[Rhodes22-list] Topping Lift & Rudder Adjustments & Bill Effros said about Rummy comment on Caesars set up

R Orkin roryorkin at verizon.net
Tue Sep 9 09:15:55 EDT 2008


RE: Wife sailing familiarity course..
    Suggest starting out on  a Hobie 16 and flying the hull a few times .
Makes the Rhodes heel seem like an improvement :-) Workied for me ...



Bill Effros wrote:
> 
> Ed,
> 
> Mine, too.  But some people have lost the screws and replaced them with 
> bolts, not knowing they were originally screws that didn't go through.  
> Those people can't move their rudders back further than the amount shown 
> in the picture, and they can't figure out why you and I and Rummy can 
> make ours go further back.
> 
> BE
> 
> 
> 
> Tootle wrote:
>> Bill:
>>
>> On my boat the aft bolts are not bolts but short screws so as not to stop
>> the movement of the blade.
>>
>> I suspect that his is the same.  So blade should go back:
>>
>> Url :
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20080909/ba6c4998/attachment.jpg  
>>
>> Ed K
>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>
>>
>> Bill Effros wrote:
>>   
>>> Agreed, Rummy,
>>>
>>> On my boat the rudder will go forward from that position and it is a 
>>> benefit for ease of use.
>>>
>>> I believe the key is the aft bolt on the lower pintle.  If it goes 
>>> through, you can't move the rudder forward from the illustrated
>>> position.
>>>
>>> Bill Effros
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Caesar,
>>>> Look at the attached photo. I might be wrong, but it appears as though
>>>> the  
>>>> rudder can go forward more than it currently is. 
>>>>  
>>>> Rummy
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> In a message dated 9/8/2008 7:14:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
>>>> caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> Hi  rummy,
>>>>
>>>> Noticing my taut topping lift was keen observation on  your part.  I
>>>> have 
>>>> since been careful to ensure that it is slack enough  so as not to
>>>> influence sail 
>>>> shape.
>>>>
>>>> You need to tell me more about  correct rudder adjustment.  Stan
>>>> pointed
>>>> out 
>>>> to me that if the rudder is  correctly deployed you can steer the boat
>>>> with 
>>>> your finger.  I understand  correct deployment to mean down beyond
>>>> vertical, 
>>>> where the rudder is pointing  towards to the front or bow of the boat. 
>>>> That's 
>>>> overstating it, but you  get the picture.
>>>>
>>>> Is there some other rudder adjustment that I /  we new-bees need to
>>>> know 
>>>> about?
>>>> Inquiring minds want to know.  :  )
>>>>
>>>> Caesar
>>>> Gentle Breeze
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Mon, 9/8/08,  R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From:  R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>>>> Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Handling Gusts
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Date:  Monday, September 8, 2008, 8:59 AM
>>>>
>>>> Caesar,
>>>> Thanks for joining in.  During my search of my photos to show the
>>>> correct  
>>>> position of the  rudder, I came across the photo of your boat. Not only
>>>> did 
>>>> you 
>>>>
>>>> have  the topping lift still engaged, but your rudder is not in the
>>>> forward   
>>>> position. :)
>>>>
>>>> Rummy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 9/8/2008 11:55:29  A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
>>>> caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com  writes:
>>>>
>>>> What  this rookie does in gusts in head up into the wind  and the boat  
>>>> flattens.  After the gust passes I then fall away  back on course.  I 
>>>> am
>>>> yet 
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>> practice a next option which to  spill wind by releasing the main  sail
>>>> sheet.
>>>>
>>>> With six inches of  free-board there is still a lot  more thrill and 
>>>> excitement to be  had.  My admiral handles it like an old  salt.  I 
>>>> never
>>>> thought that 
>>>> sailing a Rhodes 22 would cause me to  grow in  admiration and
>>>> appreciation 
>>>> for 
>>>> my wife of 28 years.
>>>>
>>>> Over  the  weekend we had light winds on our lake.   I was sailing on
>>>> the   
>>>> lee 
>>>> for the entire duration, trying to be patient and experimenting   with 
>>>> different minute adjustments to the sails.  A knot-meter would  have 
>>>> told me 
>>>> instantly the wisdom or folly of my adjustment, but  that is yet to 
>>>> come.  I
>>>> had to 
>>>> rely on my  senses.
>>>>
>>>> Caesar
>>>> Gentle  Breeze 
>>>>
>>>> --- On Mon, 9/8/08, Lou  Rosenberg <lsr3 at nyu.edu>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Lou Rosenberg  <lsr3 at nyu.edu>
>>>> Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Handling  Gusts
>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"   <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Date: Monday, September 8, 2008,  7:29  AM
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> I dump wind first from main.  Then I  will head  up if need be,  
>>>> assuming I am on a close  reach.
>>>> constant gusting I  would let the traveler go to leeward to  assist in  
>>>> dumping  wind.
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>> s/v Miracles
>>>> standard  main with original roller  boom
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 8, 2008, at 10:29 AM,  MichaelT wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>>  We experienced approx 4-5 gusts of  wind in our 3 hour sail  
>>>>>  yesterday. I was
>>>>> just  imagining if our wives we're onboard how frantic  they would   
>>>>> have been.
>>>>>
>>>>> In those instances, the  weather helm  gave way to a heavy tiller  
>>>>> with the
>>>>> tiller   positioned at 45 degree to windward to remain on-course. I
>>>>> was
>>>>>   considering letting the main sheet out but the gusts all happen in    
>>>>> about
>>>>> 10-20 seconds and then disappears.
>>>>>
>>>>>  How  do you guys handle gusts of wind?
>>>>>
>>>>> Especially when  the gusts  causes heavy heeling (gunnel 6" from
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>> water)
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>>  Michael
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