[Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
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R22RumRunner at aol.com
Sat Jun 13 08:33:46 EDT 2009
Jay,
The gas with the ethanol is not the E85. The normal gas you buy at the pump
has 10 percent ethanol added. If you were to put E95 in your outboard, I
can assure you it would destroy it. E85 is 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline. I
have a pickup with an engine designed to run E85 and I love it. No problems
to date. I just wish they would take the 15% gasoline out so I could drink
it.
Rummy
In a message dated 6/12/2009 9:42:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jsail1 at verizon.net writes:
Frone,
Thinking about you guys, but, alas, "in the same boat"-engine problems
on my 2001 Yam 9.9. Had carb rebuilt and still stalled. Mechanic
showed me the bowl of the carb was being eaten up by ethanol. Hope we
can stop E85. Meanwhile not much sailing, still trying to solve it.
Anyhow, the Rhodies of LBI are alive and well. Tomorrow we have our
annual Father's Day (read the calendar wrong) get together of Bill
Effros, Mel Rothbard, and possibly Rob Baldi, all of us long time R22
owners minimum 10-20 years worth. Ben could be an easy joiner if we
give him enough notice??? Even if we get you and Andy to visit, it
would be good. Jody and i are trying to work our schedule out as her
place is rented for 4 or 5 weeks. We'll talk soon.
Jay
s/v Wanderlust
On Jun 12, 2009, at 2:16 PM, FCrawford0707 at aol.com wrote:
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> Ben - We purchased Sunday Morning from GB in '94 and spent a lot of
> time chewing over possible names.? (I'm a bird-watcher, so I ran a
> bunch of such names up the flagpole ( Osprey, Willet, etc. ) but
> Andy, my wife,? wasn't sold.)? We chose Sunday Morning in the end
> primarily because we thought it sounded pretty nice out loud - who
> can account for taste ?!!?? I see that you are a North Jersey guy -
> I have from time to time thought that the NJ Rhodies should work on
> a Chessie - style rendezvous - maybe somewhere along LBI, as it is
> roughly in the middle ( we are in Avalon and we sometimes cross
> paths with a Rhodie from Sea Isle and another from Stone Harbor -
> don't know who they are, tho').? Maybe Jay can entice us to LBI
> sometime.?
> ?????? Frone (not a typo) Crawford
> ?????? s/v Sunday Morning
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Sent: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:19 am
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
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> Thanks Folks;
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> I actually think the engine may be flopping around too much back
> there.
> We'll see. Art came up with an idea that I think may help with the
> stalling
> out issue. The gas cap/vent may be plugged/too tight causing a
> vacuum to
> build up in the tank. I like that explanation as it fits the facts
> (smooth
> operation, stall, and easy restart), and is CHEAP to fix.
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> Frone (is that right, or a typo?) I like your boat name. Is that
> "Sunday
> Morning" as in "Easy like a...", or as in Charles Osgood (my wife
> works for
> CBS), or something else?
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> Ben
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> Ron Singerman-2 wrote:
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>> Ben,
>>
>> After you get the cover repaired ( I second Dave's repair method)
>> you
>> might
>> want to make sure that the tension adjustment for the movement of the
>> motor
>> is not to tight. It sounds like this might have been the culprit.
>> I also
>> agree that the only time I use my tiller to motor hook-up is when I
>> am
>> backing out of my slip and exiting the marina and when returning,
>> in the
>> marina.
>>
>> Fair winds,
>>
>>>> ron<<
>> S/V Serenity
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Bradley" <dwbrad at gmail.com>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
>>
>>
>> Ben, unless it's a major crack, I would think it's easier to repair
>> the cover (assuming yours is fiberglass like mine) than to buy a new
>> cover and mount the bracket for the steering mechanism. I would
>> epoxy
>> it from inside, taping the outside to be sure the epoxy doesn't leak
>> through. If it's a major crack you could reinforce it with
>> fiberglass
>> cloth inside. All available at West Marine or another marine supply
>> place, along with free advice on which materials to buy. Others on
>> the list can be more prescriptive, I'm sure.
>>
>> While you're messing with the steering attahment, be sure all the
>> nuts
>> and bolts are secure. My mechanishm fell apart one day at a crucial
>> moment just from a nut working its way loose. It wasn't pretty.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:27 PM, BenCittadino<bencittadino at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks John and Dave for the really quick and eminently sensible
>>> replies.
>>>
>>> Dave, I'm afraid the answer to your question is that the cover is
>>> cracked
>>> and I should probably replace (can I?) or repair (dare I?) it. I'm
>>> concerned
>>> about whether I can relocate the little attachment "dohicky" on
>>> top of a
>>> new
>>> cover for the bar connecting the tiller to the engine, but also
>>> don't
>>> know
>>> if a repair of the cover is even possible. I like your idea of
>>> only using
>>> the connection for really tight quarters. If I ever get it fixed
>>> that's
>>> what
>>> I'll do.
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David Bradley wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ben, it sounds like a similar problem I had my first year with my
>>>> Yamaha 9.9. I finally had to bite the bullet and have a good
>>>> mechanic
>>>> clean the jets. You might luck out by using fresh gas (one mechanic
>>>> told me this year that with the new ethanol mix we should use fresh
>>>> gas every week) and just running the motor until the clean gas
>>>> dissolves the crud.
>>>>
>>>> I only use the tiller-motor linkage in the marina for tight turns
>>>> and
>>>> damage avoidance. The boat steers much easier with the motor
>>>> locked -
>>>> much less strain on everything.
>>>>
>>>> Are you saying your engine case has actually cracked, or you're
>>>> worried it might?
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:36 PM, BenCittadino<bencittadino at gmail.com
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So the S/V Susan Kay (93R-recycled08) is in the water for the
>>>>> next 4
>>>>> months
>>>>> after a winter in a cradle. She started right up and ran
>>>>> magnificently
>>>>> for
>>>>> about a half an hour as we motored the few miles out the
>>>>> Shrewsbury
>>>>> River
>>>>> (NJ) around to Sandy Hook Bay where she has a slip. However, as we
>>>>> cruised
>>>>> along at medium to low power (fog & rain) the four stroke 9.9
>>>>> Yamaha
>>>>> began
>>>>> to die, fought alittle to keep running and quit. Attempt to
>>>>> restart
>>>>> (electrical) immediately succeeded, and she ran beautifully for
>>>>> ten
>>>>> minutes
>>>>> then sputtered and quit again. She restarted on the first push
>>>>> of the
>>>>> button, but died once more before we got her safely tied up in her
>>>>> slip.
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> at a loss except to say the gas was from last summer with plenty
>>>>> of
>>>>> Stay-bil. The engine had an oil change and was prepped by the
>>>>> marina
>>>>> where I
>>>>> stored her over the winter. They weren't worried about the gas (I
>>>>> asked).
>>>>> Why would she start like a champ, purr like a kitten, then
>>>>> sputter and
>>>>> die
>>>>> only to restart immediately?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm also becoming concerned about the engine cover cracking some
>>>>> as it
>>>>> appears the attachment to the tiller is stressing the cover (I'm
>>>>> trying
>>>>> to
>>>>> be gentle). I'm considering locking the engine along the
>>>>> centerline and
>>>>> steering with the rudder alone.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a rookie sailor I must say I get a small charge out of the
>>>>> bridge
>>>>> tender
>>>>> answering my call on channel 13 by calling me "Captain", but I'm
>>>>> told I
>>>>> am
>>>>> easily entertained. Looking forward to a great summer, but
>>>>> considering
>>>>> chucking the motor altogether.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> BenCittadino
>>>>> Highlands, NJ
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>>>> +1.206.234.3977
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