[Rhodes22-list] to Leo and any other new, or planning-to-be, Rhodes owners

Wed Apr 28 17:19:47 EDT 2010

OK that is great.

Now suppose that I find a seller that is unwilling to purchase a certificate
before the sale.  Is it an option for me to submit a copy of the bill of
sale and purchase the certificate after I take possession of the boat?

Second question.  In the event that I decide not to purchase a certificate,
I am assuming that posts on this forum for repair advice etc would NOT be
viewed as attempts to circumvent the certificate program.  Is that fair?

I know that the purchase of this certificate is seen as a no-brainer by
some, but that is not necessarily true, when you consider that all of the
other boats that are on the "potential purchase" list are either out of
production or in production, but without any pro-bono manufacturer support
(e.g. a Catalina for example).  For me, it is not a *clearly* beneficial
purchase, especially when you consider that even when give the original
purchase price as a credit toward a new or recycled Rhodes, these boats are
still, and probably always will be, way outside my budget.  A discount on
parts is good, but there are other ways to deal with that issue as well.
Especially when talking about the early versions of the Rhodes which I can
afford that have fewer specialized options (like the IMF system etc).

All that being said, I can certainly appreciate the reasons why you are
putting this program in place, and I also see that there is value there. I
am just not 100% convinced that there is enough value ***for me*** to refuse
to purchase a Rhodes from someone who does not have and is not willing to
get a certificate before selling the boat to me.  This is made even more
true when my only other  option may be to purchase a boat that is inferior
to the Rhodes 22.

Eric

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:18 AM, stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

> It is on the re-sale price,
>
>  And it is voluntary since we are sensitive to being called insane for even
> suggesting such a thing.
>
> But, Eric, incase you have not heard this covered in all the pro and con
> prior posts:  While we agree with the "insane" label, we see it as being
> more appropriate from the other side of the ledger.  Just in the past few
> weeks alone several more Rhodes re-sales have been made at no cost to the
> sellers - but at a fortune cost to GB in creating these buyers for these
> sellers, through the boat shows these particular buyers have gone to over
> and over again over many years, in the investments GB has made in the
> multiple mailings, e-mails, phone call, and visits to the plant these
> buyers
> have made and the follow up investment private sales require.  A call from
> a
> completed nothing-in-it-for-GB sale just this minute came in: "how do I fix
> ....".  Of course we have been and would love to continue being of help to
> all Rhodies but unfortunately we have come to the end of GB's pro bono rope
> and have no choice but to stop the bleeding or move on to another business.
>
> stan/gbi
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Larson" <ericrobertlarson at gmail.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] to Leo and any other new, or
> planning-to-be,Rhodes owners
>
>
> Hey Stan,
>
> Just to clarify...is the fee 10% of the current sale price or the original
> boat price?  I am assuming that it is always the current owner that needs
> to
> purchase the cert, and purchasing it myself at the same time as the boat is
> not an option.
>
> I have feelers out on three boats right now, and just want to clarify the
> rules.
>
> Eric
>
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:50 AM, stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>
> > For those who appreciate the value of owning a boat that continues to
> > remain
> > in production, attached is an update on the voluntary Rhodes Certificate
> > of
> > Support program that will be strictly enforced for the sake of current
> > Rhodes owners.
> >
> > stan/gbi
> > .
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member to the group
> >
> >
> > > Leo,
> > > Welcome to the whacky world of Rhodes.
> > >
> > > Rummy
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 4/26/2010 1:22:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > lzerilli at yahoo.com writes:
> > >
> > > Hello.  My name is Leo. I'm in the final stages of buying a 2000 Rhodes
> > > 22.
> > > I should  be bringing it home on Saturday and hope to have it in the
> > water
> > > shortly  thereafter. I've been subscribed to the list for about a week
> > and
> > > have  thoroughly enjoyed the discussions. I look forward to
> contributing
> > > in
> > > the  future! I hope you won't mind my potentially basic  questions!
> > >
> > > I’ll be sailing around Marblehead, MA.
> > >
> > > Leo
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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