[Rhodes22-list] Custom Tarp

Sun Sep 13 11:49:12 EDT 2009

Art,

I can't think of anything simpler than a tent tarp.  Pretty common around
here for sailboats with Awlgrip.

The mast laid from bow pulpit to transom crutch isn't that much off the
horizontal.  For many years I have used a tarp that fully encloses so I know
all about stabilizing the trailer against high winds.  A tent tarp should be
less resistant than that.

The purpose is not protection against the elements for winter projects.  It
is just to minimize snow build-up in the cockpit without getting in the way
of other things.

Rick

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Arthur H. Czerwonky <
czerwonky at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Rick,
>
> Why do you make this so complicated...
>
> I do not recommend suspending a tarp other than horizontally due to the
> uneven stress on the fabric with snow, wind, etc.  Eventually the high end
> gives out, tears, collapses under the external loads.  With winter projects
> I do see the value of covering the boat in order to stay out of the
> elements.  You could use the stubby mast approach if it and the mast atop is
> well anchored.  If you are confident with the GB crutch, at its height, in
> 60 mph sustained winds, I guess a stubby could satisfy you also.
>
> C'mon, now, think of some other impediment...
>
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> >Sent: Sep 12, 2009 2:15 PM
> >To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Custom Tarp
> >
> >Art,
> >
> >Lowering the mast to the transom rail would take away the room I enjoy for
> >winter projects, including raising the pop top.  So if I can keep the mast
> >high on the crutch and minimize snow in the cockpit, I'll be happy.  I
> also
> >have a hankering to pull the boat south during the winter and a frame
> would
> >involve more fussing around in the snow to do that.
> >
> >Rick
> >
> >On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Arthur H. Czerwonky <
> >czerwonky at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Rick,
> >>
> >> Given the Awlgrip parameters, which are also a probable preference by
> any
> >> paint makers, especially re avoiding abrasion, the draping solution is
> >> difficult, although I will say a suggested support structure can
> probably be
> >> supported from the horozontal lowered mast using a suspended frame.  It
> >> needs be strong and stable, but should accomplish your main objective by
> >> extending the fabric outward and away from painted surfaces, to fall in
> a
> >> more vertical orientation to the rub rail, then to the ground or to the
> >> rails, then to be secured.  I need to ask again, though - Can you lower
> the
> >> mast to the rail at the transom?
> >>
> >> Cost factors for any of these elaborate solutions may likely exceed your
> >> threshold of pain, even though you want to protect that awesome boat and
> >> paint job.  Any fabric structure will be severely strained with your
> defined
> >> "sustained 60mph winds".
> >>
> >> Art
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> >> >Sent: Sep 9, 2009 8:54 PM
> >> >To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Custom Tarp
> >> >
> >> >John,
> >> >
> >> >A support frame, it seems to me, would have to rest on the deck.  Also,
> >> >storing the boat a long distance away makes it difficult to accomplish
> >> >winter projects.
> >> >
> >> >Rick
> >> >
> >> >On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:03 PM, John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Rick
> >> >>
> >> >>  If you're going to try to cover the boat and not touch anything
> you'll
> >> >> need
> >> >> some sort of framework to stand the tarp off from the boat. I'm
> thinking
> >> >> 3/4" PVC pipe maybe 3 10' sections bent into hoops and held together
> >> with T
> >> >> fittings to run some stringers between the hoops and use 2' lengths
> of
> >> >> rebar
> >> >> pounded into the ground at an angle to slide the hoop legs onto. Up
> size
> >> to
> >> >> 20'X40' rectangular cover and rope it to the ground I've been
> covering
> >> >> pools
> >> >> in Pittsburgh for 20+ years with these things and the higher quality
> >> ones
> >> >> are pretty tuff. It's the stand off structure thats going to be a
> >> problem
> >> >> when the wind starts. By the way don't you live in or near Cleveland?
> >> >> Perhaps considering the time trouble and cost for all this may I
> suggest
> >> >> parking the boat indoors for this winter while the paint cures? I
> keep
> >> my
> >> >> boat in a limestone mine in Wampum Pa. (2-3 hr. tow for you) The fee
> is
> >> >> about $385.00 for 5 months storage. The boat WILL get dusty in there
> but
> >> >> sitting out the winter in relatively constant temps and humidity
> dosen't
> >> >> hurt.
> >> >>
> >> >> John S
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> John,
> >> >>
> >> >> The paint is Awlgrip.  They don't want anything touching it.
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> >>
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