[Rhodes22-list] 372 - Jim J a comment on pot shots (Political)(Non Sailing)

[Herb Parsons]

Ed,

I, for one, am glad that President Obama has "followed through" with his 
promise. I hope he follows through with more. As a matter of fact, my 
biggest disappointment with the man (other than he won) is that it 
appears that he may move further right than what he was when he ran. I 
want politicians to start doing what they say they'll do, and being the 
people that they promised (or implied) they would be.

Maybe 4 years (or however long he lasts in office) of President Obama 
doing the things he ran on will make some folks come to terms with what 
we've tried to do as a nation, and how wrong we've gone.

Yeah, it will cost us. Sometimes I think we're like spoiled kids, whose 
parents keep intervening for us so we don't have to pay the price for 
what we've done.



Tootle wrote:
> Jim said, "Taking Pop-Shots from the outside is not being part of the war."
> Jim also said, "Most of your message was about an event that happened "about
> a year ago.". Our new president had no control of that situation."
>
> Obama has made the past situation relevant by publically saying he wanted to
> close Gitmo within a year.  
>
> With past detainees who were returned to various countries there is a
> documented recidivism rate of about 10%.  
>
> So where are the current detainees going?  Understand that these for the
> most part are more problematic that many that were released in the past.
>
> The two places that they are mentioning are in USA.  They are Fort
> Leavenworth, Kansas and Charleston, South Carolina.  I do not want them in
> Charleston, South Carolina.  
>
> However, once they are inside USA then the rules of detainment change.  Are
> the eligible for U. S. Citizenship?  If yes, will they be able to vote?  Who
> is going to pay for all the litigation involved?  Will you volunteer?
>
> As you are aware this forum is left leaning.  A small minority who are not
> left leaning will not post publically.  I have received several back channel
> comments about my post.
>
> And some of the majority on this forum commented back channel:  “Obama kept
> his promise.  Good job”
>
> As you can imagine, I do not agree with the above, except the concept of
> keeping his word.  
>
> Rather, I think that when you are dealing with evil people.  There is a
> better method of dealing with evil.  I agree with the other comments that I
> received directly.  Such as, “Summarily shooting them? Gets my vote.”  I
> would point out that this method was endorsed by other Rhodies.
>
> Jim said, “(he) should use history to make the best decisions for the
> future.”  Yes, Yes, he should look at how General Black Jack Pershing
> handled an Islamic resurrection in the Philippines early in the 20th
> Century.  He captured 50 of the Islamic radicals and lined up 49 of the 50. 
> He had his men dip bullets into pigs’ blood and shot them.  He let the one
> go to tell others how he treated Islamic Resurrectionist.  
>
> So that is what we should do in Gitmo.  Only we should do it on TV and
> broadcast it worldwide.  
>
> It is important to understand those who have looked evil in the eye, those
> who have experienced terrorist, who have met those driven by malevolence. 
> Most Americans cannot conprehend that some people are that crue.  Most
> Americans are good people.  But not all people are good people, not all are
> your fellow Americans.  
>
> Ed K
>
>   

-- 
Herb Parsons