[Rhodes22-list] Rigging discussion, extra forestay(s)

[cowie]

the list previously had a lengthy discussion about the Doyle UPS sail that
some have added.  the Doyle price sheet includes an option for a furling
kit.  I assume that anyone with a furling genoa in place and the UPS sail
(without the optional furling kit) would have the UPS sail on a seperate
stay/halyard that would need to be removed when not in use in order not to
be in the way of the furling Genoa?  Does the temporary stay hang down the
side of the mast when no in use?  Or does some sort of halyard system allow
the stay to be easily removed?  Does anyone have two furling sails, UPS and
Genoa in place at the same time?  Seems like the UPS would restrict the
Genoa?



Leland wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> How would your inside stay differ from what Fred and Mary Lou and others
> have with their UPS rigging?  
> 
> Come to think of it, how do you come about with headsails on a cutter? 
> Some of the double forestays are real close together.  Do you need to furl
> the sails back in before tacking?
> 
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
> Kent Island, MD
> 
> 
> jlock wrote:
>> 
>> Aha, I forgot to mention that that inside stay is removable.  I.E. it  
>> has a shackle or other arrangement that lets you detach it from the  
>> deck and clip aside out of the way when not in use.  Hmmm... maybe  
>> this is getting too complicated.
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> John Lock
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 14:19, Hank wrote:
>>> John,
>>>
>>> How are you going to tack the genoa through only 6 inches of space  
>>> between
>>> the two forestays?
>>>
>>> Hank
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:14 PM, John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Art's addition of a furling spinnaker attached to the reinforced bow
>>>> pulpit reminded me of a sail plan change I have been contemplating.
>>>> So I thought I would run it by the list for comments.
>>>>
>>>> I saw an article recently about a guy (on a much larger boat) who had
>>>> added an inner forestay about six inches behind the main forestay.
>>>> This ran to a mast "hound" (it was called) on the mast six inches
>>>> below the masthead where the main forestay attached.  The result  
>>>> was a
>>>> hank-on jib stay running six inches inside the main forestay.  He  
>>>> used
>>>> this for a smaller, working jib and furled a big genoa on the main
>>>> forestay.
>>>>
>>>> So I was thinking.... could this be applied to the much smaller  
>>>> Rhodes
>>>> as well?  Attachment to the mast is easy.  Attaching a strong point  
>>>> to
>>>> the deck just behind the furling drum is the tricky part.  I might be
>>>> tempted to add this to fly a 110% jib for upwind sailing and replace
>>>> the big genoa on the main forestay with a furling UPS for offwind.
>>>>
>>>> But I don't know how to calculate the load on the inner forestay and
>>>> engineer/install a deck attachment that would be strong enough.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> John Lock
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 13:20, Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>>>>> This rig addition is in place for a furling spinnaker but applies
>>>>> also as a 'backup stay' for the forestay and furling genoa.  A 1/8'
>>>>> SS wire is fixed to the masthead in front of the forestay and
>>>>> brought to, and fixed to the front tip of the bow pulpit.  This bow
>>>>> pulpit fixture (can be as simple as a SS sliding jaw, $4.99 at
>>>>> Marineparts.com) has a 5/32" SS wire which is then fixed to the bow
>>>>> eye assembly below.  Call this a cheap sprit-like option, if you
>>>>> will, but provides a backup option.
>>>>
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