[Rhodes22-list] Cowl Vent
Rick
sloopblueheron at gmail.com
Mon Jun 29 11:41:30 EDT 2009
Jerry,
After the 4th that would be nice.
Rick
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:49 PM, <cjlowe at sssnet.com> wrote:
> Gee Rick,you are just full of good questions today. DON'T take that
> wrong,I'd much rather ask and answer these questions sitting in my living
> room in front of a keyboard,than at the helm,in a storm.But it's bedtime
> now,so lets figure this out tomarrow.
> And I would like very much to crew for you sometime on the big lake.
>
> Thanks,
> Jerry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jerry,
> >
> > That seems like a lot of tricky threading of rode while making your way
> > forward. Then you're going to toss the anchor? Do you time the toss
> when
> > a
> > wave is heaving the boat, or on the drop? And when you're heaving, how
> do
> > you keep the rode, with wind blowing and the waves rolling, from hanging
> > up
> > on something, like a winch, pulling the boat into a broach?
> >
> > As for motoring into the wind, yes I do use use the main sail to
> stabilize
> > the boat.
> >
> > We should meet up on the lake sometime.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:03 PM, <cjlowe at sssnet.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Very good point,Rick. I do have a small lake mindset,but I have been
> >> out
> >> on Lake Erie when a storm blew up,and if your more than a mile from
> >> protection,you better have a good storm plan ready.I think I would still
> >> leave the anchor,and rode on the cockpit floor,secure the tiller,grab
> >> the
> >> bitter end of the rode and the last 20 feet thread it outside the
> >> shrouds
> >> on the port side and in threw the bow pulpit and the fair lead and cleat
> >> it.Once back in the cockpit,Idle the motor and put in nutrual,when the
> >> waves start pushing the boat backwards,heave the anchor as hard as I can
> >> to port and forward. Then I would feed out the rest of the rode, tossing
> >> the last 20 feet or so still in a coil to port and pray for a good hook.
> >>
> >> When motoring into a storm,do you put a little sail out to ease the
> >> motion
> >> of the waves? Which,both or neither?
> >>
> >> Thanks for giving me something I can use later
> >>
> >> Jerry
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jerry,
> >> >
> >> > That sounds fine for a peaceful inlet. But how would that work when
> >> the
> >> > motor is almost full out trying to keep the boat into the wind which,
> >> > along
> >> > with five foot waves, is pushing you toward the rocks while you and
> >> any
> >> > crew
> >> > have turned green?
> >> >
> >> > Rick
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:14 AM, <cjlowe at sssnet.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I like to keep my fortress anchor under the starboard seat in a
> >> >> rubbermaid
> >> >> container and deploy it off the starboard side,let out all but 20
> >> feet
> >> >> of
> >> >> the scope I want out. Then I cleat it and power down on it,let
> >> off,and
> >> >> then uncleat it , walk the small coil of rode left,around the outside
> >> of
> >> >> the shrouds to the bow,and cleat it off.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jerry Lowe
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Attached is the best picture I could find that shows how I drape the
> >> >> > anchor
> >> >> > chain. It doesn't make any noise and I prefer handy to classy
> >> >> looking.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Rummy
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In a message dated 6/27/2009 1:54:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >> >> > sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > OK Rummy, you caught me on one point. I do sometimes lug from the
> >> >> > cockpit
> >> >> > the" smelly rag" used to wipe down tackle that can't be cleaned by
> >> >> > swishing
> >> >> > it around in the water. And if admiral complaints of smell from
> >> the
> >> >> > anchor
> >> >> > locker seem likely, I just stuff in a sheet of Bounce (that's not
> >> in
> >> >> the
> >> >> > admiral, but in the locker.)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I've been on a boat that has the anchor chain draped around the
> >> >> anchor.
> >> >> > It
> >> >> > is pretty noisy in the slightest waves and not the classy look I
> >> wish
> >> >> to
> >> >> > maintain. My cowl collar is removable and, as you can tell from
> >> the
> >> >> > pictures, the vent frame has not been damaged by passing the chain
> >> in
> >> >> and
> >> >> > out. (Part of my classy look is to maintain sobriety when
> >> handling
> >> >> > anchor
> >> >> > tackle.)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > As for the venturi effect, I've found the scoop effect more
> >> >> effective.
> >> >> > But
> >> >> > whatever works best for you.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Rick
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:42 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Gentleman,
> >> >> >> Leave the chain attached to the anchor and drape it around it so
> >> it
> >> >> is
> >> >> >> always handy. Pulling the chain out of the locker is unnecessary
> >> and
> >> >> >> creates
> >> >> >> wear and tear on the cowl collar. From a scientific standpoint,
> >> the
> >> >> >> cowl
> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> designed to work best with it facing away from the wind
> >> direction.
> >> >> This
> >> >> >> eliminates any water from entering and creates more ventilation.
> >> >> It's
> >> >> >> all
> >> >> >> based
> >> >> >> on the venturi effect. Carrying a plastic basket from the
> >> cockpit
> >> >> to
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> bow and connecting it to the anchor chain is a lot less work
> >> than
> >> >> > trying
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> pull and stuff crap through the cowl vent. All the water and
> >> mess
> >> >> from
> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> anchor line stays in the cockpit and not in the cabin. Many
> >> areas
> >> >> >> don't
> >> >> >> have nice sandy bottoms so the anchor line will start to smell
> >> just
> >> >> >> like
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> bottom conditions. Your admiral will not appreciate that damp
> >> muddy
> >> >> > flats
> >> >> >> bottom crap smell being in her cabin.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Rummy
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> In a message dated 6/26/2009 7:33:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >> >> >> sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Lee,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yes, I use it to store and deploy the rode and chain through the
> >> >> hole.
> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> think taking the locker in and out would be worse than
> >> retrieving
> >> >> >> tackle
> >> >> >> from the cockpit.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I disconnect the chain for storage. Since my hand just fits
> >> >> through
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> hole, and I'm afraid of breaking my wrist during a rock 'n roll,
> >> I
> >> >> use
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> messenger line tied to the cap to start pulling stuff out. I'm
> >> >> > re-posting
> >> >> >> pictures from a few months ago of how I do that. You can't see
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> mono-filament messenger line very well, but it is tied to the
> >> big
> >> >> loop
> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> the rode.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> To dry out the locker, point the scoop into the wind when there
> >> is
> >> >> no
> >> >> >> water
> >> >> >> in the wind. I generally use a cap when there is no need to
> >> >> ventilate
> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> locker or v-berth. Also, if you want to ventilate the v-berth
> >> when
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> wind
> >> >> >> is wet--no problem because the water will just collect in the
> >> >> locker
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> dry
> >> >> >> out later.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Rick
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Rick,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Do you use the anchor rode locker? If so, what technique do
> >> you
> >> >> use
> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> get
> >> >> >> > the rode in and out of the locker. I'd prefer to use it as
> >> >> >> designed
> >> >> > if
> >> >> >> > there's some easy way to do it. I even thought about taking
> >> the
> >> >> > locker
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> > and out with each use but I didn't want to disconnect the
> >> anchor
> >> >> >> from
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> > rode.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I think someone on this list said that the vent scoop is
> >> designed
> >> >> to
> >> >> >> face
> >> >> >> > aft away from the wind. Mine has always faced forward.
> >> Should
> >> >> I
> >> >> > turn
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> > around?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Lee
> >> >> >> > 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
> >> >> >> > Kent Island, MD
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Rick-139 wrote:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Cowie,
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > The cowl vent should swivel so you can turn it into the
> >> wind.
> >> >> Do
> >> >> > you
> >> >> >> > have
> >> >> >> > > a
> >> >> >> > > nylon screen covering the ring? If not, cutting one to fit
> >> >> will
> >> >> >> tighten
> >> >> >> > > the
> >> >> >> > > vent plus keep out the bugs.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > The vent should ventilate a triangular anchor rode locker
> >> under
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> deck.
> >> >> >> > > Replacing the cowl vent with a fixed fan would prevent you
> >> from
> >> >> > using
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> > > locker. However, there are some people on the list who
> >> prefer
> >> >> to
> >> >> > lug
> >> >> >> > > their
> >> >> >> > > anchor tackle from the cockpit. If you want to join them,
> >> the
> >> >> fan
> >> >> >> vent
> >> >> >> > > will
> >> >> >> > > give you better day time ventilation in the the v-berth.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Rick
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:01 PM, cowie
> >> >> >> <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> I have a 3" cowl vent on the bow and like the functional
> >> >> quality
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> > >> but
> >> >> >> > >> have a couple of questions.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> The cowl vent slips onto a plastic ring that slips into a
> >> deck
> >> >> >> fitting.
> >> >> >> > >> Looks like the plastic ring and cowl vent are removable and
> >> >> can
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> > >> replaced
> >> >> >> > >> with a plastic cover that seals the deck opening while the
> >> >> deck
> >> >> >> fitting
> >> >> >> > >> remains in place. Recently the cowl vent has come loose
> >> from
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> > plastic
> >> >> >> > >> ring. Is the cowl vent supposed to be able to turn around
> >> the
> >> >> > plastic
> >> >> >> > >> ring
> >> >> >> > >> in order to face the prevailing wind or is the cowl vent
> >> >> supposed
> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> > >> glued to the plastic ring and the ring is supposed to turn
> >> in
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> deck
> >> >> >> > >> fitting? The cowl vento portion is so loose I worry it
> >> might
> >> >> go
> >> >> >> > >> overboard.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> I found Nicro makes a 3" solor day/night fan. Has anyone
> >> >> >> installed
> >> >> >> this
> >> >> >> > >> and
> >> >> >> > >> can it be easly replaced with the cowl vent? I like the
> >> idea
> >> >> of
> >> >> >> being
> >> >> >> > >> able
> >> >> >> > >> to use both options but don't know if they are easily
> >> >> > interchangable.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> I also see that Nicro makes a standard 3" screen. Can this
> >> be
> >> >> >> insterted
> >> >> >> > >> while the cowl vent is in place?
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> Thanks
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p24211017/88.jpg
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p24211017/89.jpg
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p24211017/53.jpg
> >> >> >> > >> --
> >> >> >> > >> View this message in context:
> >> >> >> > >> http://www.nabble.com/Cowl-Vent-tp24211017p24211017.html
> >> >> >> > >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> __________________________________________________
> >> >> >> > >> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing
> >> >> list
> >> >> > go
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> > >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> >> >> > >> __________________________________________________
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > > __________________________________________________
> >> >> >> > > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing
> >> >> list
> >> >> >> go
> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > > http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> >> >> > > __________________________________________________
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > View this message in context:
> >> >> >> > http://www.nabble.com/Cowl-Vent-tp24211017p24219585.html
> >> >> >> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > __________________________________________________
> >> >> >> > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing
> >> list
> >> >> go
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> > http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> >> >> > __________________________________________________
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> -------------- next part --------------
> >> >> >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
> >> >> >> Name: ATT00020.jpg
> >> >> >> Type: image/jpeg
> >> >> >> Size: 75875 bytes
> >> >> >> Desc: not available
> >> >> >> Url :
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20090626/35dfdfe7/attachment.jpg
> >> >> >> -------------- next part --------------
> >> >> >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
> >> >> >> Name: ATT00021.jpg
> >> >> >> Type: image/jpeg
> >> >> >> Size: 66378 bytes
> >> >> >> Desc: not available
> >> >> >> Url :
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20090626/35dfdfe7/attachment-0001.jpg
> >> >> >> -------------- next part --------------
> >> >> >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
> >> >> >> Name: ATT00022.jpg
> >> >> >> Type: image/jpeg
> >> >> >> Size: 66234 bytes
> >> >> >> Desc: not available
> >> >> >> Url :
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20090626/35dfdfe7/attachment-0002.jpg
> >> >> >> -------------- next part --------------
> >> >> >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
> >> >> >> Name: ATT00023.jpg
> >> >> >> Type: image/jpeg
> >> >> >> Size: 60266 bytes
> >> >> >> Desc: not available
> >> >> >> Url :
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20090626/35dfdfe7/attachment-0003.jpg
> >> >> >> __________________________________________________
> >> >> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list
> >> go
> >> >> to
> >> >> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> >> >> __________________________________________________
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes
> >> for
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000006)
> >> >> >> __________________________________________________
> >> >> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list
> >> go
> >> >> to
> >> >> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> >> >> __________________________________________________
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > __________________________________________________
> >> >> > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list
> >> go
> >> >> to
> >> >> > http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> >> > __________________________________________________
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes
> >> for
> >> >> the
> >> >> > grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000006)
> >> >> > -------------- next part --------------
> >> >> > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
> >> >> > Name: Rhodes22 018.jpg
> >> >> > Type: image/jpeg
> >> >> > Size: 619679 bytes
> >> >> > Desc: not available
> >> >> > Url :
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20090627/d1da3316/attachment.jpg
> >> >> > __________________________________________________
> >> >> > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go
> >> to
> >> >> > http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> >> > __________________________________________________
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> __________________________________________________
> >> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go
> >> to
> >> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> >> __________________________________________________
> >> >>
> >> > __________________________________________________
> >> > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to
> >> > http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> > __________________________________________________
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to
> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> __________________________________________________
> >>
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>
More information about the Rhodes22-list
mailing list