[Rhodes22-list] Here is Doyle offer on UPS pricing

Caesar Paul caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 2 18:08:27 EST 2009 

Rummy,
 
If it doesn't bother you to be conspicuous on the water, then go for the yellow.  
 
Appreciate your thoughts.
 
Caesar

--- On Mon, 3/2/09, R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:

From: R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Here is Doyle offer on UPS pricing
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 7:57 AM

Ron,
I have the spike on the end that goes into the eye on the bottom of the  175. 
I use the catch to clamp it down in a lot of different places. I do have a  
pad eye on the front of the mast, but have never used this location to lock it 

down. I find the stays much more accessible from the cockpit and allow me to 
try  different configurations. Besides, after a couple of rum and cokes, I 
really  shouldn't be on the forward deck anyway. You are correct on your 
assumption that  I have the 6 to 12. It wasn't extremely expensive and
serves me well. 
Should it  happen to break or go overboard, not much to replace it. I had a 
larger and much  heavier one, but I found it to be to cumbersome and gave it to

a friend with a  much larger boat. The twist lock works fine. One of these 
days I will find out  the best places to mount it and will use a marker to mark

the different lengths  so I don't have to guess how long to extend it.
Man, just talking about sailing is starting to make it itch. We had some  
rain and snow over the weekend and the lake has come back up some. This is real
 
progress.
I have been looking at paint chips from DuPont trying to land on a color to  
paint RumRunner. She was originally blue from the factory, but since I have  
black sunshades on the sails, I can go in almost any direction. I have been  
toying with painting her either red or yellow. The yellow is a very bright  
yellow and certainly would be noticeable out on the lake. What do you all think
 
about yellow?
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 3/2/2009 10:29:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
sail at tds.net writes:

Rummy,

I am assuming that your whisker pole is the Forespar  small twistlock 6-12 
that WM has in it's catalog.  Do you have the  trigger on both ends, or the

spike on one end?  Thanks...

>>ron<<
S/V Serenity

----- Original  Message ----- 
From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
To:  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:19  AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Here is Doyle offer on UPS  pricing


> Caesar,
> I am probably one of the most stubborn  sailors on this list. I hate
having
> stuff on my boat just for the sake  of having it. It took me many years 
> before I
> broke down and  purchased a whisker pole. Having done that I am very happy

> to
>  have it stored in my V berth when not being used. It is probably the 
best
> purchase (not including rum) that I have made. There are many  ways to use

> it
> and  I'm still learning. It has made the  175 a very useful and
dynamic 
> sail.
>
>  Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 3/1/2009 9:26:29 P.M. Eastern  Standard Time,
> caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com writes:
>
>  Thanks  guys,
>
> Last Summer was my first sailing season,  having   acquired the boat in 
> early
> May.  I  sail on a lake and to date more often  than not i have 
experienced
> light winds, winds in which my 175 collapses even   when reefed somewhat. 
> As you
> may have experienced, it not fun  being dead  in open water, with no
motion 
> and
> no  shelter.  To might delight, my  wife insisted that I get  bimini.
>
> Next Problem:  I am  looking for a way to  sail on most points of sail, if

> not
> all points of sail  in  very light air.  I have found that poling out the 
>  175
> helps a lot on  reach to run legs with light winds.   Without the pole the

> 175
> collapses  on  itself.
>
> I have heard from this list that UPS allows you   to sail on most points
of
> sail in very light air, say from 2-3 mph,  and not  just on a run.  It
will 
> fill
> out,and not  collapse even in a chop,  and allow you sail slowly on any 
>  point
> of sail, even when others are dead  in the  water.
>
> Is there any lake sailor, or sailor in frequent   fickle winds, who can 
> help
> me/us get a fair sense of   the performance of the UPS on the various 
> points of
> sail,  and  not just on a run in very light air?
>
> Sailing down  wind in light  air, wing on wing, with the genny poled out
is 
>  a
> lot of fun.  Is it Rummy  who reminded us that doing the  same in a good 
> wind
> is close to extreme   sailing.
>
> The question again is: will a UPS allow a Rhodes  22  sailor to sail on 
> all,
> or most points of sail in  winds from, say  2 mph?  I am looking for a way

> to
>  beat the "dead in the water   blues."
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 3/1/09, Blue   Heron <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Blue  Heron  <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Here is Doyle  offer on UPS pricing
> To: "The  Rhodes 22 Email List" 
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date:  Sunday, March 1, 2009, 3:42  PM
>
> Caesar,
>
>  ROI = Return On Investment.  I haven't found the  UPS any better 
than the
> 175
> genny on any tack other than a run.   In  fact, the weight of the genny 
> lets
> it keep its shape  much better than the  UPS when you heel away from an 
>  almost
> dead wind.
>
> Albeit, the UPS is  effective  and fun on a run in light air.  I was once
> first over the   finish line by using my UPS.  The people on shore said my
> boat  looked  like a frigate plowing through the fleet.  Trouble was, it  
> was a
> JAM  race and the committee decided against me on  a protest, classifying 
> the
> UPS  as a spinaker rather  than a jib and only one jib allowed anywey.
>
> If you  do a  lot of downwind sailing in light air, consider getting a
UPS. 
>  I
> just haven't encountered those conditions frequent enough since I  got

> mine.
> Plus, I hate being DNQ.
>
>  Rick
>
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at  5:38 PM, Caesar Paul 
<caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>   Rick,
>>
>> Was does ROI mean?
>>
>> Have  you been ever  out sailing and there was not enough wind to fill
 out
>> the genny, and  being dead in the water, the UPS got you  moving
again?
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>  Caesar
>>
>> --- On Sun, 3/1/09, Blue Heron   <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> From: Blue  Heron  <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Here is  Doyle offer on UPS pricing
>> To: "The  Rhodes 22 Email  List"
>  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Date: Sunday, March 1,   2009, 11:13 AM
>>
>>  Since the UPS is mounted inside  the fore  stay, you need to drop it
to
>> effectively use the  genny.  The  exception to effectively using the
genny
>  is
>> when you wing-on-wing  it with the  genny.
>>
>> It doesn't make much sense to use the UPS   partially furled, so
the
> furler
>> is
>> mainly a  convenience to  deploying and stiking the sail.  I'm
averse  to
>> going
>> out  on the bow deck these days and the  furler makes it completely 
>> possible
>>  to manage  the sail fully from within the cabin with the pop top up .

>>  (You
>> wouldn't want to deploy the UPS anyway when conditions  are  not
> conducive to
>> sailing with the pop top  up.)
>>
>> I've  found I can pretty much get to wind  speed on a run using
the UPS
>>  wing-on-wing with the genny  that is is poled out.  However, I 
don't
>> think the UPS  pulls any better than the 175 genny on a reach in 
light 
>>  air.
>>
>> Since I do mainly coastal day sailing, which  means  my light air
sailing
>> is mainly on a reach to sea  breezes or coast  influenced prevailing 
>> winds,
>>  there's only a few days each season I get  an opportunity to run 
in
>> light air.  All-in-all, I've found the  UPS has the  lowest ROI of
any
>> thousand bucks I've spent on my   boat.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 28,  2009 at 6:28 PM,  cowie
<ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  >
>> > How do most people  like to use the ups, always installed  with
furling
>> >  mechanism or manual only when needed?
>>  >
>>  >
>> > R Orkin wrote:
>> > >
>>  >  >
>> > >
>>   >
>>
>>
>  
http://www.nabble.com/file/p22235080/Doyle%2BSails%2B2009%2BRhodes%2B22%2BUPS%
>  2BOffer%2B%25281%2529.pdf
>>  > >  Doyle+Sails+2009+Rhodes+22+UPS+Offer+%281%29.pdf
>> >   >
>> > > If the PDF file is not readable..
>> >  >  $644 for the Sail + 30 shipping
>> > > Add a Furling  Kit
>>  > > RWO Continuous line furler
>> >  > with control line  loop
>> > > and sheets  $225
>> > >  Contact: Paul  Beaudin
>> >  > Doyle Sailmakers 225 Fordham Street City Island, NY   10464
>> > > 800-237-4453 Email  doylesails at verizon.net
>> >  >
>>  >
>> > --
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