[Rhodes22-list] Cowl Vent
Rick
sloopblueheron at gmail.com
Mon Jun 29 11:37:48 EDT 2009
Mary Lou,
I run jacklines from the bow cleat to each aft cleat, using the clips on the
bow cleat in case I need room there to tie on the anchor rode. In the usual
case where I need to go forward, but I haven't set the jacklines, I tie the
bitter end of a jackline to the mast with a clove hitch leaving about 5'
free to the clip. I double clip a tether to my harness, then clip onto the
jackline to move from the cockpit to the bow. Once on the bow deck, I can
use the tether to clip onto the cleat or pulpit.
I wear an integrated harness and inflatable which IMO is very comfortable
and convenient. Most women I know wouldn't agree, especially when inflation
occurs. For my female crew, I have a harness designed for women that goes
on under a life vest. It is not bad with the newer vests that have straps
instead of floatation over the shoulders because attaching a tether will
lift up the jacket a bit.
Last fall, West Marine came out with an integrated inflatable for women. I
got one as a gift for my wife last Christmas. She and my nieces who often
crew with me all gave it a trial at the gift opening. I had to get my money
back.
Rick
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
> Rick,
> I agree with you on the bow pulpit and I also love the fact that the
> boat has a solid well designed toe rail to brace against. My issue
> with the foredeck is the lack of handholds forward of the mast. It
> doesn't matter in the usual conditions when we are anchoring but it
> can be downright scary in heavier conditions.
>
> Where do you fasten your jacklines? We don't singlehand but if we
> did, harnesses would be on the list. When it comes time to replace
> our old inflatable pfds we may want to look at the inflatables with a
> built in harness.
>
> Mary Lou
>
>
>
> At 09:04 PM 6/28/2009, you wrote:
> >Hi Mary Lou,
> >
> >Well, I never have to look for my anchor since it hangs from the bow
> >pulpit. Once I get myself cozy in the bow pulpit, there is minimal
> physical
> >effort to dropping or pulling up the anchor.
> >
> >You're right about jacklines, tethers and harnesses. Even in the best
> >conditions, I wear my harness and tether to the mast or bow cleat when
> going
> >forward single handed. When I know it might be rough, I deploy jacklines.
> >
> >Rick
> >
> >On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Rick,
> > > Count us among those with the anchor in the cockpit. Under the
> > > conditions you describe, I would be unhappy with anyone on the
> > > foredeck for any reason. There simply aren't enough handholds and few
> > > of us have jacklines rigged and harnesses. It would seem to me that
> > > the safest approach to those conditions would be to prepare for them
> > > before leaving the dock which would involve snubbing the anchor rode
> > > to the foredeck cleat and leading it back to the cockpit so that the
> > > anchor could still be deployed from there. It's not an ideal solution
> > > and we've never done it. We've only once been out in really heavy
> > > winds and fortunately while it was sudden, it was very brief and
> > > waves did not have time to build.
> > >
> > > We have deployed the anchor under emergency conditions (motor failed
> > > current sweeping us back towards a drawbridge) but it didn't involve
> > > waves. Under those less extreme conditions it was easy enough to take
> > > the anchor forward, snub the bitter end and deploy it. It was
> > > probably as fast or faster than fishing out the rode and connecting
> > > it to the anchor. We do make sure that the anchor is available in the
> > > lazarette with nothing stowed on top of it before we leave the dock.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Mary Lou
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 10:38 AM 6/28/2009, you wrote:
> > > >Jerry,
> > > >
> > > >That sounds fine for a peaceful inlet. But how would that work when
> the
> > > >motor is almost full out trying to keep the boat into the wind which,
> > > along
> > > >with five foot waves, is pushing you toward the rocks while you and
> any
> > > crew
> > > >have turned green?
> > > >
> > > >Rick
> > > >
> > > >On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:14 AM, <cjlowe at sssnet.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I like to keep my fortress anchor under the starboard seat in a
> > > rubbermaid
> > > > > container and deploy it off the starboard side,let out all but 20
> feet
> > > of
> > > > > the scope I want out. Then I cleat it and power down on it,let
> off,and
> > > > > then uncleat it , walk the small coil of rode left,around the
> outside
> > > of
> > > > > the shrouds to the bow,and cleat it off.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jerry Lowe
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Attached is the best picture I could find that shows how I drape
> the
> > > > > > anchor
> > > > > > chain. It doesn't make any noise and I prefer handy to classy
> > > looking.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rummy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a message dated 6/27/2009 1:54:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > > > > sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OK Rummy, you caught me on one point. I do sometimes lug from
> the
> > > > > > cockpit
> > > > > > the" smelly rag" used to wipe down tackle that can't be cleaned
> by
> > > > > > swishing
> > > > > > it around in the water. And if admiral complaints of smell from
> the
> > > > > > anchor
> > > > > > locker seem likely, I just stuff in a sheet of Bounce (that's
> not in
> > > the
> > > > > > admiral, but in the locker.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've been on a boat that has the anchor chain draped around the
> > > anchor.
> > > > > > It
> > > > > > is pretty noisy in the slightest waves and not the classy look I
> > > wish
> > > > > to
> > > > > > maintain. My cowl collar is removable and, as you can tell from
> the
> > > > > > pictures, the vent frame has not been damaged by passing the
> chain in
> > > > > and
> > > > > > out. (Part of my classy look is to maintain sobriety when
> handling
> > > > > > anchor
> > > > > > tackle.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for the venturi effect, I've found the scoop effect more
> > > effective.
> > > > > > But
> > > > > > whatever works best for you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rick
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:42 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Gentleman,
> > > > > >> Leave the chain attached to the anchor and drape it around it
> so it
> > > is
> > > > > >> always handy. Pulling the chain out of the locker is
> unnecessary
> > > and
> > > > > >> creates
> > > > > >> wear and tear on the cowl collar. From a scientific standpoint,
> the
> > > > > >> cowl
> > > > > > is
> > > > > >> designed to work best with it facing away from the wind
> direction.
> > > This
> > > > > >> eliminates any water from entering and creates more
> ventilation.
> > > It's
> > > > > >> all
> > > > > >> based
> > > > > >> on the venturi effect. Carrying a plastic basket from the
> cockpit
> > > to
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> bow and connecting it to the anchor chain is a lot less work
> than
> > > > > > trying
> > > > > >> to
> > > > > >> pull and stuff crap through the cowl vent. All the water and
> mess
> > > from
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >> anchor line stays in the cockpit and not in the cabin. Many
> areas
> > > > > >> don't
> > > > > >> have nice sandy bottoms so the anchor line will start to smell
> > > just
> > > > > >> like
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> bottom conditions. Your admiral will not appreciate that damp
> > > muddy
> > > > > > flats
> > > > > >> bottom crap smell being in her cabin.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Rummy
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> In a message dated 6/26/2009 7:33:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight
> Time,
> > > > > >> sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Lee,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Yes, I use it to store and deploy the rode and chain through
> the
> > > hole.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > >> think taking the locker in and out would be worse than
> retrieving
> > > > > >> tackle
> > > > > >> from the cockpit.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I disconnect the chain for storage. Since my hand just fits
> > > through
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> hole, and I'm afraid of breaking my wrist during a rock 'n
> roll, I
> > > use
> > > > > >> a
> > > > > >> messenger line tied to the cap to start pulling stuff out.
> I'm
> > > > > > re-posting
> > > > > >> pictures from a few months ago of how I do that. You can't
> see
> > > the
> > > > > >> mono-filament messenger line very well, but it is tied to the
> big
> > > loop
> > > > > > in
> > > > > >> the rode.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> To dry out the locker, point the scoop into the wind when there
> is
> > > no
> > > > > >> water
> > > > > >> in the wind. I generally use a cap when there is no need to
> > > ventilate
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >> locker or v-berth. Also, if you want to ventilate the v-berth
> > > when
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> wind
> > > > > >> is wet--no problem because the water will just collect in the
> > > locker
> > > > > >> and
> > > > > >> dry
> > > > > >> out later.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Rick
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Rick,
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Do you use the anchor rode locker? If so, what technique do
> you
> > > use
> > > > > > to
> > > > > >> get
> > > > > >> > the rode in and out of the locker. I'd prefer to use it as
> > > > > >> designed
> > > > > > if
> > > > > >> > there's some easy way to do it. I even thought about taking
> the
> > > > > > locker
> > > > > >> in
> > > > > >> > and out with each use but I didn't want to disconnect the
> anchor
> > > > > >> from
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > rode.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I think someone on this list said that the vent scoop is
> > > designed to
> > > > > >> face
> > > > > >> > aft away from the wind. Mine has always faced forward.
> Should
> > > I
> > > > > > turn
> > > > > >> it
> > > > > >> > around?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Thanks!
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Lee
> > > > > >> > 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
> > > > > >> > Kent Island, MD
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Rick-139 wrote:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Cowie,
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > The cowl vent should swivel so you can turn it into the
> wind.
> > > Do
> > > > > > you
> > > > > >> > have
> > > > > >> > > a
> > > > > >> > > nylon screen covering the ring? If not, cutting one to
> fit
> > > will
> > > > > >> tighten
> > > > > >> > > the
> > > > > >> > > vent plus keep out the bugs.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > The vent should ventilate a triangular anchor rode locker
> > > under
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> deck.
> > > > > >> > > Replacing the cowl vent with a fixed fan would prevent you
> > > from
> > > > > > using
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > > locker. However, there are some people on the list who
> prefer
> > > to
> > > > > > lug
> > > > > >> > > their
> > > > > >> > > anchor tackle from the cockpit. If you want to join them,
> the
> > > fan
> > > > > >> vent
> > > > > >> > > will
> > > > > >> > > give you better day time ventilation in the the v-berth.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Rick
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:01 PM, cowie
> > > > > >> <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> I have a 3" cowl vent on the bow and like the functional
> > > quality
> > > > > >> of
> > > > > >> it
> > > > > >> > >> but
> > > > > >> > >> have a couple of questions.
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> The cowl vent slips onto a plastic ring that slips into a
> > > deck
> > > > > >> fitting.
> > > > > >> > >> Looks like the plastic ring and cowl vent are removable
> and
> > > can
> > > > > >> be
> > > > > >> > >> replaced
> > > > > >> > >> with a plastic cover that seals the deck opening while
> the
> > > deck
> > > > > >> fitting
> > > > > >> > >> remains in place. Recently the cowl vent has come loose
> > > from
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > plastic
> > > > > >> > >> ring. Is the cowl vent supposed to be able to turn around
> the
> > > > > > plastic
> > > > > >> > >> ring
> > > > > >> > >> in order to face the prevailing wind or is the cowl vent
> > > supposed
> > > > > > to
> > > > > >> be
> > > > > >> > >> glued to the plastic ring and the ring is supposed to
> turn in
> > > the
> > > > > >> deck
> > > > > >> > >> fitting? The cowl vento portion is so loose I worry it
> might
> > > go
> > > > > >> > >> overboard.
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> I found Nicro makes a 3" solor day/night fan. Has anyone
> > > > > >> installed
> > > > > >> this
> > > > > >> > >> and
> > > > > >> > >> can it be easly replaced with the cowl vent? I like the
> idea
> > > of
> > > > > >> being
> > > > > >> > >> able
> > > > > >> > >> to use both options but don't know if they are easily
> > > > > > interchangable.
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> I also see that Nicro makes a standard 3" screen. Can
> this
> > > be
> > > > > >> insterted
> > > > > >> > >> while the cowl vent is in place?
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> Thanks
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >>
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