[Rhodes22-list] Outboard Stalling

R22RumRunner at aol.com R22RumRunner at aol.com
Thu Sep 4 07:23:48 EDT 2008


Michael,
As long as you have the parts for the fuel pump, I would replace them  
anyway. Preventative maintenance after twenty years. Then you would be good for  
another twenty.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 9/3/2008 8:39:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mticse at gmail.com writes:



Looks like the fuel filter did the trick but also replaced the  motor side
hose end connector.
Tested while docked in forward gear in  3/4 throttle 3 times. Ran like a
champ !

Michael


MichaelT  wrote:
> 
> Just checked my local Yamaha dealer and luckily they  have all the parts
> waiting for me:
> 
> 1) 2 x Diaphram  & Gasket
> 2) Fuel filter
> 3) Primer bulb
> 
> I  will recheck the venting and replace the screw if needed.
> 
> I  plan to replace all and hope for the best :)
> 
> Thanks  Rummy/Mike !
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> R22RumRunner  wrote:
>> 
>> Mike,
>> Most fuel pumps that I've  seen over the years have two or three screws  
>> holding the  cover in place. Replacing the diaphragm is easy. This is one
>> you  can  
>> do. Most fuel pumps are mounted on the side of the  engine casing because
>> it 
>> uses  the vacuum of the  motor for power.
>>  
>> Rummy
>>   
>>  
>> In a message dated 9/2/2008 4:47:41 P.M.  Eastern Daylight Time,  
>> mticse at gmail.com writes:
>>  
>> 
>> Rummy,
>> 
>> Is this something I  can do? My water pump also gave  out at the begining
>>  of
>> the season. Got a parts diagram from a local dealer,   unbelievably a
>> water
>> pump kit was in stock, worked off  the parts diagram  and replaced the the
>> impeller myself. So  I'm somewhat mechanical. Can you  give a brief
>> instruction on  what to do? Any possibly complications I might 
>> experience?  
>> 
>> I was able to locate the diaphram (2 sited) you  speak of  off the
>> carbeurator
>> diagram online  (thanks to Mike). I suppose just order  the parts and off
>>  I
>> go?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>>  Michael
>> 
>> 
>> R22RumRunner   wrote:
>>> 
>>> You all are close to the problem, but  it's so obvious  that it often is  
>>> forgotten. After  20 years of use, the  diaphragm in the fuel pump has
>>> quit  
>>> working. 
>>> The parts can  be had from  your dealer. The kit comes with everything 
>>> you  
>>> need  to replace it: new diaphragm and gasket. All  together it's a
>>> fifteen 
>>>  minute  
>>> job.
>>>  
>>>  Rummy
>>>  
>>>   
>>> In a  message dated 9/2/2008 3:05:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,    
>>> mweisner at ebsmed.com writes:
>>> 
>>>  Michael  T,
>>>  
>>> You may wish to check  out the Yamaha parts website  at:;
>>>   http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outboard/parts/home.aspx
>>>  
>>> Put in  the  following:
>>> Step 1:  Product Line = Outboard
>>> Step 2:  Year = (your motor's  year)
>>> Step 3: Model = (your  motor's model  or  select one of the 8hp)
>>> 
>>> I tried a 1988 8hp  long shaft   as a guess and found the attached image
>>>  of
>>> the 
>>> gas tank &  filter  (#22)  (it is probably at the very bottom of the
>>>  email)
>>>  
>>> Mike
>>> s/v  Shanghai'd  Summer ('81)
>>> Nissequogue  River,  NY
>>> 
>>> From: "MichaelT"    <mticse at gmail.com>Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008
>>> 1:29  
>>>   PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK...some basic  questions  Mike:
>>>>
>>>>  Where's  the fuel filter? Its not refrenced  in the Yamaha owner's  
>>>> manual.
>>>> Btw, I disconnected the   hose at the tank end and blew air into  the
>>>> tank  
>>>>  hose
>>>> opening (w/ my mouth) and  was/felt clear. I  wanted to  disassemble the
>>>>  top 
>>>> pf
>>>> the tank where the   hose  enters but did not see any  screws.
>>>>
>>>> I  suppose if the fuel  filt  fix doesn't work we'll move to option #2,  
 
>>>> replace
>>>> the  hose/primer  bulb  assembly.
>>>>
>>>>   Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   R22MikeW  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Michael  T,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Open  the tank filler cap and see if  it runs.  If it does, the  tank
>>>>> vent 
>>   
>>>>>  is
>>>>> clogged.  If it  doesn't, you need to check  the  fuel filter for  an
>>>>> obstruction or clog.  It may be   easier  to replace rather than check.
>>>>> Lastly, you  may  have a bad fuel pump  (the primer bulb may  be
>>>>> actually
>>>>>  filling the  fuel bowl.)  I  have also seen problems in the primer  
>>>>> bulb
>>>>>  where
>>>>> the  one-way valve fails,  preventing  fuel draw by the engine.  The 
>>>>>   remedy
>>>>> is
>>>>> a ne primer bulb  which includes  the  valves.  Let's hope that it  is
>>>>>  simply
>>>>>  a
>>>>> clogged  tank vent.  Let me  know  what you find.  If it is a reliable  
>>>>>   engine
>>>>> otherwise, this is too simple a problem  to  deep  six it.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Mike
>>>>> s/v Shanghai'd  Summer   ('81)
>>>>> Nissequogue River,   NY
>>>>>
>>>>> From:   "MichaelT"  <mticse at gmail.com>Sent: Tuesday, September 02,  
2008   
>>>>> 12:33
>>>>>   PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a   Yamaha 8hp/2-Stroke  outboard that is continuing to  stall
>>>>>>  everytime   I
>>>>>> use it. The fix that I've had to perform while  the   outboard is
>>>>>> running  
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>   by
>>>>>>  continuing to squeeze/pump the primer  bulb every  30 secs or so. 
>>>>>>  Somehow
>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>  motor is not properly sucking in  the gas. All  hose clamps have  been
>>>>>> tightened w/ no obstruction  on   the gas tank side. Any  ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The  motor  is  20 years old. Hence, also considering getting   a
>>>>>>  Yamaha/Tohatsu
>>>>>>  replacement. I  like the Yamaha because of the  shift lever  being
>>>>>>  located
>>>>>>  at
>>>>>> the motor tiller   handle (and  electric start, remote control 
>>>>>>    capabilites),
>>>>>> the Tohatsu for its simplicity.  Looks like  2  strokes are outlawed,
>>>>>>  can't
>>>>>>  find them   anywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope   everyone had a good summer  sailing. I had a wonderful time  
>>>>>> thus
>>>>>>  far
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>  my   first year w/ my Rhodes and look forward to extending the season 
  
>>>>>> as
>>>>>>  far
>>>>>> as I    can!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Best,
>>>>>>    Michael
>>>>>> s/v Silverside
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