[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 1916, Issue 3
Ron Singerman
sail at tds.net
Tue Jul 14 21:43:32 EDT 2009
Deena,
I tried that and the gulls used the snake for target practice. My solution
was to choose a slip where the boats on either side of me had higher masts.
Amazing how the gulls preferred the higher masts to the exclusion of
Serenity.
Fair winds,
>>ron<<
S/V Serenity
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>
>
> In regards to the bird deposit problem; I took one of my son's old rubber
> snakes and put it on
>
> my Rhodes to keep the birds off my grill and it worked.
>
>
>
> Deena
>
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>
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> 1. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my newold Rhodes
> (david.walker5 at comcast.net)
> 2. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
> (Caesar Paul)
> 3. Re: Changing line on GBI furler (Claude Cox)
> 4. Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail (Caesar Paul)
> 5. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got mynewold Rhodes
> (Michael D. Weisner)
> 6. Re: Center Board Well Leak (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
> 7. Re: Center Board Well Leak (jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net)
> 8. Re: XM/GPS? (elle)
> 9. Re: Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
> 10. Re: Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail (Lowe, Rob)
> 11. raising the mast (Richard MacArthur)
> 12. Re: Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail (Arthur H. Czerwonky)
> 13. Boids-- stinkin rotten boids (R Orkin)
> 14. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
> (John Lock)
> 15. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
> (Arthur H. Czerwonky)
> 16. Re: Boids-- stinkin rotten boids (Michael D. Weisner)
> 17. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
> (Arthur H. Czerwonky)
> 18. Re: Boids-- stinkin rotten boids (Michael D. Weisner)
> 19. Re: Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail (Caesar Paul)
> 20. Re: Boids-- stinkin rotten boids (Arthur H. Czerwonky)
> 21. Re: raising the mast (Lowe, Rob)
> 22. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
> (Lowe, Rob)
> 23. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
> (John Lock)
> 24. Re: bilge water, or taking a leak (Stephen Staum)
> 25. Re: Boids-- stinkin rotten boids (Rick)
> 26. Re: Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail (Rick)
> 27. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
> (Ellner)
> 28. Re: Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail (Caesar Paul)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:36:55 +0000
> From: david.walker5 at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
> newold Rhodes
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> You got a great deal. I had to buy my copy.
>
> Dave
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:51:16
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new
> old Rhodes
>
>
> Yes, I have a copy. I received as small payment and a couple of
> copies as a contributor to the book. The book is still available. I
> believe I can still buy them at a slight discount as an "author". I
> haven't had much contact with Stan Grayson. I was supposed to get a
> second payment if it ever went into a second printing but don't know
> if it ever did. In any event, it was fun to do and I've had great
> positive feedback about the chapter both from the Rhodies on this
> list and from folks on the TSBB. Your boat ended up as a stand in for
> Fretless because I am such a lousy photographer.
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 Rhodes 22 Fretless
> Rock Hall, MD
>
> author of Chapter 5 in Sailing Small: Inspiration and Instruction for
> the Pocket Cruiser
> Edited by Stan Grayson, Devereux Books, 2004
>
>
>
> At 11:16 AM 7/14/2009, you wrote:
>>Mary Lou
>>
>>Did you ever get a copy of Stan Grayson's book with your chapter in it? My
>>boat was a photo standin for yours.
>>
>>
>>David Walker
>>
>>www.davidwalkerphotography.com
>>
>>Event Specialists
>>
>>781-639-2707 Office
>>781-718-8690 Cell
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>>To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:35 AM
>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old
>>Rhodes
>>
>>
>> > Art's comment got me thinking about Ron's walk-through stern rail
>> > giving better access to the swim ladder and the obstacle still in
>> > place with the traveller. Ron says it's not so much of an obstacle
>> > but if it was still an obstacle for someone, it would not be hard at
>> > anchor to loosen the backstay adjuster and pull the starboard fastpin
>> > holding the traveller in place and letting it drop down. Not sure it
>> > would be necessary but it seems to me it would only take a minute to
>> > do it and a minute to get the boat back ready to sail.
>> >
>> > Mary Lou
>> > 1991 R22 Fretless
>> > Rock Hall, MD
>> >
>> >
>> > At 09:27 PM 7/13/2009, you wrote:
>> >>Ron,
>> >>
>> >>Just look at this boat, and a '71. At this pace we will still have
>> >>vintage craft when we are in our 90's. Scary, isn't it? If you can
>> >>see the second picture - as pedestrian as this may sound, what is
>> >>wrong with the 'almost a traveler' approach. My sailing is not so
>> >>refined that the traveler bar is essential. Ponder whether an
>> >>arrangement like that wouldn't be more workable for you and Linda,
>> >>especially with your impressive new swim ladder walkway. Take that
>> >>a step further - what if you hung the clew onto the port aft shroud
>> >>(get the boom out of the way), used a clip-on for a rope traveler on
>> >>the stbd side (get the tripping obstacle out of the way) , and you
>> >>would have a dandy walk-thru (under the stbd aft shroud) directly
>> >>from the the swim ladder.
>> >>
>> >>Better find an aspirin...
>> >>
>> >>Art
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >> >From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>> >> >Sent: Jul 13, 2009 9:04 PM
>> >> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> >> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I just got my new old Rhodes
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Hi Jeff,
>> >> >
>> >> > Congrats on your boat, I'm enclosing picts on my 71 which has the
>> >> > original
>> >> >rigging as far as I know. I have also run the lines from the mast to
>> >> >the
>> >> >cockpit for easier single handling. On port side I have a downhaul
>> >> >line,
>> >> >and
>> >> >a cunningham line. The starboard side is the main halyard and genoa
>> >> >furler.
>> >> >Enclosed are picts.
>> >> >
>> >> >John Shulick
>> >> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0299.jpg
>> >> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0300.jpg
>> >> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0291.jpg
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >View this message in context:
>> >>
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>> >> >Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> >> >
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> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:13:59 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
> new old Rhodes
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <493491.21585.qm at web34507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> Mary Lou,
> ?
> I am following the discussions, and you make a good point about loosening
> the back stay at anchor for greater ease of access to and from the
> cockpit.
> ?
> It is a workout for me stepping over the stern rail when working on my
> boat at home, and I often will place a step ladder next to the boat for
> some relief.
> ?
> Ron,
> ?
> You did a very nice job with that stern rail modification, and thanks for
> sharing it with us.
> ?
> Caesar
> --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old
> Rhodes
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 6:35 AM
>
>
> Art's comment got me thinking about Ron's walk-through stern rail
> giving better access to the swim ladder and the obstacle still in
> place with the traveller. Ron says it's not so much of an obstacle
> but if it was still an obstacle for someone, it would not be hard at
> anchor to loosen the backstay adjuster and pull the starboard fastpin
> holding the traveller in place and letting it drop down. Not sure it
> would be necessary but it seems to me it would only take a minute to
> do it and a minute to get the boat back ready to sail.
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22? Fretless
> Rock Hall, MD
>
>
> At 09:27 PM 7/13/2009, you wrote:
>>Ron,
>>
>>Just look at this boat, and a '71.? At this pace we will still have
>>vintage craft when we are in our 90's.? Scary, isn't it?? If you can
>>see the second picture - as pedestrian as this may sound, what is
>>wrong with the 'almost a traveler' approach.? My sailing is not so
>>refined that the traveler bar is essential.? Ponder whether an
>>arrangement like that wouldn't be more workable for you and Linda,
>>especially with your impressive new swim ladder walkway.? Take that
>>a step further - what if you hung the clew onto the port aft shroud
>>(get the boom out of the way), used a clip-on for a rope traveler on
>>the stbd side (get the tripping obstacle out of the way) , and you
>>would have a dandy walk-thru (under the stbd aft shroud) directly
>>from the the swim ladder.
>>
>>Better find an aspirin...
>>
>>Art
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>> >From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>> >Sent: Jul 13, 2009 9:04 PM
>> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I just got my new old Rhodes
>> >
>> >
>> >Hi Jeff,
>> >
>> > Congrats on your boat, I'm enclosing picts on my 71 which has the
>> > original
>> >rigging as far as I know. I have also run the lines from the mast to the
>> >cockpit for easier single handling. On port side I have a downhaul line,
>> >and
>> >a cunningham line. The starboard side is the main halyard and genoa
>> >furler.
>> >Enclosed are picts.
>> >
>> >John Shulick
>> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0299.jpg
>> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0300.jpg
>> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0291.jpg
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >View this message in context:
>> http://www.nabble.com/I-just-got-my-new-old-Rhodes-tp24450961p24472095.html
>> >Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> >
>> >__________________________________________________
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:55:47 -0400
> From: "Claude Cox" <ccc974 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Changing line on GBI furler
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <005801ca04ac$54c73d70$0202a8c0 at DBMCXV81>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Hi David;
>
> Just wanted to let you know that I have a new furler line now. Your
> description of what to expect was right on target. Thanks for your
> assistance.
>
> Claude
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Culp" <dculp at hsbtx.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Changing line on GBI furler
>
>
>> Claude:
>>
>> I don't know which furler you have since Rummy's description didn't
>> ring a bell, but my 1998 has the old GBI furler with the grooved luff
>> tube and the exposed furler barrel. The furler bottom cap rides atop
>> a hollow bearing which is mounted on the forestay line and sits on top
>> of the swagged fitting. If yours is like mine, to replace the line you
>> need to remove the bottom cap exposing the inside of the furling tube.
>> It comes apart in several pieces (3 if I remember correctly). Force
>> the knot that secures the line back through the bottom of the luff
>> tube and cut it off so that you can remove the old line. You may need
>> a long pair of needle nose pliers to get at it. Then insert the new
>> line into the hole in the furling barrel and out of the bottom of the
>> tube. Tie a new knot and pull the knot back up inside the tube to
>> secure it. I had the mast down when I did it, so it was easy. You
>> could do it with the mast up, but you will need someone or something
>> to hold the furler up off the bearing while you take the bottom cap
>> off. Once you get the bottom cap back together, you may want to add a
>> screw-down clamp around the bottom to hold the two pieces (where the
>> bearing rides) together more securely. Mine is 11 years old and still
>> works fine with the addition of the clamp. I actually prefer this
>> furler to some of the new ones because of its simplicity.
>>
>> Anyway, be sure to replace the line with the same size so that you can
>> get it to pass through the present holes and feeder block. Another
>> concern is when the line rolls onto the furler barrel-a line with too
>> large a diameter may exceed the barrel capacity and we know what fun
>> it is to the have the line come off the barrel and loop around the
>> forestay while sailing. :-) Hope this helped.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:22:11 -0400
>> From: "Claude Cox" <ccc974 at comcast.net>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Changing line on gbi furler
>> To: "Rhodes22 list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Message-ID: <000a01c9fa81$3f8e37e0$0202a8c0 at DBMCXV81>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hello Everyone;
>>
>> The sheathing on the furling line of the 175 is chafed through, and I
>> need to replace it. What is the procedure for doing that. I have
>> checked the archives, but got no help.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Claude
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:21:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
> To: Rhodes List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <791117.74854.qm at web34503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi Guys,
> ?
> I am responding to Arthur's gentle prompting to send evidence that our
> fleet sail really happened.
> ?
> In the first picture, Steve Jacobs and I are preparing our boat for launch
> at Washington Park in Fidalgo Head, a few miles from Anacortes.
> ?
> The second picture is yours truly with Steve in the background.? These
> were taken while crossing Rosario Straight on our way to the southern tip
> of Lopez Island.
> ?
> It was an exciting, but not incident free trip.
> ?
> Caesar Paul
> Gentle Breeze
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:01:19 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got
> mynewold Rhodes
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <4DD975F92CBD4E2592E2A2F32B511741 at ebsoffice>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type="original"
>
> If anyone is interested, they are still available on Amazon:
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/192886208X/ref=cm_rdp_product
>
> Sailing Small: Inspiration and Instruction for the Pocket Cruiser
> (Paperback)
> by Stan Grayson (Editor)
> ISBN-10: 192886208X
> $12.71
> (or $9.44 + $3.99 shipping from A1Books via Amazon)
>
> (and in Japan!! at 1,521 Yen from:
> https://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/guest/cgi-bin/booksea.cgi?W-AUTHOR=Grayson%2C+Stan )
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <david.walker5 at comcast.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got
> mynewold
> Rhodes
>
>
>> You got a great deal. I had to buy my copy.
>>
>> Dave
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:51:16
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
>> new
>> old Rhodes
>>
>>
>> Yes, I have a copy. I received as small payment and a couple of
>> copies as a contributor to the book. The book is still available. I
>> believe I can still buy them at a slight discount as an "author". I
>> haven't had much contact with Stan Grayson. I was supposed to get a
>> second payment if it ever went into a second printing but don't know
>> if it ever did. In any event, it was fun to do and I've had great
>> positive feedback about the chapter both from the Rhodies on this
>> list and from folks on the TSBB. Your boat ended up as a stand in for
>> Fretless because I am such a lousy photographer.
>>
>> Mary Lou
>> 1991 Rhodes 22 Fretless
>> Rock Hall, MD
>>
>> author of Chapter 5 in Sailing Small: Inspiration and Instruction for
>> the Pocket Cruiser
>> Edited by Stan Grayson, Devereux Books, 2004
>>
>>
>>
>> At 11:16 AM 7/14/2009, you wrote:
>>>Mary Lou
>>>
>>>Did you ever get a copy of Stan Grayson's book with your chapter in it?
>>>My
>>>boat was a photo standin for yours.
>>>
>>>
>>>David Walker
>>>
>>>www.davidwalkerphotography.com
>>>
>>>Event Specialists
>>>
>>>781-639-2707 Office
>>>781-718-8690 Cell
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>>>To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:35 AM
>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new
>>>old
>>>Rhodes
>>>
>>>
>>> > Art's comment got me thinking about Ron's walk-through stern rail
>>> > giving better access to the swim ladder and the obstacle still in
>>> > place with the traveller. Ron says it's not so much of an obstacle
>>> > but if it was still an obstacle for someone, it would not be hard at
>>> > anchor to loosen the backstay adjuster and pull the starboard fastpin
>>> > holding the traveller in place and letting it drop down. Not sure it
>>> > would be necessary but it seems to me it would only take a minute to
>>> > do it and a minute to get the boat back ready to sail.
>>> >
>>> > Mary Lou
>>> > 1991 R22 Fretless
>>> > Rock Hall, MD
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > At 09:27 PM 7/13/2009, you wrote:
>>> >>Ron,
>>> >>
>>> >>Just look at this boat, and a '71. At this pace we will still have
>>> >>vintage craft when we are in our 90's. Scary, isn't it? If you can
>>> >>see the second picture - as pedestrian as this may sound, what is
>>> >>wrong with the 'almost a traveler' approach. My sailing is not so
>>> >>refined that the traveler bar is essential. Ponder whether an
>>> >>arrangement like that wouldn't be more workable for you and Linda,
>>> >>especially with your impressive new swim ladder walkway. Take that
>>> >>a step further - what if you hung the clew onto the port aft shroud
>>> >>(get the boom out of the way), used a clip-on for a rope traveler on
>>> >>the stbd side (get the tripping obstacle out of the way) , and you
>>> >>would have a dandy walk-thru (under the stbd aft shroud) directly
>>> >>from the the swim ladder.
>>> >>
>>> >>Better find an aspirin...
>>> >>
>>> >>Art
>>> >>
>>> >>-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>>> >> >Sent: Jul 13, 2009 9:04 PM
>>> >> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> >> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I just got my new old Rhodes
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Hi Jeff,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Congrats on your boat, I'm enclosing picts on my 71 which has the
>>> >> > original
>>> >> >rigging as far as I know. I have also run the lines from the mast to
>>> >> >the
>>> >> >cockpit for easier single handling. On port side I have a downhaul
>>> >> >line,
>>> >> >and
>>> >> >a cunningham line. The starboard side is the main halyard and genoa
>>> >> >furler.
>>> >> >Enclosed are picts.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >John Shulick
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> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:02:28 EDT
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Center Board Well Leak
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> David,
> Nope, no Kabooms. RumRunner has been on the hard for a little over a year
> now. Our lake decided to all but disappear and then suddenly reappear this
> spring. Hartwell dropped an amazing 23 feet before the Army Corps decided
> to
> fill it back up. We are still currently four feet below full pool, but
> three years of draught conditions really hurt. I took advantage of the low
> water and had her repainted. I have a couple of additional upgrades and
> things
> to take care of and then she will be back in the water.....soon I hope.
> Work seems to be getting in the way of working on her.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 7/14/2009 11:26:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> david.walker5 at comcast.net writes:
>
> Rummy,
>
> Glad to be back. BTW how's your gas tank? Any Kabooms yet?
>
> As for the UHMWPE, there is a lot of it on my boat clearly from the
> factory.
> The pop top slider, boom slider and most of the outboard mount. Any way
> thats not the point. I just wanted to let people know what they might
> find.
>
> The kneeling to get the cap off was fun. I used tile layers neepads and
> that helped a lot. The tough part was getting the backing wrench on the
> bolt heads under the flange.
>
>
> David Walker
>
> www.davidwalkerphotography.com
>
> Event Specialists
>
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> 781-718-8690 Cell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 4:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Center Board Well Leak
>
>
>> Dave,
>> Welcome back to the list. Finding leaks can be a real problem when there
>> are previous owners possibly involved. I have been inside five
> centerboard
>> trunks over the years and everyone one is different. No two were
>> identical.
>> Previous owners or who knows who had been changes to the pulley systems
>> and
>> parts that operate the centerboard. I can pretty much assure you that the
>> use of UHMWPE was not a factory fix. Glad you were able to make the
>> repair
>> once you knew the problem. Working in that area certainly is not fun. I
>> can't kneel for extended periods anymore. Old age is beginning to take
>> it's
>> toll on my poor abused body.
>>
>> Rummy
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 7/13/2009 3:43:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> david.walker5 at comcast.net writes:
>>
>> Greetings to the list.
>>
>> I haven't been active on the list for a few years but have been actively
>> sailing my boat, Windswept, out of Salem harbor in MA. I re-signed up to
>> share with you all something I found this spring that I think should be
>> brought to all owners attention.
>>
>> For the 11 years I have owned my R22 (bought from Stan in 1998 as
>> recycled) I have been fighting a slow leak. Many helpful suggestions
>> pointed at
>> rainwater leaks, which I did have and were mostly fixed. However there
> was
>> a
>> consistent salt water leak that I could not find. I pretty easily ruled
>> out
>> the thru hulls and was left with the centerboard well. Two years ago I
>> removed the cap and cleaned the mating surfaces, replaced the fender
>> washers and
>> removed a small block that was through bolted to the top of the cap (part
>> of the 4:1 board raising tackle). This didn't make any change.
>>
>> Last summer returning to the boat (at her mooring) after a weeks
> absence
>> I
>> found water about a foot above the sole. The battery was under water and
>> completely shorted out. Its unclear whether the bilge pump failed or the
>> increasing leak rate caused the pump to discharge the battery. Anyway, I
>> limped to the local marina where I winter store, pumped out the bilge
>> with a
>> home sump pump, had an emergency haul and had it blocked for the
> winter.
>> (I
>> was pretty discouraged and was about to leave on a 3 week trip).
>>
>> This spring I resolved to find the leak once and for all. When I opened
>> the boat I found a little rain water in the bilge but nothing was
> leaking
>> out. I filled the bilge to above the cap and a steady trickle started
> to
>> run
>> out of the aft end of the CB slot. I lowered the water with a pump to
>> just
>> below the cap seal and the trickle continued. I lowered the water level
>> to
>> about halfway from the cap to the bilge and the trickle stopped. Very
>> strange. This eliminated the cap seal and the pennant thru hull as a
>> leak.
>>
>> I removed the cap (fun job) and carefully inspected the inside of the
>> well. At the aft end I found a piece of UHMWP in the shape of an upside
>> down V
>> wedged from side to side at the top of the well. My guess is its job is
>> as
>> a seat for the top of the CB when it is up to keep it from moving side
> to
>> side. The critical thing is that this piece was screwed in place with
>> long
>> screws from the top of the piece, diagonally down through the side of
> the
>> well from inside to outside. The tips of the screws were actually
> though
>> the
>> outside of the well about halfway up from the blige to the cap. After
>> years
>> of the board banging into this, the screws had loosened in the fiber
>> glass
>> and I could literally just pull them out with my hand. These screws were
>> loose in their holes had provided literally two holes in the bottom of
>> the
>> boat. I took them out, dried out the area, ground it down and patched
>> with
>> epoxy and two layers of glass inside and out.
>>
>> My point in this post is that this may or may not have been done at the
>> factory and I'm not blaming anyone, but it was present in my hull. If
>> anyone
>> has a slow leak in this area, it would be worthwile to check it out,
> and
>> if
>> you pull your cap for any reason definetely check it. Now I just have
> to
>> finish all those pesky port light rain leaks!!
>>
>>
>> Dave Walker
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:04:17 -0400
> From: jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Center Board Well Leak
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <20090714150417.o864cvpanuu8k88g at webmail2.centurytel.net>
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> David, Thank you for your input. Last fall I had our R-22 up in a
> lift. The CB lifting line broke and allowed the CB to drop down under
> the boat. The boat was elevated on the lift out of the water but not
> high enough. When large waves rolled into the shore the boat was lifted
> up and off the lift crade. This alloewd the CB to drop all of the way
> down into a vertical position. When the wave rolled past the lift the
> boat floated back down and the CB in a vertical position was pushed up
> through the CB trunk cap. I had leaks in the CB cap years ago and
> replaced all of the screws (52) with #10-32x1-1/2" stainless steel
> bolts and nuts. I added a neoprene gasket and washers on both the top
> and bottom of the CB trunk flang. I also removed the 4:1 pulleys in the
> trunk and on the CB. I still have some water in the CB well area. I'm
> not sure if it is draining down into this area from other areas of the
> boat i.e. under cock-pit floor, thru-hull fittings etc. I could feel
> better about my CB staying up with better a cleating system for the
> lifting line. Replacing the lifting line is much easier without the 4:1
> pulley system. I am open for ideas for the CB lifting line cleat. Jim J
>
> Quoting David Walker <david.walker5 at comcast.net>:
>> Rummy,
>>
>> Glad to be back. BTW how's your gas tank? Any Kabooms yet?
>>
>> As for the UHMWPE, there is a lot of it on my boat clearly from the
>> factory.
>> The pop top slider, boom slider and most of the outboard mount. Any way
>> thats not the point. I just wanted to let people know what they might
>> find.
>>
>> The kneeling to get the cap off was fun. I used tile layers neepads and
>> that helped a lot. The tough part was getting the backing wrench on the
>> bolt heads under the flange.
>>
>>
>> David Walker
>>
>> www.davidwalkerphotography.com
>>
>> Event Specialists
>>
>> 781-639-2707 Office
>> 781-718-8690 Cell
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 4:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Center Board Well Leak
>>
>>
>> > Dave,
>> > Welcome back to the list. Finding leaks can be a real problem when
>> > there
>> > are previous owners possibly involved. I have been inside five
>> > centerboard
>> > trunks over the years and everyone one is different. No two were
>> > identical.
>> > Previous owners or who knows who had been changes to the pulley systems
>> > and
>> > parts that operate the centerboard. I can pretty much assure you that
>> > the
>> > use of UHMWPE was not a factory fix. Glad you were able to make the
>> > repair
>> > once you knew the problem. Working in that area certainly is not fun. I
>> > can't kneel for extended periods anymore. Old age is beginning to take
>> > it's
>> > toll on my poor abused body.
>> >
>> > Rummy
>> >
>> >
>> > In a message dated 7/13/2009 3:43:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> > david.walker5 at comcast.net writes:
>> >
>> > Greetings to the list.
>> >
>> > I haven't been active on the list for a few years but have been
>> > actively
>> > sailing my boat, Windswept, out of Salem harbor in MA. I re-signed up
>> > to
>> > share with you all something I found this spring that I think should be
>> > brought to all owners attention.
>> >
>> > For the 11 years I have owned my R22 (bought from Stan in 1998 as
>> > recycled) I have been fighting a slow leak. Many helpful suggestions
>> > pointed at
>> > rainwater leaks, which I did have and were mostly fixed. However there
>> > was
>> > a
>> > consistent salt water leak that I could not find. I pretty easily ruled
>> > out
>> > the thru hulls and was left with the centerboard well. Two years ago I
>> > removed the cap and cleaned the mating surfaces, replaced the fender
>> > washers and
>> > removed a small block that was through bolted to the top of the cap
>> > (part
>> > of the 4:1 board raising tackle). This didn't make any change.
>> >
>> > Last summer returning to the boat (at her mooring) after a weeks
>> > absence
>> > I
>> > found water about a foot above the sole. The battery was under water
>> > and
>> > completely shorted out. Its unclear whether the bilge pump failed or
>> > the
>> > increasing leak rate caused the pump to discharge the battery. Anyway,
>> > I
>> > limped to the local marina where I winter store, pumped out the bilge
>> > with a
>> > home sump pump, had an emergency haul and had it blocked for the
>> > winter.
>> > (I
>> > was pretty discouraged and was about to leave on a 3 week trip).
>> >
>> > This spring I resolved to find the leak once and for all. When I opened
>> > the boat I found a little rain water in the bilge but nothing was
>> > leaking
>> > out. I filled the bilge to above the cap and a steady trickle started
>> > to
>> > run
>> > out of the aft end of the CB slot. I lowered the water with a pump to
>> > just
>> > below the cap seal and the trickle continued. I lowered the water level
>> > to
>> > about halfway from the cap to the bilge and the trickle stopped. Very
>> > strange. This eliminated the cap seal and the pennant thru hull as a
>> > leak.
>> >
>> > I removed the cap (fun job) and carefully inspected the inside of the
>> > well. At the aft end I found a piece of UHMWP in the shape of an upside
>> > down V
>> > wedged from side to side at the top of the well. My guess is its job is
>> > as
>> > a seat for the top of the CB when it is up to keep it from moving side
>> > to
>> > side. The critical thing is that this piece was screwed in place with
>> > long
>> > screws from the top of the piece, diagonally down through the side of
>> > the
>> > well from inside to outside. The tips of the screws were actually
>> > though
>> > the
>> > outside of the well about halfway up from the blige to the cap. After
>> > years
>> > of the board banging into this, the screws had loosened in the fiber
>> > glass
>> > and I could literally just pull them out with my hand. These screws
>> > were
>> > loose in their holes had provided literally two holes in the bottom of
>> > the
>> > boat. I took them out, dried out the area, ground it down and patched
>> > with
>> > epoxy and two layers of glass inside and out.
>> >
>> > My point in this post is that this may or may not have been done at the
>> > factory and I'm not blaming anyone, but it was present in my hull. If
>> > anyone
>> > has a slow leak in this area, it would be worthwile to check it out,
>> > and
>> > if
>> > you pull your cap for any reason definetely check it. Now I just have
>> > to
>> > finish all those pesky port light rain leaks!!
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave Walker
>> >
>> > __________________________________________________
>> > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to
>> > http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> > __________________________________________________
>> >
>> >
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>> > on
>> > tour at TourTracker.com.
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:04:18 -0700 (PDT)
> From: elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] XM/GPS?
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> Yes, John's analysis did have a the ring of sense to it.
> It was a weird event, though.....
> thanks to Ben & John & all for the analyses..
>
> elle
>
> Beer is good....people are crazy
>
> 1992 Rhodes 22 ? ?Recycled '06"Watermusic" ?{Lady in Red}
>
> --- On Mon, 7/13/09, Ben Schultz <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>
> wrote:
>
> From: Ben Schultz <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] XM/GPS?
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 4:13 PM
>
> I think John's explanation is probably the one that makes sense -- the
> unit
> could have used a cell phone network to make the call.? I also doubt that
> it
> has the power or proper antenna to beam your info to a satellite.? I don't
> think the people at XM get the data on what & when you're listening.? Past
> attempts to drop stations only to have a scramble to get them back up make
> me feel fairly certain of that.
>
> (Tivo, on the other hand, let's the mother ship know all about what you're
> watching, when you're watching it, preferences you mark, etc.? Their
> policy
> says so plain as can be.? Supposedly, they don't associate that data with
> your personal account, but I'm sure the connection can be made.)
>
> I've got an XM unit like Rummy's that I used to carry around in my pocket.
> I fight a lot of tree cover in my yard and neighborhood, so I've quit
> using
> it for the most part. I noticed last week that they've come out with an
> Iphone app that streams the music over an internet connection, so I might
> start using that as the alternative.? I should be able to get high quality
> sound when I'm in range of the home wireless, but I wouldn't expect as
> good
> when I'm using the cell phone network.? Probably stick with the antenna at
> the sky method for sailing.
>
> Ben
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of elle
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 21:14
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] XM/GPS?
>
> No, Rory..it happened.Just as I said. No elaboration.
> elle
>
> Beer is good....people are crazy
>
> 1992 Rhodes 22 ? ?Recycled '06"Watermusic" ?{Lady in Red}
>
> --- On Sun, 7/12/09, R Orkin <roryorkin at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> From: R Orkin <roryorkin at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] XM/GPS?
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 6:47 PM
>
>
> By what medium could xm possibly "call home" ?
> It has no transmit capability other than short range FM so it can be heard
> on the car radio
> There is no tie in to a specific car or anything of that nature..
> I even have one on my riding mower.
> I suspect your friend may have gotten a call from a neighbor who saw her
> move it and was playing a prank.
> What you have described is quite impossible
> ? ? ? ? ???Rory
>
>
> Lady in Red wrote:
>>
>>
>> ?An interesting event happened to a friend of mine; I wondered if anyone
>> here knew how this could happen:
>> ?
>> She had bought an XM radio (not a very high-end one) and was doing the
>> installation process in her car as instructed.
>> ?
>> She (for some reason I do not know) moved the radio during the setup to
>> another vehicle not far away ( maybe 20 ' or so).
>> ?
>> Within minutes, XM CALLED HER to inquire as to why she had moved the
>> radio
>> TO ANOTHER VEHICLE.
>> ?
>> THe radio must communicate with satellite, as you have to give them the
>> unique identifier code for your radio; but what is baffling is that they
>> knew that it was in another vehicle.
>> ?
>> A conundrum for a slow afternoon at the docks..
>> ?
>> ;^)
>> ?
>> elle
>>
>>
>>? ? ???
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:09:16 EDT
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> Caesar,
>
> What is with the whimpy looking life vest. Do you really think you might
> fall overboard.....out of a Rhodes? And where is the rum filled alcoholic
> adult beverage that's supposed to be in your empty hand? You really have a
> lot
> to learn about proper sailing technique. I have a lot of work in front of
> me.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 7/14/2009 2:22:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com writes:
>
> Caesar Paul
>
> **************Summer concert season is here! Find your favorite artists on
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:50:51 -0400
> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> Caesar,
> I see you responded to Art's gentle prompting. Hope there are more
> pictures and stories coming. And pay no attention to Rummy, he's just
> grumpy because his boat's on the hard and he's been relegated to
> drinking on his dock. - rob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
> R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:09 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
>
> Caesar,
>
> What is with the whimpy looking life vest. Do you really think you might
>
> fall overboard.....out of a Rhodes? And where is the rum filled
> alcoholic
> adult beverage that's supposed to be in your empty hand? You really
> have a lot
> to learn about proper sailing technique. I have a lot of work in front
> of
> me.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 7/14/2009 2:22:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com writes:
>
> Caesar Paul
>
> **************Summer concert season is here! Find your favorite artists
> on
> tour at TourTracker.com.
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:15:30 -0400
> From: "Richard MacArthur" <Richard at MacArthurLawFirm.com>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] raising the mast
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>
> Well I got it done for the first time. There was me with my 75 year old
> bones, my co- owner with his 150 pounds and my 6 foot 4 inch 250 pound
> son in law. I didn't feel much weight while pushing up nor did my co-
> owner so I may have found that mythical "one man" who could do it by
> himself (he was a shotputter in college).
>
>
>
> Finally got out for a sail on Sunday and was happy with the way the boat
> sails. I've owned a lot of different sailboats and this one sails with
> the best of them. I had light to medium winds. Looks like it will have
> lee helm in very light winds and balance almost hands off in medium
> winds. I have the mast raked back a little and could rake it back some
> more if the lee helm were a problem but I like it the way it is.
>
>
>
> I had to have the mainsail repaired before I launched the boat (named
> Eagle's Wing ). The luff of the main had rotted for about 2 inches.
> This must be that which is exposed to the sun when the sail is furled
> inside the mast. Has anyone else had this problem? The repair was to put
> a patch on the entire length of the luff and I'd like to protect the
> furled main from the sun if there were an easy way to do this. On the
> other hand maybe it's not a problem. I don't know how long the mast with
> the sail inside might have sat on land uncovered and that won't happen
> again. Happy sailing, Richard.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:36:57 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
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>
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>
> Caesar,
>
> I like the pictures, especially of that dude that looks like a Rhodes
> skipper. The other picture, I just don't know. Those trees and ramp look
> like a scene from Blacksburg VA, at a lake nearby. Whatya say, Rob and
> Rummy - what "proof' do we really need to have. Is 90 Proof adequate, if
> the brand is right, or course. I've always heard you have to watch those
> Norwesterns...
>
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
>>Sent: Jul 14, 2009 2:21 PM
>>To: Rhodes List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
>>
>>Hi Guys,
>>?
>>I am responding to Arthur's gentle prompting to send evidence that our
>>fleet sail really happened.
>>?
>>In the first picture, Steve Jacobs and I are preparing our boat for launch
>>at Washington Park in Fidalgo Head, a few miles from Anacortes.
>>?
>>The second picture is yours truly with Steve in the background.? These
>>were taken while crossing Rosario Straight on our way to the southern tip
>>of Lopez Island.
>>?
>>It was an exciting, but not incident free trip.
>>?
>>Caesar Paul
>>Gentle Breeze
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:37:17 -0700 (PDT)
> From: R Orkin <roryorkin at verizon.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <24486963.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Seems that the water birds love to sit on my boat on the lift and feast on
> fish leaving all sorts of deposits and a total mess.. I have considered
> putting a tarp over the boom sort of like a dodger to try and stop this.
> Anyone have any other ideas ??
> Rory
>
>
> -----
> Rory Orkin
> Tilghman, Md
> 2000 Recycled Rhodes 22
> Duet ll
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/Boids---stinkin-rotten-boids-tp24486963p24486963.html
> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:40:38 -0400
> From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
> new old Rhodes
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <7DF66A15-C381-406B-ABA5-9E8EBFCF6701 at relevantarts.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> FYI, that same concept can be used on the water. I converted to using
> a boarding ladder hung over the side, rather than trying to negotiate/
> modify the stern gear or disconnect it to get it out of the way. It's
> much easier on the boarder and you don't have to reconnect and
> readjust hardware to get under way. The folding ladder stores neatly
> under the cockpit seats.
>
> Cheers!
> John Lock
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
> Lake Sinclair, GA
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2009, at 13:13, Caesar Paul wrote:
>> Mary Lou,
>>
>> I am following the discussions, and you make a good point about
>> loosening the back stay at anchor for greater ease of access to and
>> from the cockpit.
>>
>> It is a workout for me stepping over the stern rail when working on
>> my boat at home, and I often will place a step ladder next to the
>> boat for some relief.
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>> You did a very nice job with that stern rail modification, and
>> thanks for sharing it with us.
>>
>> Caesar
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:49:33 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
> new old Rhodes
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <21454512.1247604573946.JavaMail.root at elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Caesar,
>
> I suggested another item to Ron which might be of value for general
> consumption - when climbing the swim ladder, having a handhold when you
> get toward the top of the ladder and step onto the transom surface is
> mighty helpful for stability. A simple option could be to suspend a grip
> from the clew on a 2' or so cable or heavy line, with 6" SS tube piece
> oriented to be horizontal. I used a small tube piece from BR extras and it
> works like a charm. It just makes it a little more steady climbing into
> the boat.
>
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
>>Sent: Jul 14, 2009 1:13 PM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new
>>old Rhodes
>>
>>Mary Lou,
>>?
>>I am following the discussions, and you make a good point about loosening
>>the back stay at anchor for greater ease of access to and from the
>>cockpit.
>>?
>>It is a workout for me stepping over the stern rail when working on my
>>boat at home, and I often will place a step ladder next to the boat for
>>some relief.
>>?
>>Ron,
>>?
>>You did a very nice job with that stern rail modification, and thanks for
>>sharing it with us.
>>?
>>Caesar
>>--- On Tue, 7/14/09, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old
>>Rhodes
>>To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 6:35 AM
>>
>>
>>Art's comment got me thinking about Ron's walk-through stern rail
>>giving better access to the swim ladder and the obstacle still in
>>place with the traveller. Ron says it's not so much of an obstacle
>>but if it was still an obstacle for someone, it would not be hard at
>>anchor to loosen the backstay adjuster and pull the starboard fastpin
>>holding the traveller in place and letting it drop down. Not sure it
>>would be necessary but it seems to me it would only take a minute to
>>do it and a minute to get the boat back ready to sail.
>>
>>Mary Lou
>>1991 R22? Fretless
>>Rock Hall, MD
>>
>>
>>At 09:27 PM 7/13/2009, you wrote:
>>>Ron,
>>>
>>>Just look at this boat, and a '71.? At this pace we will still have
>>>vintage craft when we are in our 90's.? Scary, isn't it?? If you can
>>>see the second picture - as pedestrian as this may sound, what is
>>>wrong with the 'almost a traveler' approach.? My sailing is not so
>>>refined that the traveler bar is essential.? Ponder whether an
>>>arrangement like that wouldn't be more workable for you and Linda,
>>>especially with your impressive new swim ladder walkway.? Take that
>>>a step further - what if you hung the clew onto the port aft shroud
>>>(get the boom out of the way), used a clip-on for a rope traveler on
>>>the stbd side (get the tripping obstacle out of the way) , and you
>>>would have a dandy walk-thru (under the stbd aft shroud) directly
>>>from the the swim ladder.
>>>
>>>Better find an aspirin...
>>>
>>>Art
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>>> >Sent: Jul 13, 2009 9:04 PM
>>> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I just got my new old Rhodes
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Hi Jeff,
>>> >
>>> > Congrats on your boat, I'm enclosing picts on my 71 which has the
>>> > original
>>> >rigging as far as I know. I have also run the lines from the mast to
>>> >the
>>> >cockpit for easier single handling. On port side I have a downhaul
>>> >line, and
>>> >a cunningham line. The starboard side is the main halyard and genoa
>>> >furler.
>>> >Enclosed are picts.
>>> >
>>> >John Shulick
>>> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0299.jpg
>>> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0300.jpg
>>> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0291.jpg
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >--
>>> >View this message in context:
>>> http://www.nabble.com/I-just-got-my-new-old-Rhodes-tp24450961p24472095.html
>>> >Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>> >
>>> >__________________________________________________
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>>>
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>>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:51:01 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <60FC86259BEF4D0BAEC7D3D8154CB271 at ebsoffice>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Below is an excerpt from the archives (thread:Organic deck deposits,
> http://www.nabble.com/Organic-deck-deposits-to21511058.html#a21549141).
> I use Nixalite for birds, squirrels, etc. It is simple and it works really
> well:
>
> Why go to the trouble of using high tech, powered deterrents?
> Just be a poor host to these birds and they will choose a more
> comfortable boat to hang out. For years I have been successful
> at ridding my R22. and several other sailboats. of cormorants
> (sea crows) by using Nixalite bird spikes atop the mast
> (http://www.nixalite.com/nixalitemodels.aspx).
>
> Before raising the mast, drill a couple of small holes (1/8", I
> think) as described in the Nixalite installation instructions in
> the masthead (top) to secure the clips that hold a small portion
> of the product to the masthead with short stainless self-tapping
> screws. The spikes stick straight up when the mast is stepped
> (be careful of VHF aerial and Windex, if so equipped) and do
> not interfere with the sail. Additionally, I use a couple of pieces
> of 20 to 30 pound test monofilament line strung from the mast
> to the side stays, starting an inch or so above each spreader.
> This prevents the birds from roosting on the top of the spreaders
> as well.
>
> Obviously, this does not work if the birds tend to sit on the
> deck, rails, boom or bimini. For this problem, you may need
> to be more creative or temporarily place monofilament line at
> appropriate locations to be removed when the boat is occupied.
> The time spent setting up and removing the deterrents is a
> fraction of the time necessary to constantly clean up after the
> birds.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "R Orkin" <roryorkin at verizon.net>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:37 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
>
>
>>
>> Seems that the water birds love to sit on my boat on the lift and feast
>> on
>> fish leaving all sorts of deposits and a total mess.. I have considered
>> putting a tarp over the boom sort of like a dodger to try and stop this.
>> Anyone have any other ideas ??
>> Rory
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Rory Orkin
>> Tilghman, Md
>> 2000 Recycled Rhodes 22
>> Duet ll
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://www.nabble.com/Boids---stinkin-rotten-boids-tp24486963p24486963.html
>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>> __________________________________________________
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>> __________________________________________________
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:54:52 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
> new old Rhodes
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <1258084.1247604892225.JavaMail.root at elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> John,
>
> Be careful where you put the ladder if it is other than a rope ladder,
> which I suspect. Your boat had major hull rebuild by Rodger Rookie before
> I bought it from him, and there are some weak spots. Does that really work
> well, given that the hull is concave vs. convex?
>
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
>>Sent: Jul 14, 2009 4:40 PM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new
>>old Rhodes
>>
>>FYI, that same concept can be used on the water. I converted to using
>>a boarding ladder hung over the side, rather than trying to negotiate/
>>modify the stern gear or disconnect it to get it out of the way. It's
>>much easier on the boarder and you don't have to reconnect and
>>readjust hardware to get under way. The folding ladder stores neatly
>>under the cockpit seats.
>>
>>Cheers!
>>John Lock
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>Lake Sinclair, GA
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>On Jul 14, 2009, at 13:13, Caesar Paul wrote:
>>> Mary Lou,
>>>
>>> I am following the discussions, and you make a good point about
>>> loosening the back stay at anchor for greater ease of access to and
>>> from the cockpit.
>>>
>>> It is a workout for me stepping over the stern rail when working on
>>> my boat at home, and I often will place a step ladder next to the
>>> boat for some relief.
>>>
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> You did a very nice job with that stern rail modification, and
>>> thanks for sharing it with us.
>>>
>>> Caesar
>>
>>__________________________________________________
>>To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to
>>http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>__________________________________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:56:22 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <473365CD732F41FEA50F59521B47A8E2 at ebsoffice>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Rory,
>
> Also, be careful with the materials used to clean up after the birds.
> Avoid
> bleaches and abrasives since bleach is toxic to aquatic environments and
> abrasives will harm the gel coat. If you want a "scouring powder", use
> baking soda. To safely bleach, use hydrogen peroxide.
>
> The following are some common alternatives to harsh chemicals:
>
> Toxic product Alternative
> ----------------- -------------
>
> Detergent and soap Fresh water and a lot of elbow grease
> Bleach Hydrogen peroxide
> Scouring powders Baking soda or salt
> Floor cleaner ? cup of white vinegar in 2 liters of
> water
> Window cleaner 1 cup of white vinegar in 1 liter warm water
> Varnish cleaner Wipe with ? cup of vinegar and ? cup
> water solution
> Head cleaner Brush with baking soda
> Shower cleaner Wet surface, use scouring cloth with
> baking soda
> Aluminum cleaner Use 2 tablespoons cream of tartar in 1 liter
> of water
> Chrome cleaner/ polish Apple cider vinegar to clean, baby oil to
> polish
> Fiberglass stain remover Baking soda paste
> Drain Opener Disassemble and replace; avoid toxic
> products
> Mildew Remover Paste of equal parts lemon juice and salt
> Wood polish Use 3 parts olive oil and 1 part white
> wine vinegar;
> almond or olive oil (interior
> unvarnished wood
> only)
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "R Orkin" <roryorkin at verizon.net>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:37 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
>
>
>>
>> Seems that the water birds love to sit on my boat on the lift and feast
>> on
>> fish leaving all sorts of deposits and a total mess.. I have considered
>> putting a tarp over the boom sort of like a dodger to try and stop this.
>> Anyone have any other ideas ??
>> Rory
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Rory Orkin
>> Tilghman, Md
>> 2000 Recycled Rhodes 22
>> Duet ll
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://www.nabble.com/Boids---stinkin-rotten-boids-tp24486963p24486963.html
>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>> __________________________________________________
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>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:02:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <852486.93644.qm at web34503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Rummy,
> ?
> As the picture shows, I give the more substantial life vest to my better
> half, and take a look at the cup out of which I have my beverage.?
> ?
> ?I have had an experience on our recent fleet sail which suggest that it
> takes quite a lot for one to leave the Rhodes cockpit involuntary.
> ?
> Caesar
> --- On Tue, 7/14/09, R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 12:09 PM
>
>
> Caesar,
>
> What is with the whimpy looking life vest. Do you really think you might?
> fall overboard.....out of a Rhodes? And where is the rum filled alcoholic
> adult? beverage that's supposed to be in your empty hand? You really have
> a lot
> to? learn about proper sailing technique. I have a lot of work in front of
> me.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 7/14/2009 2:22:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,?
> caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com writes:
>
> Caesar? Paul
>
> **************Summer concert season is here! Find your favorite artists on
> tour at TourTracker.com.
> (http://www.tourtracker.com/?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000006)
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> Message: 20
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:04:18 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
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>
> Rory,
>
> I built a bird cover a few months ago for Joe Williams' boat. While
> inexpensive, even heavy duty tarps will be a disappointment, maybe a few
> months or service before they fray and tear. I'd suggest Sunbrella, fitted
> if possible, fixed to the boom if possible to avoid material shifting. It
> is not an easy application but will work well if done right. Same
> suggestion on the foredeck, which is a most likely target. Sunbrella is
> easily cleaned, although much more expensive.
>
> I can provide more detail if you reach me off-list.
>
> Chow,
>
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: R Orkin <roryorkin at verizon.net>
>>Sent: Jul 14, 2009 4:37 PM
>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
>>
>>
>>Seems that the water birds love to sit on my boat on the lift and feast on
>>fish leaving all sorts of deposits and a total mess.. I have considered
>>putting a tarp over the boom sort of like a dodger to try and stop this.
>>Anyone have any other ideas ??
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>-----
>>Rory Orkin
>>Tilghman, Md
>>2000 Recycled Rhodes 22
>>Duet ll
>>--
>>View this message in context:
>>http://www.nabble.com/Boids---stinkin-rotten-boids-tp24486963p24486963.html
>>Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>__________________________________________________
>>To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:13:57 -0400
> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] raising the mast
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <7A5B57319AFF9D4A8060949F2E724D5E0298E77C at mirkwood.cc.w2k.vt.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Richard,
> Congratulations on raising the mast and being successful! Which way did
> you end up doing it? Can't comment on your sail issue, I have a
> standard main. - rob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Richard
> MacArthur
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:16 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] raising the mast
>
> Well I got it done for the first time. There was me with my 75 year old
> bones, my co- owner with his 150 pounds and my 6 foot 4 inch 250 pound
> son in law. I didn't feel much weight while pushing up nor did my co-
> owner so I may have found that mythical "one man" who could do it by
> himself (he was a shotputter in college).
>
>
>
> Finally got out for a sail on Sunday and was happy with the way the boat
> sails. I've owned a lot of different sailboats and this one sails with
> the best of them. I had light to medium winds. Looks like it will have
> lee helm in very light winds and balance almost hands off in medium
> winds. I have the mast raked back a little and could rake it back some
> more if the lee helm were a problem but I like it the way it is.
>
>
>
> I had to have the mainsail repaired before I launched the boat (named
> Eagle's Wing ). The luff of the main had rotted for about 2 inches.
> This must be that which is exposed to the sun when the sail is furled
> inside the mast. Has anyone else had this problem? The repair was to put
> a patch on the entire length of the luff and I'd like to protect the
> furled main from the sun if there were an easy way to do this. On the
> other hand maybe it's not a problem. I don't know how long the mast with
> the sail inside might have sat on land uncovered and that won't happen
> again. Happy sailing, Richard.
>
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> Message: 22
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:18:14 -0400
> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
> new old Rhodes
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
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> John,
> What type of boarding ladder are you using? - rob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:41 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
> new old Rhodes
>
> FYI, that same concept can be used on the water. I converted to using
> a boarding ladder hung over the side, rather than trying to negotiate/
> modify the stern gear or disconnect it to get it out of the way. It's
> much easier on the boarder and you don't have to reconnect and
> readjust hardware to get under way. The folding ladder stores neatly
> under the cockpit seats.
>
> Cheers!
> John Lock
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
> Lake Sinclair, GA
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2009, at 13:13, Caesar Paul wrote:
>> Mary Lou,
>>
>> I am following the discussions, and you make a good point about
>> loosening the back stay at anchor for greater ease of access to and
>> from the cockpit.
>>
>> It is a workout for me stepping over the stern rail when working on
>> my boat at home, and I often will place a step ladder next to the
>> boat for some relief.
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>> You did a very nice job with that stern rail modification, and
>> thanks for sharing it with us.
>>
>> Caesar
>
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> Message: 23
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:24:13 -0400
> From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
> new old Rhodes
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <7F3C21AC-C936-4347-9ED0-32B20471C484 at relevantarts.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> Yes, I am aware of where some of the repairs are located and it hasn't
> been a problem so far. The ladder I am using is a standard boarding
> ladder with 6" standoffs. This seems to offset the hull curvature
> nicely and the ladder stays vertical as you climb out. The boat does
> heel over a little when you put your weight on the ladder. But it's
> not a lot and if you had anybody already on board they can sit
> opposite to counterbalance.
>
> The only hard part is the same as you mentioned about coming over the
> stern. It helps to have a handhold above your head to hoist yourself
> the last bit over the side. I can grab the handrail to do that, but
> I'm reasonably agile. I like your idea of a suspended "trapeze" to
> grab. That would make the whole trip even easier.
>
> Cheers!
> John Lock
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
> Lake Sinclair, GA
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2009, at 16:54, Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>> John,
>>
>> Be careful where you put the ladder if it is other than a rope
>> ladder, which I suspect. Your boat had major hull rebuild by Rodger
>> Rookie before I bought it from him, and there are some weak spots.
>> Does that really work well, given that the hull is concave vs. convex?
>>
>> Art
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
>>> Sent: Jul 14, 2009 4:40 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got
>>> my new old Rhodes
>>>
>>> FYI, that same concept can be used on the water. I converted to
>>> using
>>> a boarding ladder hung over the side, rather than trying to
>>> negotiate/
>>> modify the stern gear or disconnect it to get it out of the way.
>>> It's
>>> much easier on the boarder and you don't have to reconnect and
>>> readjust hardware to get under way. The folding ladder stores neatly
>>> under the cockpit seats.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> John Lock
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 14, 2009, at 13:13, Caesar Paul wrote:
>>>> Mary Lou,
>>>>
>>>> I am following the discussions, and you make a good point about
>>>> loosening the back stay at anchor for greater ease of access to and
>>>> from the cockpit.
>>>>
>>>> It is a workout for me stepping over the stern rail when working on
>>>> my boat at home, and I often will place a step ladder next to the
>>>> boat for some relief.
>>>>
>>>> Ron,
>>>>
>>>> You did a very nice job with that stern rail modification, and
>>>> thanks for sharing it with us.
>>>>
>>>> Caesar
>>>
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> Message: 24
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:42:01 -0400
> From: Stephen Staum <staum at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] bilge water, or taking a leak
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> Better still, I scrapped the electric pump & added a foot pump in the
> line to the sink. It is better than a hand pump for washing both
> hands & @ 1 oz per pump a full tank lasts all season.
> SS
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 14, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Joe,
>>
>> You can get a faucet with a hand pump option to save your lungs for
>> breathing.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Joe Babb <joe.babb at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> With all the talk about leaks and water in the bilge, I thought I'd
>>> share another source just in case anybody else was having this
>>> "problem". Our boat was recycled last year. From time to time, I
>>> noticed water in either the bilge or in the laz. Experiments showed
>>> that it was not from rain. Was it the CB cap? To make a long story
>>> short after some further detective work I found that it was from the
>>> built-in water tank. This water tank is located forward of the
>>> portapotty. It has a 1/2" hose barb connection at the very top, aft
>>> corner. If you fill this tank with water, and then go sailing
>>> where you
>>> are heeled over to starboard for a while (like on Pamlico Sound a
>>> couple
>>> of weeks ago) then the tank quietly empties into the bilge.
>>> The fix:
>>> Take a 3' piece of 1/2" tubing, stick on the hose barb, tie-wrap the
>>> tubing to the water fill hose. No more "leaks".
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> p.s. the other problem you can run into with this tank and associated
>>> pump is that if it is fairly empty and you sail heeled over to port,
>>> then the hose from the tank to the pump may get an air lock and the
>>> pump
>>> won't pump water. If you've got enough air in your lungs you can
>>> blow
>>> on the above mentioned tube to force water up to the pump again.
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> Message: 25
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:42:17 -0400
> From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> The boat next to me has a Nixalite "Predator Eyes" balloon hanging from a
> spreader. It is a great perch for the harbor swallows.
>
> I've had some success keeping birds off sheets and rails by hanging from
> them old CDs or DVDs by a shoestring. Be sure they are located sort of
> north of where the birds sit so the reflected sunlight flashes toward the
> birds.
>
> Rick
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Michael D. Weisner
> <mweisner at ebsmed.com>wrote:
>
>> Below is an excerpt from the archives (thread:Organic deck deposits,
>> http://www.nabble.com/Organic-deck-deposits-to21511058.html#a21549141).
>> I use Nixalite for birds, squirrels, etc. It is simple and it works
>> really
>> well:
>>
>> Why go to the trouble of using high tech, powered deterrents?
>> Just be a poor host to these birds and they will choose a more
>> comfortable boat to hang out. For years I have been successful
>> at ridding my R22. and several other sailboats. of cormorants
>> (sea crows) by using Nixalite bird spikes atop the mast
>> (http://www.nixalite.com/nixalitemodels.aspx).
>>
>> Before raising the mast, drill a couple of small holes (1/8", I
>> think) as described in the Nixalite installation instructions in
>> the masthead (top) to secure the clips that hold a small portion
>> of the product to the masthead with short stainless self-tapping
>> screws. The spikes stick straight up when the mast is stepped
>> (be careful of VHF aerial and Windex, if so equipped) and do
>> not interfere with the sail. Additionally, I use a couple of pieces
>> of 20 to 30 pound test monofilament line strung from the mast
>> to the side stays, starting an inch or so above each spreader.
>> This prevents the birds from roosting on the top of the spreaders
>> as well.
>>
>> Obviously, this does not work if the birds tend to sit on the
>> deck, rails, boom or bimini. For this problem, you may need
>> to be more creative or temporarily place monofilament line at
>> appropriate locations to be removed when the boat is occupied.
>> The time spent setting up and removing the deterrents is a
>> fraction of the time necessary to constantly clean up after the
>> birds.
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "R Orkin" <roryorkin at verizon.net>
>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:37 PM
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Seems that the water birds love to sit on my boat on the lift and feast
>> on
>> > fish leaving all sorts of deposits and a total mess.. I have considered
>> > putting a tarp over the boom sort of like a dodger to try and stop
>> > this.
>> > Anyone have any other ideas ??
>> > Rory
>> >
>> >
>> > -----
>> > Rory Orkin
>> > Tilghman, Md
>> > 2000 Recycled Rhodes 22
>> > Duet ll
>> > --
>> > View this message in context:
>> >
>> http://www.nabble.com/Boids---stinkin-rotten-boids-tp24486963p24486963.html
>> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> >
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> Message: 26
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:49:17 -0400
> From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
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> Caesar,
>
> The mast-up vs mast-down comparison is neat picture. You ought to be able
> to sign a 100 page contract with Stan to use that on his site.
>
> Rick
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I am responding to Arthur's gentle prompting to send evidence that our
>> fleet sail really happened.
>>
>> In the first picture, Steve Jacobs and I are preparing our boat for
>> launch
>> at Washington Park in Fidalgo Head, a few miles from Anacortes.
>>
>> The second picture is yours truly with Steve in the background. These
>> were
>> taken while crossing Rosario Straight on our way to the southern tip of
>> Lopez Island.
>>
>> It was an exciting, but not incident free trip.
>>
>> Caesar Paul
>> Gentle Breeze
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> Message: 27
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:25:31 -0500
> From: Ellner <ellner at pressenter.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
> new old Rhodes
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <4A5D21FB.1010207 at pressenter.com>
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>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I missed seeing the "walkthru" picture of the stern rail. Would someone
> direct me to it.
>
> I just replaced the IMF bottom bearing from the 1987 version to the
> newer version with the bearing sleeves. It is a great improvement.
> Much easer to operate.
>
> Thanks
> Rod Ellner
> Toy Blew 1987/2009
>
> Caesar Paul wrote:
>> Mary Lou,
>>
>> I am following the discussions, and you make a good point about loosening
>> the back stay at anchor for greater ease of access to and from the
>> cockpit.
>>
>> It is a workout for me stepping over the stern rail when working on my
>> boat at home, and I often will place a step ladder next to the boat for
>> some relief.
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>> You did a very nice job with that stern rail modification, and thanks for
>> sharing it with us.
>>
>> Caesar
>> --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new
>> old Rhodes
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 6:35 AM
>>
>>
>> Art's comment got me thinking about Ron's walk-through stern rail
>> giving better access to the swim ladder and the obstacle still in
>> place with the traveller. Ron says it's not so much of an obstacle
>> but if it was still an obstacle for someone, it would not be hard at
>> anchor to loosen the backstay adjuster and pull the starboard fastpin
>> holding the traveller in place and letting it drop down. Not sure it
>> would be necessary but it seems to me it would only take a minute to
>> do it and a minute to get the boat back ready to sail.
>>
>> Mary Lou
>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>> Rock Hall, MD
>>
>>
>> At 09:27 PM 7/13/2009, you wrote:
>>
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> Just look at this boat, and a '71. At this pace we will still have
>>> vintage craft when we are in our 90's. Scary, isn't it? If you can
>>> see the second picture - as pedestrian as this may sound, what is
>>> wrong with the 'almost a traveler' approach. My sailing is not so
>>> refined that the traveler bar is essential. Ponder whether an
>>> arrangement like that wouldn't be more workable for you and Linda,
>>> especially with your impressive new swim ladder walkway. Take that
>>> a step further - what if you hung the clew onto the port aft shroud
>>> (get the boom out of the way), used a clip-on for a rope traveler on
>>> the stbd side (get the tripping obstacle out of the way) , and you
>>> would have a dandy walk-thru (under the stbd aft shroud) directly
>>>
>> >from the the swim ladder.
>>
>>> Better find an aspirin...
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>>>> Sent: Jul 13, 2009 9:04 PM
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I just got my new old Rhodes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>
>>>> Congrats on your boat, I'm enclosing picts on my 71 which has the
>>>> original
>>>> rigging as far as I know. I have also run the lines from the mast to
>>>> the
>>>> cockpit for easier single handling. On port side I have a downhaul
>>>> line, and
>>>> a cunningham line. The starboard side is the main halyard and genoa
>>>> furler.
>>>> Enclosed are picts.
>>>>
>>>> John Shulick
>>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0299.jpg
>>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0300.jpg
>>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0291.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>
>>> http://www.nabble.com/I-just-got-my-new-old-Rhodes-tp24450961p24472095.html
>>>
>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>
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> Message: 28
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:31:26 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <746563.47671.qm at web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> Rick,
> ?
> I think you are right; there is value in that picture for Stan, and the
> owner of the picture.
> ?
> Your remark reminds me of another story.? Earlier this summer I trailered
> to Fern Ridge Lake in Eugene, OR.; a 9 hour drive from home, with
> stops.??Early next morning a fellow sailor?came by and started chatting
> and asking questions about the boat?while I was?readying the boat for
> rigging and launching.? At some point in the process he said goodbye and
> left.
> ?
> The next morning the good fellow came up?to?me and asked how I hoisted the
> mask, for from a distance he saw me raising it alone from the bow by
> turning some handle.?(smile) It was then I got the complete picture, which
> still causes me to laugh when I think about it.??Apparently the guy made a
> hasty departure the day before because he either did not want to help me
> lift the IMF mast, or was curious to see how I would manage it alone.??
> Being impressed and or somewhat?puzzled by the process, he sought me
> out?at the marina the next morning to ask how?I did it.
> ?
> I"m still smiling about that experience.
> ?
> Caesar
> Gentle Breeze???
>
> --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 4:49 PM
>
>
> Caesar,
>
> The mast-up vs mast-down comparison is neat picture.? You ought to be able
> to sign a 100 page contract with Stan to use that on his site.
>
> Rick
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I am responding to Arthur's gentle prompting to send evidence that our
>> fleet sail really happened.
>>
>> In the first picture, Steve Jacobs and I are preparing our boat for
>> launch
>> at Washington Park in Fidalgo Head, a few miles from Anacortes.
>>
>> The second picture is yours truly with Steve in the background.? These
>> were
>> taken while crossing Rosario Straight on our way to the southern tip of
>> Lopez Island.
>>
>> It was an exciting, but not incident free trip.
>>
>> Caesar Paul
>> Gentle Breeze
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