[Rhodes22-list] Paul Krawitz and Andrew Collins and other interested parties about Political discussion is diluting the value of the current Rhodes 22 forum

[Herb Parsons]

We've been invaded by aliens. One has taken over his body and keyboard. 
All is lost...

Tootle wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Your comments about this forum are made a couple of times a year (?) or at
> least a couple of times every couple of years.  Believe it or not there are
> there other Rhodes forums.  When there is no activity on a forum the
> subscribers cease.  Ask Cowie how many responses he got on another forum?
>
> While it would be nice to have all sailing or boat related posts, history
> has shown that does not happen.  That results in having a couple of posts a
> year and negibible members.  Bill Effros recently called this list, "Rummy's
> Bar".  Some people would never step foot into a bar.  However, how many
> sailors never have an "adult beverage".  This is an old fashion tavern on
> the corner, an early American institution.
>  
> This email forum was created off one of that very restrictive email list. 
> It was comical to see about every third day a post asking, "Is this list
> working?' or 'Test' or some similar post.  So a number of members of that
> list asked if there was a way to have an active forum.  Captain Michael
> Meltzer, a New York City computer guru offered to host a polyglot forum and
> a wide open forum was agreed upon.  This list is the evolution of that
> forum.
>
> Many have disagreed with the format and opinions offered.  Many stated that
> they were leaving in disgust.  However, a sailing knowledgeable group
> remains.  There are still other restricted forums around.  But do they have
> traffic and responses?  A group without responses helps nobody.
>
> Occasionally members of this forum get together in different parts of the
> country.  Occasionally members visit other members while in other parts of
> the country.  Often groups meet and dine at the boat shows.  
>
> Paul that was a great picture you attached.  Do you have a trailer for your
> boat?  Maybe it is time to drag your boat and family to meet some others?  
>
> There is still just enough water in Lake Hartwell to launch a Rhodes 22. 
> The water level at the end of our ramps is at four feet.  There is still 150
> feet of water in the channel.  Dare to explore.  We have good restaurants in
> the upstate of South Carolina.  We have football games.  We have access to
> mountains. 
>
> Last weekend the parking lot on Black Balsam Mountain was so full the cars,
> trucks, SUV's were parking on both sides of the road.  Shinning Rock
> Wilderness was crowded.  Shinning Rock Ridge has been miss named it should
> be called 'Blue Berry Mountain'.  Hoards of people were picking gallons of
> blue berries.  
>
> There still might be a few left this weekend.  Come and pick wild blue
> berries at 6,000 feet.  Since it has recently rained up there it is safe to
> eat and pick. How many gallons were eaten instead of going into all those
> plastic milk jugs?  Oh, but I digressed from sailing...
>
> References:
>
> http://www.sas.usace.army.mil/lakes/hartwell/hartrampstat.htm
>
> http://www.justbbq.com/
>
> http://www.northcarolinaoutdoors.com/places/mountains/shiningrock.html
>
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
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> Andrew Collins s/v Carmen wrote:
>   
>> Paul
>>
>> I could not agree more. This forum has abandoned sailing in all but form,
>> and as to decorum, courtesy, tolerance and respect for others, both as to
>> people and opinions (in my mind at least these are different) we are
>> plumbing new depths. Elle managed to raise the bar a few weeks ago (hats
>> off!), but methinks I need a break. I am going sailing.
>>
>> Andrew
>> s/v Carmen
>>
>>
>> On 9/2/08, Robert Skinner <Robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> Paul, I hope you have your bullet proof vest on...
>>> /Robert
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Krawitz wrote:
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>>>> While I appreciate the desire for people to express theirpolitical
>>>> viewpoints, the use of Rhodes22.orgas the vehicle to do this dilutes
>>>>         
>>> the
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>>>> value of this
>>>> newsgroup for informational exchange regarding sailing, engines,
>>>> rigging, boating venues, and of course, the Rhodes 22 itself.
>>>>
>>>> Consequently, although I have received several
>>>> helpful communications regarding my second Rhodes,
>>>> I find myself deleting the discussions automatically
>>>> unless I've posted a question. Thus, I miss out on
>>>> potentially useful information.
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible that an alternate discussion group could
>>>> be created for those subscribers who wish to pursue
>>>> political commentary, thus maintaining the "purity" of
>>>> the Rhodes22.org web site and newsgroup?
>>>>
>>>> Are there any other subscribers who concur?
>>>>
>>>> Paul K
>>>> "Clarity"
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