[Rhodes22-list] Rigging discussion, extra forestay(s)

John Lock jlock at relevantarts.com
Tue Jul 28 16:06:41 EDT 2009


I don't know how it differs because I don't remember how they rig  
their UPS.  Wasn't double-slotted furling gear involved on a single  
headstay?

Cheers!
John Lock
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
Lake Sinclair, GA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


On Jul 28, 2009, at 15:35, Leland wrote:
> John,
>
> How would your inside stay differ from what Fred and Mary Lou and  
> others
> have with their UPS rigging?
>
> Come to think of it, how do you come about with headsails on a  
> cutter?  Some
> of the double forestays are real close together.  Do you need to  
> furl the
> sails back in before tacking?
>
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
> Kent Island, MD
>
>
> jlock wrote:
>>
>> Aha, I forgot to mention that that inside stay is removable.  I.E. it
>> has a shackle or other arrangement that lets you detach it from the
>> deck and clip aside out of the way when not in use.  Hmmm... maybe
>> this is getting too complicated.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> John Lock
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 14:19, Hank wrote:
>>> John,
>>>
>>> How are you going to tack the genoa through only 6 inches of space
>>> between
>>> the two forestays?
>>>
>>> Hank
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:14 PM, John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Art's addition of a furling spinnaker attached to the reinforced  
>>>> bow
>>>> pulpit reminded me of a sail plan change I have been contemplating.
>>>> So I thought I would run it by the list for comments.
>>>>
>>>> I saw an article recently about a guy (on a much larger boat) who  
>>>> had
>>>> added an inner forestay about six inches behind the main forestay.
>>>> This ran to a mast "hound" (it was called) on the mast six inches
>>>> below the masthead where the main forestay attached.  The result
>>>> was a
>>>> hank-on jib stay running six inches inside the main forestay.  He
>>>> used
>>>> this for a smaller, working jib and furled a big genoa on the main
>>>> forestay.
>>>>
>>>> So I was thinking.... could this be applied to the much smaller
>>>> Rhodes
>>>> as well?  Attachment to the mast is easy.  Attaching a strong point
>>>> to
>>>> the deck just behind the furling drum is the tricky part.  I  
>>>> might be
>>>> tempted to add this to fly a 110% jib for upwind sailing and  
>>>> replace
>>>> the big genoa on the main forestay with a furling UPS for offwind.
>>>>
>>>> But I don't know how to calculate the load on the inner forestay  
>>>> and
>>>> engineer/install a deck attachment that would be strong enough.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> John Lock
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 13:20, Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>>>>> This rig addition is in place for a furling spinnaker but applies
>>>>> also as a 'backup stay' for the forestay and furling genoa.  A  
>>>>> 1/8'
>>>>> SS wire is fixed to the masthead in front of the forestay and
>>>>> brought to, and fixed to the front tip of the bow pulpit.  This  
>>>>> bow
>>>>> pulpit fixture (can be as simple as a SS sliding jaw, $4.99 at
>>>>> Marineparts.com) has a 5/32" SS wire which is then fixed to the  
>>>>> bow
>>>>> eye assembly below.  Call this a cheap sprit-like option, if you
>>>>> will, but provides a backup option.
>>>>
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