[Rhodes22-list] Cowl Vent
Rick
sloopblueheron at gmail.com
Sun Jun 28 20:49:58 EDT 2009
Art,
I do carry a sea anchor, but have only used it to slow down in following
seas. I carry 150' of rode which should let my anchor reach bottom where I
usually sail on Lake Erie.
I don't like the bow either, but I don't have life lines. The most secure
and supportive spot for my old back to handle the anchor is the bow pulpit.
I'm too afraid the anchor would pull me overboard wrestling it out of the
cockpit in the rough.
My bimini is GBI issue and it has a single cover. Just fold it onto the pop
top to slip the cover on or off.
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Arthur H. Czerwonky <
czerwonky at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Rick,
>
> Do you carry a sea anchor on the boat?
>
> Re. anchoring in heavy water & wind - whatever works for you. For me, I'd
> never get on the foredeck in heavy conditions because I can drop the anchor
> from the cockpit, anchor from the same bow cleat, never leaving the tiller.
> Try it, it's simple and I feel safer.
>
> I don't envy your experience on the boat today. No fun when the boat is
> being tossed even without the sails up. The kicker could be working
> properly, yet be non-functional because it cannot engage the propeller into
> the water.
>
> Can you remove/install the bimini cover easily or in individual sections?
> I'd be curious how that works for you.
>
> Chow,
>
> Art
>
> >From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> >Sent: Jun 28, 2009 4:56 PM
> >To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cowl Vent
> >
> >Art,
> >
> >It is not a question of wanting to anchor in adverse conditions, it is
> >having to. For instance, today I believed a weekend forecast of 5-15 knot
> >winds this afternoon. So I raised the pop top and took off the bimini
> cover
> >before leaving the dock. When I got out there, the wind heeled the boat
> >without sails--it was blowing a good 30 knots and from the west rather
> than
> >SW as predicted.
> >
> >What if the motor didn't start and I couldn't tack home because the furler
> >jammed? Our anchors are our last line of defense. Even in the most
> benign
> >conditions, we should practice deploying the anchor the way it was
> designed
> >to be deployed in the worst conditions. That way, it will be second
> nature
> >when things get rough.
> >
> >As for locker smell, keeping your tackle clean and dry, plus an occasional
> >sheet of Bounce, keeps my wife perfectly happy.
> >
> >Rick
> >
> >On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Arthur H. Czerwonky <
> >czerwonky at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Rick,
> >>
> >> Maybe a reasonable question would be - Why would a prudent skipper want
> to
> >> anchor the boat in the conditions you describe? I wouldn't choose to
> get
> >> out or stay out if I could potentially have this situation. For
> certain,
> >> one of my base requirements for being out is having enough motor reserve
> to
> >> make headway. I understand that conditions along the Maine coast, given
> a
> >> rocky shoreline and periodic serious storm conditions, can be
> treacherous
> >> and I'd be mighty careful about where and when I'd even go out.
> >>
> >> That said, I anchor out of the cockpit, choose conditions in which I can
> >> get the anchor to hold, and therefore have no potential contending with
> a
> >> five foot sea standing on the foredeck, trying to deploy the anchor and,
> >> wouldn't you know, the rode gets fouled. Instead I am in the cockpit,
> near
> >> motor and rudder controls, drop the anchor over the side, and pull the
> rode
> >> forward using a line strung through the bow cleat. I feel safer and
> more in
> >> control this way.
> >>
> >> I do not use the anchor locker for another reason already brought up,
> the
> >> foul odor from the rode. My wife wouldn't find a pleasure in sleeping
> on
> >> the boat with such heavy air, nor would I, and, I like others, want to
> >> overnight with her whenever possible
> >>
> >> Art
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> >> >Sent: Jun 28, 2009 10:38 AM
> >> >To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cowl Vent
> >> >
> >> >Jerry,
> >> >
> >> >That sounds fine for a peaceful inlet. But how would that work when
> the
> >> >motor is almost full out trying to keep the boat into the wind which,
> >> along
> >> >with five foot waves, is pushing you toward the rocks while you and any
> >> crew
> >> >have turned green?
> >> >
> >> >Rick
> >> >
> >> >On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:14 AM, <cjlowe at sssnet.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I like to keep my fortress anchor under the starboard seat in a
> >> rubbermaid
> >> >> container and deploy it off the starboard side,let out all but 20
> feet
> >> of
> >> >> the scope I want out. Then I cleat it and power down on it,let
> off,and
> >> >> then uncleat it , walk the small coil of rode left,around the outside
> of
> >> >> the shrouds to the bow,and cleat it off.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jerry Lowe
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Attached is the best picture I could find that shows how I drape the
> >> >> > anchor
> >> >> > chain. It doesn't make any noise and I prefer handy to classy
> >> looking.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Rummy
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In a message dated 6/27/2009 1:54:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >> >> > sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > OK Rummy, you caught me on one point. I do sometimes lug from the
> >> >> > cockpit
> >> >> > the" smelly rag" used to wipe down tackle that can't be cleaned by
> >> >> > swishing
> >> >> > it around in the water. And if admiral complaints of smell from
> the
> >> >> > anchor
> >> >> > locker seem likely, I just stuff in a sheet of Bounce (that's not
> in
> >> the
> >> >> > admiral, but in the locker.)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I've been on a boat that has the anchor chain draped around the
> >> anchor.
> >> >> > It
> >> >> > is pretty noisy in the slightest waves and not the classy look I
> wish
> >> >> to
> >> >> > maintain. My cowl collar is removable and, as you can tell from
> the
> >> >> > pictures, the vent frame has not been damaged by passing the chain
> in
> >> >> and
> >> >> > out. (Part of my classy look is to maintain sobriety when
> handling
> >> >> > anchor
> >> >> > tackle.)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > As for the venturi effect, I've found the scoop effect more
> >> effective.
> >> >> > But
> >> >> > whatever works best for you.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Rick
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:42 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Gentleman,
> >> >> >> Leave the chain attached to the anchor and drape it around it so
> it
> >> is
> >> >> >> always handy. Pulling the chain out of the locker is unnecessary
> and
> >> >> >> creates
> >> >> >> wear and tear on the cowl collar. From a scientific standpoint,
> the
> >> >> >> cowl
> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> designed to work best with it facing away from the wind
> direction.
> >> This
> >> >> >> eliminates any water from entering and creates more ventilation.
> >> It's
> >> >> >> all
> >> >> >> based
> >> >> >> on the venturi effect. Carrying a plastic basket from the
> cockpit
> >> to
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> bow and connecting it to the anchor chain is a lot less work
> than
> >> >> > trying
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> pull and stuff crap through the cowl vent. All the water and
> mess
> >> from
> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> anchor line stays in the cockpit and not in the cabin. Many
> areas
> >> >> >> don't
> >> >> >> have nice sandy bottoms so the anchor line will start to smell
> just
> >> >> >> like
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> bottom conditions. Your admiral will not appreciate that damp
> muddy
> >> >> > flats
> >> >> >> bottom crap smell being in her cabin.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Rummy
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> In a message dated 6/26/2009 7:33:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >> >> >> sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Lee,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yes, I use it to store and deploy the rode and chain through the
> >> hole.
> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> think taking the locker in and out would be worse than
> retrieving
> >> >> >> tackle
> >> >> >> from the cockpit.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I disconnect the chain for storage. Since my hand just fits
> >> through
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> hole, and I'm afraid of breaking my wrist during a rock 'n roll,
> I
> >> use
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> messenger line tied to the cap to start pulling stuff out. I'm
> >> >> > re-posting
> >> >> >> pictures from a few months ago of how I do that. You can't see
> >> the
> >> >> >> mono-filament messenger line very well, but it is tied to the
> big
> >> loop
> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> the rode.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> To dry out the locker, point the scoop into the wind when there
> is
> >> no
> >> >> >> water
> >> >> >> in the wind. I generally use a cap when there is no need to
> >> ventilate
> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> locker or v-berth. Also, if you want to ventilate the v-berth
> when
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> wind
> >> >> >> is wet--no problem because the water will just collect in the
> >> locker
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> dry
> >> >> >> out later.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Rick
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Rick,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Do you use the anchor rode locker? If so, what technique do
> you
> >> use
> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> get
> >> >> >> > the rode in and out of the locker. I'd prefer to use it as
> >> >> >> designed
> >> >> > if
> >> >> >> > there's some easy way to do it. I even thought about taking
> the
> >> >> > locker
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> > and out with each use but I didn't want to disconnect the
> anchor
> >> >> >> from
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> > rode.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I think someone on this list said that the vent scoop is
> designed
> >> to
> >> >> >> face
> >> >> >> > aft away from the wind. Mine has always faced forward.
> Should
> >> I
> >> >> > turn
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> > around?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Lee
> >> >> >> > 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
> >> >> >> > Kent Island, MD
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Rick-139 wrote:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Cowie,
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > The cowl vent should swivel so you can turn it into the
> wind.
> >> Do
> >> >> > you
> >> >> >> > have
> >> >> >> > > a
> >> >> >> > > nylon screen covering the ring? If not, cutting one to fit
> >> will
> >> >> >> tighten
> >> >> >> > > the
> >> >> >> > > vent plus keep out the bugs.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > The vent should ventilate a triangular anchor rode locker
> under
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> deck.
> >> >> >> > > Replacing the cowl vent with a fixed fan would prevent you
> from
> >> >> > using
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> > > locker. However, there are some people on the list who
> prefer
> >> to
> >> >> > lug
> >> >> >> > > their
> >> >> >> > > anchor tackle from the cockpit. If you want to join them,
> the
> >> fan
> >> >> >> vent
> >> >> >> > > will
> >> >> >> > > give you better day time ventilation in the the v-berth.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Rick
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:01 PM, cowie
> >> >> >> <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> I have a 3" cowl vent on the bow and like the functional
> >> quality
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> > >> but
> >> >> >> > >> have a couple of questions.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> The cowl vent slips onto a plastic ring that slips into a
> deck
> >> >> >> fitting.
> >> >> >> > >> Looks like the plastic ring and cowl vent are removable and
> >> can
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> > >> replaced
> >> >> >> > >> with a plastic cover that seals the deck opening while the
> >> deck
> >> >> >> fitting
> >> >> >> > >> remains in place. Recently the cowl vent has come loose
> from
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> > plastic
> >> >> >> > >> ring. Is the cowl vent supposed to be able to turn around
> the
> >> >> > plastic
> >> >> >> > >> ring
> >> >> >> > >> in order to face the prevailing wind or is the cowl vent
> >> supposed
> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> > >> glued to the plastic ring and the ring is supposed to turn
> in
> >> the
> >> >> >> deck
> >> >> >> > >> fitting? The cowl vento portion is so loose I worry it
> might
> >> go
> >> >> >> > >> overboard.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> I found Nicro makes a 3" solor day/night fan. Has anyone
> >> >> >> installed
> >> >> >> this
> >> >> >> > >> and
> >> >> >> > >> can it be easly replaced with the cowl vent? I like the
> idea
> >> of
> >> >> >> being
> >> >> >> > >> able
> >> >> >> > >> to use both options but don't know if they are easily
> >> >> > interchangable.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> I also see that Nicro makes a standard 3" screen. Can this
> be
> >> >> >> insterted
> >> >> >> > >> while the cowl vent is in place?
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> Thanks
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >>
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