[Rhodes22-list] Rigging discussion, extra forestay(s)

[cowie]

Great link! The pictures and detailed discussion provides a very clear
understanding of how the UPS system works.  Thanks.



Leland wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> Here you go:
> 
>   http://www.rhodes22.org/upssail/index.html
> 
> Compliments of one of Mary Lou's posts.
> 
> Lee
> 
> 
> 
> 
> jlock wrote:
>> 
>> I don't know how it differs because I don't remember how they rig  
>> their UPS.  Wasn't double-slotted furling gear involved on a single  
>> headstay?
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> John Lock
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 15:35, Leland wrote:
>>> John,
>>>
>>> How would your inside stay differ from what Fred and Mary Lou and  
>>> others
>>> have with their UPS rigging?
>>>
>>> Come to think of it, how do you come about with headsails on a  
>>> cutter?  Some
>>> of the double forestays are real close together.  Do you need to  
>>> furl the
>>> sails back in before tacking?
>>>
>>> Lee
>>> 1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
>>> Kent Island, MD
>>>
>>>
>>> jlock wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Aha, I forgot to mention that that inside stay is removable.  I.E. it
>>>> has a shackle or other arrangement that lets you detach it from the
>>>> deck and clip aside out of the way when not in use.  Hmmm... maybe
>>>> this is getting too complicated.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> John Lock
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 14:19, Hank wrote:
>>>>> John,
>>>>>
>>>>> How are you going to tack the genoa through only 6 inches of space
>>>>> between
>>>>> the two forestays?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hank
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:14 PM, John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Art's addition of a furling spinnaker attached to the reinforced  
>>>>>> bow
>>>>>> pulpit reminded me of a sail plan change I have been contemplating.
>>>>>> So I thought I would run it by the list for comments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw an article recently about a guy (on a much larger boat) who  
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> added an inner forestay about six inches behind the main forestay.
>>>>>> This ran to a mast "hound" (it was called) on the mast six inches
>>>>>> below the masthead where the main forestay attached.  The result
>>>>>> was a
>>>>>> hank-on jib stay running six inches inside the main forestay.  He
>>>>>> used
>>>>>> this for a smaller, working jib and furled a big genoa on the main
>>>>>> forestay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I was thinking.... could this be applied to the much smaller
>>>>>> Rhodes
>>>>>> as well?  Attachment to the mast is easy.  Attaching a strong point
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the deck just behind the furling drum is the tricky part.  I  
>>>>>> might be
>>>>>> tempted to add this to fly a 110% jib for upwind sailing and  
>>>>>> replace
>>>>>> the big genoa on the main forestay with a furling UPS for offwind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I don't know how to calculate the load on the inner forestay  
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> engineer/install a deck attachment that would be strong enough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>> John Lock
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>>>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 13:20, Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>>>>>>> This rig addition is in place for a furling spinnaker but applies
>>>>>>> also as a 'backup stay' for the forestay and furling genoa.  A  
>>>>>>> 1/8'
>>>>>>> SS wire is fixed to the masthead in front of the forestay and
>>>>>>> brought to, and fixed to the front tip of the bow pulpit.  This  
>>>>>>> bow
>>>>>>> pulpit fixture (can be as simple as a SS sliding jaw, $4.99 at
>>>>>>> Marineparts.com) has a 5/32" SS wire which is then fixed to the  
>>>>>>> bow
>>>>>>> eye assembly below.  Call this a cheap sprit-like option, if you
>>>>>>> will, but provides a backup option.
>>>>>>
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