[Rhodes22-list] FL Sailing Trip

Tue May 12 10:03:38 EDT 2009

I have read that freezing water in plastic bottles can release some of
the compounds in the plastic and introduce carcinogens into the water.
 Not sure I would make a steady diet of the meltwater.  Same goes for
letting the water in plastic bottles get heated, as in sitting in a
hot car or cabin.

I'm not usually too worried about this stuff but this one got my attention.

Dave

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Bob Keller
<r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> As Art described, he did provide us with a remote controlled light that attached by magnet to the boom room cover.  This was plenty of light to use for reading on the trip, but we used to use a battery powered lantern/spotlight.
>
>
>
> On the fridge, I was hoping to freeze the ice box and then drink the water as it melts, but I guess I shouold use milk jugs as you suggest.
>
> Bob K
>
>> From: mweisner at ebsmed.com
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:41:33 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] FL Sailing Trip
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Looks like a real nice trip. Western FL in May is usually great weather.
>> Glad that you
>> lucked out.
>>
>> I agree, the BR is a great addition. I am budgeting for one. Is there a
>> way to deploy the canopy so that it serves the place of a bimini (under the
>> boom)? I would love to get rid of the bimini but I roast in the sun.
>>
>> I have been wondering what kind of lighting you have in the BR. We use a
>> battery powered lantern which is nice, but not really bright enough. I
>> would like to use LED rope lights along the BR frame. Has anyone found a
>> good source of rope lights that will run off 12V (rather than use the
>> inefficient AC inverter power?) Art, have you made a BR with an integral
>> lighting system?
>>
>> As far as the ice goes, I freeze water in half-gallon milk containers and
>> they last for days, probably due to less surface area than ice cubes. If
>> the container fails, I just toss it in a recycling bin. I try to find the
>> ones with screw on caps so that they do not leak into the fridge box since
>> mine is also cracked. I doubt that it can be repaired, although you may be
>> able to place a membrane inside to stop the leaks from condensate. We also
>> freeze Poland Spring half-liter bottles right out of the Costco packing.
>> They also last a pretty long time. For box lunches, we just pack a frozen
>> bottle with the lunch to keep it cold and for drinking water at lunch (if it
>> is liquid.)
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>> From: "Bob Keller" Monday, May 11, 2009 1:55 PM
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> My wife and I just returned from a trailersailing trip to southwest Florida
>> last week and I wanted to share some findings and pictures with the group.
>> We drove from Richmond Hill, GA (near Savannah) to Punta Gorda, FL (100
>> miles south of Tampa) on Saturday and it took us 7.5 hours (420 miles). Art
>> Czerwonky and Tom Simpson drove down to meet us at the municiple marina and
>> boat ramp called Laishley Park. It is a great facility and the day we got
>> there they were having a redfish tournament with professionals and ESPN
>> coverage. Other than tight parking, it did not impact us at all. This was
>> our 6th trip there in the last 7 years, but the first time we went as late
>> as May and we were rewarded with perfect weather - highs in the mid 80's and
>> winds were 10-15 knots, mostly out of the south (compared with the typical
>> 15-25 knots we usually get in April). We spent 5 nights on the boat, which
>> we both agree is our limit. Went to Tween Waters on Captiva, Cabbage Key
>> and Boca Grande which has an outstanding new (since the hurricane of '04)
>> marina that is first rate. All the facilities we visited were rebuilt in
>> the past 5 years and were all in great condition. The sailing was really
>> great on this trip because we were able to sail with the poptop up and the
>> sails all unfurled which is the first time we have ever been able to do that
>> in FL. That said, let's get to our findings:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This was the first trip we made with the Boom Room and it was the biggest
>> upgrade we have made to the trip. It makes overnighting on the boat much
>> nicer for a number of reasons. First is that it is modular in that you can
>> put up as much as you need and a little at a time. This makes assembly
>> easier because you can do it gradually. Very easy to take down and put up -
>> after my second time I was putting it up in 10-15 minutes - the top first
>> which is a great sunshade for the cockpit. Then I would put up the bow
>> screens and add the other panels as the sun moved to keep the cockpit
>> comfortable. The side panels are lightweight materials and are very easy to
>> work with, ie: you do not break a sweat putting this up. The other nice
>> aspect is that when you wake up in the morning, the cockpit is not covered
>> with dew as it used to be. Doesn't sound like a big deal, but a dry cockpit
>> also stays cleaner - after a week the boat was just as clean as when we
>> started. Last but not least, the Boom Room is very easy to stow and store
>> and does not take up a lot of space. The BR is a very nice addition and I
>> recommend it if anyone is going to be sleeping aboard for any amount of
>> time.
>> Due to the above, I will be selling my Pop-Top enclosure if anyone is
>> interested. Very good condition - all snaps & screens intact.
>> I think I got the idea on this list to actually fill up the icebox
>> (ice-holder) for the fridge with water and freeze it before going on such a
>> trip. I tried this and actually froze it for a week before the trip and it
>> works amazingly well. The ice lasted for four days compared with 1 day for
>> ice cubes! Amazing in that this would last almost the whole trip. The only
>> problem was that my box cracked on the bottom, maybe due to it being frozen
>> or being old, so as the ice melted it got the carpet in the boat wet and
>> kept it that way. Anyone else ever have that happen? I am going to try and
>> fix it with silicone or maybe get a new one from Stan. I just hope the new
>> one won't crack from freezing also...
>> This was the first time I tried out my new 150 genoa (vs. the old 175) and
>> it was a huge improvement. The boat pointed a lot better into the wind,
>> even when furled. The new sail does not slip over the furling tube like the
>> old ones did and I think the new design is much better. Just having a new
>> sail probably accounted for most of the improvement. Time will tell but I
>> expect this new sail will be much better on the coast where I sail since I
>> almost always had to furl the 175.
>> I have given up on a dinghy for the R22. I had a Sea Eagle (6H) inflatable
>> and it was a PITA to carry (bulky) and then inflate once the anchor is down.
>> So I tried to tie it off to the stern rail and drag it behind me but it
>> really was a lot of drag and it slowed us down quite a lot (I would say by 1
>> knot). Then I had patched a leak (on the seam of course) several years ago
>> and tested it out before we left and it was fine. Naturally when I inflated
>> it on day 1 the patch was leaking. Because of that I could not row it very
>> well against the wind at the anchorage. Finally when we got to the marina I
>> gave it away to some unlucky person. Glad to get that POS off the boat.
>> Not sure if anyone has the perfect inflatable for the R-22, but maybe a
>> two-person inflatable kayak? It would have to be light, compact, easy to
>> inflate/deflate, durable and of course easy to row.
>>
>>
>> That is pretty much it for this trip and these findings except that my wife
>> and I are realizing that one of the keys is to simplify and take less with
>> us rather than more. We've been taking too much of everything: clothes,
>> food and other stuff that are not needed. The simpler the better. I now
>> have her convinced to keep doing this twice a year, so October is the next
>> one.
>>
>>
>>
>> If I come up with any more "findings" I will post them.
>>
>> Bob K
>>
>>
>>
>>
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