>>>> GOP circles."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Palin or no Palin, Ed Morrissey at Hot Air is cautiously
>>>>>>  optimistic about
>>>>>> the G.O.P. chances:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Voter  enthusiasm for Martin has declined since the general
>>>>>> election.  Martin
>>>>>> got his momentum from the massive numbers of Obama  voters,
>>>>>> most of whom
>>>>>> appear less interested in the remaining  down-ticket race.
>>>>>> Chambliss may not
>>>>>> have that problem, since  John McCain didn't generate an
>>>>>> enthusiastic
>>>>>> response from the  Republican base, meaning that
>>>>>> Chambliss' voters will be
>>>>>>  motivated more by Chambliss himself. Republicans have the
>>>>>>  secondary
>>>>>> motivation to deny Obama a filibuster-proof Senate  by
>>>>>> ensuring Chambliss'
>>>>>> re-election.
>>>>>> Either way, it  looks like it will go down to the wire.
>>>>>> Republicans around
>>>>>> the  country who want to keep at least one potential check
>>>>>> on the excesses  of
>>>>>> single-party government had better start actively
>>>>>>  supporting the Chambliss
>>>>>> effort."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  We can't make  this stuff up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Happy Thanksgiving;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ben  C.
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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