[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2304, Issue 1

[David Culp]

The boat doesn't require a strap-but I have a nice one and use it for one
reason-liability.  It probably won't help a thing but "reasonable" men
expect trailers to have their cargo strapped down.

David

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>   1. Re: question on hatch and misc (Stephen Staum)
>   2. Re: question on hatch and misc (Caesar Paul)
>   3. Re: question on hatch and misc (Mary Lou Troy)
>   4. Re: question on hatch and misc (Eileen and Steve)
>   5. Securing Boat To Trailer Question (Orin Harding)
>   6. Re: Securing Boat To Trailer Question (Charles Nieman)
>   7. Re: Securing Boat To Trailer Question (KUHN, LELAND)
>   8. Re: Securing Boat To Trailer Question (Lowe, Rob)
>   9. Re: Demasting (Rhodes Net)
>  10. Re: Securing Boat To Trailer Question (Michael D. Weisner)
>  11. Re: Securing Boat To Trailer Question (Arthur H. Czerwonky)
>  12. Re: Demasting (Arthur H. Czerwonky)
>  13. Re: Securing Boat To Trailer Question (Orin)
>  14. Re: Demasting (John Shulick)
>  15. Re: Securing Boat To Trailer Question (John Shulick)
>  16. Re: Securing Boat To Trailer Question (Michael D. Weisner)
>  17. Re: Securing Boat To Trailer Question (Michael D. Weisner)
>  18. Re: Securing Boat To Trailer Question (Rick)
>  19. Re: Securing Boat To Trailer Question (John Shulick)
>  20. Re: Securing Mast for Transit (Stephen Staum)
>  21. Re: Securing Mast for Transit (Michael D. Weisner)
>  22. Re: Securing Mast for Transit (Mike Cheung)
>  23. Re: Securing Mast for Transit (Melvyn Rothbard)
>  24. Re: Securing Mast for Transit (Ronald Lipton)
>  25. Re: Securing Mast for Transit (Arthur H. Czerwonky)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:07:54 -0400
> From: Stephen Staum <staum at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] question on hatch and misc
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>
> Eileen,
>
> I must respectfully disagree w Rick.   I find the lifelines helpful
> when going forward to the bow. These little boats will rock & roll in
> wind & waves.
>
> Stephen Staum
> 87 R22, Carol Lee
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 18, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Eileen,
> >
> > I second having Stan remove the lines.  Unless you have small
> > children on
> > board, on a small boat they are more likely to put you in the water
> > than
> > keep you out.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Eileen and Steve <
> eileen.e.spoon at gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Thank you all, I think we have decided on starboard.  The good news
> >> is that
> >> there is a solar panel on the other side, so we can spend half our
> >> time
> >> charging and the other half breathing.
> >>
> >> One more question, if I may.  The recycled already has life lines
> >> on it.  I
> >> suspect that we may resent them over time.  Are they easy to remove
> >> or do
> >> we
> >> ask Stan to do it?  Our original thought was to live with them for
> >> a while
> >> and see how they were, unless they were a nightmare to remove.
> >>
> >> Lastly, we just wanted to make sure that our short list of names
> >> were not
> >> already in use by the fleet.
> >>
> >> 1)  Loffel (our last name before the ancestors translated it to
> >> english)
> >> 2)  Tomato Sloop ( as the boat is red).
> >>
> >> Eileen
> >>
> >> eileen.e.spoon at ...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> couple of questions Lee....
> >>
> >> If you only had one solar panel the weight difference might make
> >> the boat
> >> tip over??? are you certain??? I would have thought that it would
> >> make the
> >> battery only charge while on a port tack ... or only half the day
> >> while in
> >> harbor????
> >>
> >> Charlie
> >>
> >>>
> >> --
> >> View this message in context:
> >>
> http://old.nabble.com/Quick-question-on-hatch-and-pop-top-enclosure-tp29440152p29471908.html
> >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 09:13:04 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] question on hatch and misc
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <823835.67930.qm at web34503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>
> Ha ha.
>
> Tomato Sloop is creative.? I have never heard of?those names?on the list.
>
> Caesar
>
> ?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Eileen and Steve <eileen.e.spoon at gmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Sent: Wed, August 18, 2010 7:24:29 AM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] question on hatch and misc
>
>
> Thank you all, I think we have decided on starboard.? The good news is that
> there is a solar panel on the other side, so we can spend half our time
> charging and the other half breathing.
>
> One more question, if I may.? The recycled already has life lines on it.? I
> suspect that we may resent them over time.? Are they easy to remove or do
> we
> ask Stan to do it?? Our original thought was to live with them for a while
> and see how they were, unless they were a nightmare to remove.
>
> Lastly, we just wanted to make sure that our short list of names were not
> already in use by the fleet.
>
> 1)? Loffel (our last name before the ancestors translated it to english)
> 2)? Tomato Sloop ( as the boat is red).
>
> Eileen
>
> eileen.e.spoon at ...
>
>
>
>
> couple of questions Lee....
>
> If you only had one solar panel the weight difference might make the boat
> tip over??? are you certain??? I would have thought that it would make the
> battery only charge while on a port tack ... or only half the day while in
> harbor????
>
> Charlie
>
> >
> --
> View this message in context:
>
> http://old.nabble.com/Quick-question-on-hatch-and-pop-top-enclosure-tp29440152p29471908.html
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:44:29 -0400
> From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] question on hatch and misc
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>
> Hi Eileen,
> Give those lifelines a long and hard look. Think about things like:
> How high are they? How well are they installed (a poor installation,
> makes lifelines more dangerous than no lifelines)? Do they have a
> gate or gates? How do you generally board the boat? Will you be
> trailering or keeping it in a slip? Where will you be sailing? Will
> you be sailing with small children? Do they add or detract from the looks?
>
> I agree with Rick that lifelines on a small boat give a false sense
> of security and may even be a hazard but I'm not sure I have any real
> data to back up that feeling. If you are pretty sure that you don't
> want them, it makes sense to have them removed and all the holes
> filled now unless one of you really likes glasswork.
>
> We don't have lifelines on Fretless and haven't missed them. The R22
> has a sturdy molded in toe rail (something I miss on some other small
> boats) and a lot of handholds with all the stays. The only place
> there isn't a good handhold is going forward of the side stays which
> I've only had to do once or twice in rough weather.
>
> As far as names go, there was once a Rhodes 22 named "Campbell's
> Sloop" but I've never seen "Tomato Sloop". I've also seen sailboats
> named "I Lean" or some variation ;-)
>
> Best to you and your new boat.
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22 Fretless
> Rock Hall, Md
>
>
>
>
> At 10:24 AM 8/18/2010, you wrote:
>
> >Thank you all, I think we have decided on starboard.  The good news is
> that
> >there is a solar panel on the other side, so we can spend half our time
> >charging and the other half breathing.
> >
> >One more question, if I may.  The recycled already has life lines on it.
>  I
> >suspect that we may resent them over time.  Are they easy to remove or do
> we
> >ask Stan to do it?  Our original thought was to live with them for a while
> >and see how they were, unless they were a nightmare to remove.
> >
> >Lastly, we just wanted to make sure that our short list of names were not
> >already in use by the fleet.
> >
> >1)  Loffel (our last name before the ancestors translated it to english)
> >2)  Tomato Sloop ( as the boat is red).
> >
> >Eileen
> >
> >eileen.e.spoon at ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >couple of questions Lee....
> >
> >If you only had one solar panel the weight difference might make the boat
> >tip over??? are you certain??? I would have thought that it would make the
> >battery only charge while on a port tack ... or only half the day while in
> >harbor????
> >
> >Charlie
> >
> > >
> >--
> >View this message in context:
> >
> http://old.nabble.com/Quick-question-on-hatch-and-pop-top-enclosure-tp29440152p29471908.html
> >Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:15:04 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Eileen and Steve <eileen.e.spoon at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] question on hatch and misc
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <29473809.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Thanks Mary Lou, what we do know is there is no gate, we will be keeping to
> boat in a slip and we have no small children.   We will be boarding just
> aft
> of the cabin.  I don't recall how high they are, so perhaps another trip to
> Edenton is in order.  One thing we had not considered is to leave them on
> toward the bow and perhaps remove the rest.
>
> As for "I Lean", Steve had thought of "Leening", but I feel like it would
> be
> an omen that I would be heeled over all of the time!!
>
> Eileeneileen.e.spoon at ...
>
>
>
> Hi Eileen,
> Give those lifelines a long and hard look. Think about things like:
> How high are they? How well are they installed (a poor installation,
> makes lifelines more dangerous than no lifelines)? Do they have a
> gate or gates? How do you generally board the boat? Will you be
> trailering or keeping it in a slip? Where will you be sailing? Will
> you be sailing with small children? Do they add or detract from the looks?
>
> I agree with Rick that lifelines on a small boat give a false sense
> of security and may even be a hazard but I'm not sure I have any real
> data to back up that feeling. If you are pretty sure that you don't
> want them, it makes sense to have them removed and all the holes
> filled now unless one of you really likes glasswork.
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://old.nabble.com/Quick-question-on-hatch-and-pop-top-enclosure-tp29440152p29473809.html
> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:28:27 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Orin Harding <wa4tbr at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
> To: Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <990365.71518.qm at web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hello,
>
> This is my first posting here and I'd like to say "HELLO" to all of the
> list
> members.
>
> I recently agreed to purchase a 1980 model Rhodes 22 and will be going to
> get it
> in a couple of weeks.
> At this time I've only seen photos and hope I don't have to backstroke when
> I
> see it in person -
>
> Normally I wouldn't agree to purchase anything from photos alone but it
> really
> does look nice and the owner genuine.
>
> The trip home to Greensboro, NC will be around 225 - 250 miles so a
> detailed
> inspection of the Triad Trailers trailer will of course be in order.
> My real concern will be how to properly secure the Rhodes to the trailer
> for
> this trip.
>
>
> I did call Stan at General Boats but all I got from him was an ear full of
> ranting about how folks were calling him looking for free advise.
> He made it very clear that if there wasn't anything (AKA money) in it for
> him
> then basically I could pound sand. - WHEW -
> I do plan on purchasing a few items from him in the future so maybe that
> will
> put him back in a good mood.
>
> What recommendations would you folks have on securing the boat to the
> trailer?
> Photos would be a great help..
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Orin
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:02:21 -0400
> From: Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <BAY151-w292A7C0BD521202A5B8713D99D0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>  Welcome Aboard!
>
> When I bought mine from Stan about 15 years ago, and went to NC to pick it
> up, the boat was only sitting on the trailer. There is a slid at the bow
> that can be extended to be tight against the boat, and allows to get the
> boat as tight to it as possible in the water, then when you drive out, the
> bow naturally shifts to be away from this brace. By sliding to be tight
> against the boat, it tends to hold the boat from vibrating during travel.
> That and having the mast, boom, etc well attached to the boat was all Stan
> did when he wished me well. I drove to Dallas that way and had no problems.
>
> That description probably sounds a little sketchy, will try to get you some
> pictures in the near future if someone else does not provide.
>
> Charles Nieman
> s/v Blue Feather
> 84 Rhodes22
>
> > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:28:27 -0700
> > From: wa4tbr at bellsouth.net
> > To: Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > This is my first posting here and I'd like to say "HELLO" to all of the
> list
> > members.
> >
> > I recently agreed to purchase a 1980 model Rhodes 22 and will be going to
> get it
> > in a couple of weeks.
> > At this time I've only seen photos and hope I don't have to backstroke
> when I
> > see it in person -
> >
> > Normally I wouldn't agree to purchase anything from photos alone but it
> really
> > does look nice and the owner genuine.
> >
> > The trip home to Greensboro, NC will be around 225 - 250 miles so a
> detailed
> > inspection of the Triad Trailers trailer will of course be in order.
> > My real concern will be how to properly secure the Rhodes to the trailer
> for
> > this trip.
> >
> >
> > I did call Stan at General Boats but all I got from him was an ear full
> of
> > ranting about how folks were calling him looking for free advise.
> > He made it very clear that if there wasn't anything (AKA money) in it for
> him
> > then basically I could pound sand. - WHEW -
> > I do plan on purchasing a few items from him in the future so maybe that
> will
> > put him back in a good mood.
> >
> > What recommendations would you folks have on securing the boat to the
> trailer?
> > Photos would be a great help..
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Orin
> > __________________________________________________
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> >
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> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:24:44 -0400
> From: "KUHN, LELAND" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <BAEF334992594C47AD272D6B69E6C3600262C592 at EXCHVS02.cnmc.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> Orin,
>
> Welcome and hopefully your Rhodes will be in satisfactory shape.
>
> Don't worry about Stan.  You can get free advice here on the list or
> paid advice from Stan.  Either way you get what you pay for.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22  AT EASE
> Kent Island, MD
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Orin Harding
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 1:28 PM
> To: Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
>
> Hello,
>
> This is my first posting here and I'd like to say "HELLO" to all of the
> list
> members.
>
> I recently agreed to purchase a 1980 model Rhodes 22 and will be going
> to get it
> in a couple of weeks.
> At this time I've only seen photos and hope I don't have to backstroke
> when I
> see it in person -
>
> Normally I wouldn't agree to purchase anything from photos alone but it
> really
> does look nice and the owner genuine.
>
> The trip home to Greensboro, NC will be around 225 - 250 miles so a
> detailed
> inspection of the Triad Trailers trailer will of course be in order.
> My real concern will be how to properly secure the Rhodes to the trailer
> for
> this trip.
>
>
> I did call Stan at General Boats but all I got from him was an ear full
> of
> ranting about how folks were calling him looking for free advise.
> He made it very clear that if there wasn't anything (AKA money) in it
> for him
> then basically I could pound sand. - WHEW -
> I do plan on purchasing a few items from him in the future so maybe that
> will
> put him back in a good mood.
>
> What recommendations would you folks have on securing the boat to the
> trailer?
> Photos would be a great help..
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Orin
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:31:54 -0400
> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
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>
> Orin,
> Welcome!
>
> Ah, already faced the wrath of Stan.  It's a bit of a sore subject with
> him, and you can't really blame him.  He gets paid to sell boats, not give
> advice.  That's what we do.  And you get what you pay for.
>
> Charles is correct that the boat will most likely stay on the trailer on
> its own, but I believe most state laws require the boat to be attached to
> the trailer.  And you really don't want to have to boat wander off on its
> own if you have to swerve or something.  I use a 3 inch strap and wrap it
> over the gunnels and around under the trailer and tighten it up.  Not too
> tight as some of those ratchets can really put some tension on the strap.
>  My strap came with my boat, so I don't know if it's the best way to do it
> or not, but it works for me.  I use something like:
>
> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_32963_32963
>
> Greensboro?  Where you planning to sail?  I'm north of you a couple of
> hours and sail on Claytor Lake. - Rob
>
> S/V Getaway
> 1976 Rhodes 22
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Charles Nieman
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:02 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
>
>
>  Welcome Aboard!
>
> When I bought mine from Stan about 15 years ago, and went to NC to pick it
> up, the boat was only sitting on the trailer. There is a slid at the bow
> that can be extended to be tight against the boat, and allows to get the
> boat as tight to it as possible in the water, then when you drive out, the
> bow naturally shifts to be away from this brace. By sliding to be tight
> against the boat, it tends to hold the boat from vibrating during travel.
> That and having the mast, boom, etc well attached to the boat was all Stan
> did when he wished me well. I drove to Dallas that way and had no problems.
>
> That description probably sounds a little sketchy, will try to get you some
> pictures in the near future if someone else does not provide.
>
> Charles Nieman
> s/v Blue Feather
> 84 Rhodes22
>
> > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:28:27 -0700
> > From: wa4tbr at bellsouth.net
> > To: Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > This is my first posting here and I'd like to say "HELLO" to all of the
> list
> > members.
> >
> > I recently agreed to purchase a 1980 model Rhodes 22 and will be going to
> get it
> > in a couple of weeks.
> > At this time I've only seen photos and hope I don't have to backstroke
> when I
> > see it in person -
> >
> > Normally I wouldn't agree to purchase anything from photos alone but it
> really
> > does look nice and the owner genuine.
> >
> > The trip home to Greensboro, NC will be around 225 - 250 miles so a
> detailed
> > inspection of the Triad Trailers trailer will of course be in order.
> > My real concern will be how to properly secure the Rhodes to the trailer
> for
> > this trip.
> >
> >
> > I did call Stan at General Boats but all I got from him was an ear full
> of
> > ranting about how folks were calling him looking for free advise.
> > He made it very clear that if there wasn't anything (AKA money) in it for
> him
> > then basically I could pound sand. - WHEW -
> > I do plan on purchasing a few items from him in the future so maybe that
> will
> > put him back in a good mood.
> >
> > What recommendations would you folks have on securing the boat to the
> trailer?
> > Photos would be a great help..
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Orin
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:01:45 -0700
> From: Rhodes Net <bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Demasting
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <152B4E46-CC9A-49F9-8616-87DA1CB139C7 at bellsouth.net>
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> A strong padeye through bolted with sturdy backing plate would be my
> option.
>
> Bob on R22 "NoKaOi 3"
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 18, 2010, at 5:42 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>
> > Hank,
> > I would want any hardware for flying a UPS attached to something a little
> > stronger than a bolt through the deck. I want to see what his current
> > hardware  looks like before offering any advice.
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 8/18/2010 8:07:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > hnw555 at gmail.com writes:
> >
> > Isn't  that hole where you would attach a UPS?  He always has the
> > option of  adding the UPS also.
> >
> > Hank
> >
> > On 8/18/10, R22RumRunner at aol.com  <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> >> John and David,
> >> To be  sure, we don't really know what he has on the bow for a stay or
> >> anchor  attachment. He has promised more photo's this weekend. It will
> be
> >> easier
> >> to decide what to do once we know what hardware he has. I  agree, the
> hole
> >> needs  to be resealed and never used again. Duct  tape underneath and
> then
> >> fill with  epoxy gets my  vote.
> >>
> >> Rummy
> >>
> >>
> >> In a message dated  8/17/2010 6:23:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >> jlock at relevantarts.com  writes:
> >>
> >> Agreed,  your explanation is much clearer (and  more accurate) than
> >> mine.  I also missed the part where the nut  had actually backed  off,
> >> so maybe the deck core is sound and a  proper forestay  attachment is
> >> all that's needed.
> >>
> >> Cheers!
> >> John  Lock
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> s/v Pandion  - '79 Rhodes 22
> >> Lake Sinclair,  GA
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >>
> >> On Aug 17, 2010, at 18:03, David  Culp  wrote:
> >>> John:
> >>>
> >>>> Clearly  attaching the forestay in  that manner was dangerously
> >>>> inadequate.
> >>> That part  of the deck is not reinforced to  handle the loads
> >>> generated by  a
> >>> full jib under  sail.>
> >>>
> >>> A little clarification  here.  The  deck can certainly handle the load
> >>> of a
> >>> mere  jib.  I have through-bolted an eye just behind my furler for   my
> >>> new UPS
> >>> sail which is basically a light weight  155%  genoa.  It was done
> >>> correctly
> >>> with a  large  diameter bolt-eye with backing plate and the other
> >>> attach  point
> >>> is on the upper mast.  When sailing, the  deck mounting  takes some of
> >>> the
> >>> load of the UPS  but the rest is  spread to the rig.  What I think you
> >>> meant
> >>> to say  was that the deck is not designed to take the  full load of
> >>> the  whole
> >>> rig which is the mast,  boom and all the wind forces generated by  the
> >>> whole
> >>> sail plan.  That I agree with, it is not  intended  to do that  but it
> >>> speaks
> >>> to the  stoutness  of our decks that it was doing it in this case-
> >>> until   the
> >>> nut came off.  NO WAY would I ever set this rig up in  that  manner
> >>> again.
> >>> The only thing the forestay  was  accomplishing was taking enough of
> >>> the load
> >>> preventing  the failure of the the lower shroud which looks like it
>  was
> >>> shouldering most of the load.  Shrouds that carry  the load of the
> >>> whole sail
> >>> plan should ALWAYS be  attached to  chain-plates.
> >>>
> >>> IMO-Bill needs to  bolt-seal the deck hole, get a  pulpit hanger for
> his
> >>> anchor  and use a chain-strap on the bow to  re-attach the  forestay.
> >>>
> >>> David   Culp
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org  [mailto:
> >>> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John  Lock
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:53 AM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22   Email List
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Demasting
> >>>
> >>> Clearly attaching the forestay in that  manner was dangerously
> >>> inadequate.  That part of the  deck is not reinforced to handle  the
> >>> loads generated by a  full jib under sail.
> >>>
> >>> Since  your boat seems to  have something different about the anchor
> >>> installation, you  need to consider two alternatives:
> >>>
> >>> 1) Remove  the  anchor and mount it in some other fashion so the
> >>> forestay and  can  be attached to a bow-mounted chainplate and  secured
> >>> properly.
> >>>
> >>> 2) Barring that,  you should reinforce under the deck  where the bolt
> >>> passes  thru with some stiff marine plywood or a  chainplate and use
>  one
> >>> or two big, wide fender washers under the nut  to spread  the load out.
> >>> Even so, I'd be cautious about that solution   since the deck wasn't
> >>> designed to do that.  You also have a  nice  hole to leak into the
> >>> forepeak and deck core... sealing  will be  critical.
> >>>
> >>> Come to think of it... that  may be why the rig  failed!  Water leaking
> >>> thru that  mounting hole softened the deck  core and allowed the washer
> >>> and nut to be pulled straight thru.   Better check that area  carefully
> >>> and repair the deck core as   necessary.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers!
> >>> John  Lock
> >>>  __________________________________________________
> >>> To   subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
> >>> For the  list Charter and help with using the mailing list  and
> >>> archives  go to  http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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> >>>
> >>
> >> __________________________________________________
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> >>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:33:17 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <65E4BFA30A0045B2A29BB0CDF6B9C183 at ebsoffice>
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>        reply-type=original
>
> Orin,
>
> Welcome to "da list."
>
> Stan means well ... well he means ... Oh well, as we say in NY
> fagetaboutit!
>
> Both he and you will get over it.  You could butter him up by paying his
> "loyalty fee" (5% of the selling price.)  How much could you have paid for
> a
> 1980?  Believe me, if the 5% seems to be a lot, you have no idea what a
> sailboat will cost (BOAT, Break Out Another Thousand.)
>
> As far as the trailer goes, do you have an original Rhode/Triad Unimatic
> trailer.  If so, they were sold without straps in 1980 since the boat will
> not easily come off the bunks, unless it is floating.  These are float-on
> style trailers without rollers (except for the centerboard.)  For any other
> style trailer, take proper precautions.
>
> The newest GBI trailers have two pairs of strap tiedowns that are fitted
> with yellow straps for the safety folks in the crowd, although I have my
> doubts that they will stop the boat from leaving the trailer if suitably
> determined (except floating.)  See the picture at:
>
> http://raeid23.raenet.com/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20080612/556d72e3/attachment.JPG
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3x2p5x3
>
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
> From: "Orin Harding"  Wednesday, August 18, 2010 1:28 PM
> > Hello,
> >
> > This is my first posting here and I'd like to say "HELLO" to all of the
> > list
> > members.
> >
> > I recently agreed to purchase a 1980 model Rhodes 22 and will be going to
> > get it
> > in a couple of weeks.
> > At this time I've only seen photos and hope I don't have to backstroke
> > when I
> > see it in person -
> >
> > Normally I wouldn't agree to purchase anything from photos alone but it
> > really
> > does look nice and the owner genuine.
> >
> > The trip home to Greensboro, NC will be around 225 - 250 miles so a
> > detailed
> > inspection of the Triad Trailers trailer will of course be in order.
> > My real concern will be how to properly secure the Rhodes to the trailer
> > for
> > this trip.
> >
> >
> > I did call Stan at General Boats but all I got from him was an ear full
> of
> > ranting about how folks were calling him looking for free advise.
> > He made it very clear that if there wasn't anything (AKA money) in it for
> > him
> > then basically I could pound sand. - WHEW -
> > I do plan on purchasing a few items from him in the future so maybe that
> > will
> > put him back in a good mood.
> >
> > What recommendations would you folks have on securing the boat to the
> > trailer?
> > Photos would be a great help..
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Orin
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:13:41 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
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>
> Orin,
>
> You will find Rob's assesment partly true.  If you have a camera and a
> problem, bring it to the list for a responsive and timely solution.  Rob and
> the other skippers mostly know our stuff on this boat and don't ask for
> anything.  Who was the prior owner and where will you trail the boat from?
>  Look it over well and happy sailing!
>
> Art
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> >Sent: Aug 18, 2010 2:31 PM
> >To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
> >
> >Orin,
> >Welcome!
> >
> >Ah, already faced the wrath of Stan.  It's a bit of a sore subject with
> him, and you can't really blame him.  He gets paid to sell boats, not give
> advice.  That's what we do.  And you get what you pay for.
> >
> >Charles is correct that the boat will most likely stay on the trailer on
> its own, but I believe most state laws require the boat to be attached to
> the trailer.  And you really don't want to have to boat wander off on its
> own if you have to swerve or something.  I use a 3 inch strap and wrap it
> over the gunnels and around under the trailer and tighten it up.  Not too
> tight as some of those ratchets can really put some tension on the strap.
>  My strap came with my boat, so I don't know if it's the best way to do it
> or not, but it works for me.  I use something like:
> >
> >http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_32963_32963
> >
> >Greensboro?  Where you planning to sail?  I'm north of you a couple of
> hours and sail on Claytor Lake. - Rob
> >
> >S/V Getaway
> >1976 Rhodes 22
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Charles Nieman
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:02 PM
> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
> >
> >
> > Welcome Aboard!
> >
> >When I bought mine from Stan about 15 years ago, and went to NC to pick it
> up, the boat was only sitting on the trailer. There is a slid at the bow
> that can be extended to be tight against the boat, and allows to get the
> boat as tight to it as possible in the water, then when you drive out, the
> bow naturally shifts to be away from this brace. By sliding to be tight
> against the boat, it tends to hold the boat from vibrating during travel.
> That and having the mast, boom, etc well attached to the boat was all Stan
> did when he wished me well. I drove to Dallas that way and had no problems.
> >
> >That description probably sounds a little sketchy, will try to get you
> some pictures in the near future if someone else does not provide.
> >
> >Charles Nieman
> >s/v Blue Feather
> >84 Rhodes22
> >
> >> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:28:27 -0700
> >> From: wa4tbr at bellsouth.net
> >> To: Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> This is my first posting here and I'd like to say "HELLO" to all of the
> list
> >> members.
> >>
> >> I recently agreed to purchase a 1980 model Rhodes 22 and will be going
> to get it
> >> in a couple of weeks.
> >> At this time I've only seen photos and hope I don't have to backstroke
> when I
> >> see it in person -
> >>
> >> Normally I wouldn't agree to purchase anything from photos alone but it
> really
> >> does look nice and the owner genuine.
> >>
> >> The trip home to Greensboro, NC will be around 225 - 250 miles so a
> detailed
> >> inspection of the Triad Trailers trailer will of course be in order.
> >> My real concern will be how to properly secure the Rhodes to the trailer
> for
> >> this trip.
> >>
> >>
> >> I did call Stan at General Boats but all I got from him was an ear full
> of
> >> ranting about how folks were calling him looking for free advise.
> >> He made it very clear that if there wasn't anything (AKA money) in it
> for him
> >> then basically I could pound sand. - WHEW -
> >> I do plan on purchasing a few items from him in the future so maybe that
> will
> >> put him back in a good mood.
> >>
> >> What recommendations would you folks have on securing the boat to the
> trailer?
> >> Photos would be a great help..
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> Orin
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>
> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> __________________________________________________
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> >To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> >For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >__________________________________________________
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> >To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> >For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >__________________________________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:04:44 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Demasting
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>
> I use a setup similar to what a bow sprit would look like.  The bow eye is
> made to the peak of the bow pulpit, and the foot of the sail would attach at
> the bow pulpit at this same point, probably using a furler.  Very busy
> geriatric foredeck!
>
>
> Art
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Rhodes Net <bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net>
> >Sent: Aug 18, 2010 4:01 PM
> >To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Demasting
> >
> >A strong padeye through bolted with sturdy backing plate would be my
> option.
> >
> >Bob on R22 "NoKaOi 3"
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >On Aug 18, 2010, at 5:42 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> Hank,
> >> I would want any hardware for flying a UPS attached to something a
> little
> >> stronger than a bolt through the deck. I want to see what his current
> >> hardware  looks like before offering any advice.
> >>
> >> Rummy
> >>
> >>
> >> In a message dated 8/18/2010 8:07:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >> hnw555 at gmail.com writes:
> >>
> >> Isn't  that hole where you would attach a UPS?  He always has the
> >> option of  adding the UPS also.
> >>
> >> Hank
> >>
> >> On 8/18/10, R22RumRunner at aol.com  <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> >>> John and David,
> >>> To be  sure, we don't really know what he has on the bow for a stay or
> >>> anchor  attachment. He has promised more photo's this weekend. It will
> be
> >>> easier
> >>> to decide what to do once we know what hardware he has. I  agree, the
> hole
> >>> needs  to be resealed and never used again. Duct  tape underneath and
> then
> >>> fill with  epoxy gets my  vote.
> >>>
> >>> Rummy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated  8/17/2010 6:23:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >>> jlock at relevantarts.com  writes:
> >>>
> >>> Agreed,  your explanation is much clearer (and  more accurate) than
> >>> mine.  I also missed the part where the nut  had actually backed  off,
> >>> so maybe the deck core is sound and a  proper forestay  attachment is
> >>> all that's needed.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers!
> >>> John  Lock
> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>> s/v Pandion  - '79 Rhodes 22
> >>> Lake Sinclair,  GA
> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 17, 2010, at 18:03, David  Culp  wrote:
> >>>> John:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Clearly  attaching the forestay in  that manner was dangerously
> >>>>> inadequate.
> >>>> That part  of the deck is not reinforced to  handle the loads
> >>>> generated by  a
> >>>> full jib under  sail.>
> >>>>
> >>>> A little clarification  here.  The  deck can certainly handle the load
> >>>> of a
> >>>> mere  jib.  I have through-bolted an eye just behind my furler for
> my
> >>>> new UPS
> >>>> sail which is basically a light weight  155%  genoa.  It was done
> >>>> correctly
> >>>> with a  large  diameter bolt-eye with backing plate and the other
> >>>> attach  point
> >>>> is on the upper mast.  When sailing, the  deck mounting  takes some of
> >>>> the
> >>>> load of the UPS  but the rest is  spread to the rig.  What I think you
> >>>> meant
> >>>> to say  was that the deck is not designed to take the  full load of
> >>>> the  whole
> >>>> rig which is the mast,  boom and all the wind forces generated by  the
> >>>> whole
> >>>> sail plan.  That I agree with, it is not  intended  to do that  but it
> >>>> speaks
> >>>> to the  stoutness  of our decks that it was doing it in this case-
> >>>> until   the
> >>>> nut came off.  NO WAY would I ever set this rig up in  that  manner
> >>>> again.
> >>>> The only thing the forestay  was  accomplishing was taking enough of
> >>>> the load
> >>>> preventing  the failure of the the lower shroud which looks like it
>  was
> >>>> shouldering most of the load.  Shrouds that carry  the load of the
> >>>> whole sail
> >>>> plan should ALWAYS be  attached to  chain-plates.
> >>>>
> >>>> IMO-Bill needs to  bolt-seal the deck hole, get a  pulpit hanger for
> his
> >>>> anchor  and use a chain-strap on the bow to  re-attach the  forestay.
> >>>>
> >>>> David   Culp
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org  [mailto:
> >>>> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John  Lock
> >>>> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:53 AM
> >>>> To: The Rhodes 22   Email List
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Demasting
> >>>>
> >>>> Clearly attaching the forestay in that  manner was dangerously
> >>>> inadequate.  That part of the  deck is not reinforced to handle  the
> >>>> loads generated by a  full jib under sail.
> >>>>
> >>>> Since  your boat seems to  have something different about the anchor
> >>>> installation, you  need to consider two alternatives:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) Remove  the  anchor and mount it in some other fashion so the
> >>>> forestay and  can  be attached to a bow-mounted chainplate and
>  secured
> >>>> properly.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2) Barring that,  you should reinforce under the deck  where the bolt
> >>>> passes  thru with some stiff marine plywood or a  chainplate and use
>  one
> >>>> or two big, wide fender washers under the nut  to spread  the load
> out.
> >>>> Even so, I'd be cautious about that solution   since the deck wasn't
> >>>> designed to do that.  You also have a  nice  hole to leak into the
> >>>> forepeak and deck core... sealing  will be  critical.
> >>>>
> >>>> Come to think of it... that  may be why the rig  failed!  Water
> leaking
> >>>> thru that  mounting hole softened the deck  core and allowed the
> washer
> >>>> and nut to be pulled straight thru.   Better check that area
>  carefully
> >>>> and repair the deck core as   necessary.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers!
> >>>> John  Lock
> >>>>  __________________________________________________
> >>>> To   subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>>
> >>>> For the  list Charter and help with using the mailing list  and
> >>>> archives  go to  http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >>>>  __________________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To   subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
> >>> For the  list  Charter and help with using the mailing list and
> archives
> >> go
> >>> to  http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
> >>> For the  list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> >> go to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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> >>
> >> For the list  Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go
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> >>
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> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>
> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> __________________________________________________
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> >To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> >For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >__________________________________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:49:04 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Orin <wa4tbr at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <29476843.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Hi Guys and thanks for the replies..
>
> As some of you have said, Stan doesn't get paid for giving "free" advise
> but
> I don't think he needed to be quite so...well, lets say less than
> gentlemanly dealing with someone for the first time. If all he wants to do
> is sell boats then I would suggest that he would get more sales using honey
> than vinegar. You never know when someone on the other end may become a
> customer. 'Nuff said on that subject!!!
>
> Mike - Thanks for the photo of your boat and trailer. That looks like what
> I
> had in mind (the strap) I just wanted to hear from folks that had
> experience
> and not make an expensive mistake.
>
> I plan on sailing on Belews Lake this Fall to get used to the boat. We will
> then graduate to the rivers, inlets, and sound around Washington, NC next
> Spring.
>
> Orin
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://old.nabble.com/Securing-Boat-To-Trailer-Question-tp29473954p29476843.html
> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:58:12 -0700 (PDT)
> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Demasting
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <29476900.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> I agree with this
>
>
>
>
> To be sure, we don't really know what he has on the bow for a stay or
> anchor attachment. He has promised more photo's this weekend. It will be
> easier
> to decide what to do once we know what hardware he has. I agree, the hole
> needs  to be resealed and never used again. Duct tape underneath and then
> fill with  epoxy gets my vote.
>
> And
>
> jlock at relevantarts.com writes:
>
> Agreed,  your explanation is much clearer (and more accurate) than
> mine.  I also missed the part where the nut had actually backed  off,
> so maybe the deck core is sound and a proper forestay  attachment is
> all that's needed.
>
> John S
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://old.nabble.com/Demasting-tp29439315p29476900.html
> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:14:18 -0700 (PDT)
> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <29477006.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> HI Orin,
>
> Welcome, I hope you have a good time exploring your new toy and finding
> your
> way around the rhodes 22 as the rest of us have. You will find this forum
> to
> be very valuable in terms of info and options concerning our boat. This
> info
> includes alternate places to find parts for your boat and/or trailer should
> stan desire not to make money off of you. Don't hesitate to ask, this list
> is very gracious about sharing knowledge.
>
> Best of luck
> John Shulick
> 71 rhodes
>
>
> Orin wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > This is my first posting here and I'd like to say "HELLO" to all of the
> > list
> > members.
> >
> > I recently agreed to purchase a 1980 model Rhodes 22 and will be going to
> > get it
> > in a couple of weeks.
> > At this time I've only seen photos and hope I don't have to backstroke
> > when I
> > see it in person -
> >
> > Normally I wouldn't agree to purchase anything from photos alone but it
> > really
> > does look nice and the owner genuine.
> >
> > The trip home to Greensboro, NC will be around 225 - 250 miles so a
> > detailed
> > inspection of the Triad Trailers trailer will of course be in order.
> > My real concern will be how to properly secure the Rhodes to the trailer
> > for
> > this trip.
> >
> >
> > I did call Stan at General Boats but all I got from him was an ear full
> of
> > ranting about how folks were calling him looking for free advise.
> > He made it very clear that if there wasn't anything (AKA money) in it for
> > him
> > then basically I could pound sand. - WHEW -
> > I do plan on purchasing a few items from him in the future so maybe that
> > will
> > put him back in a good mood.
> >
> > What recommendations would you folks have on securing the boat to the
> > trailer?
> > Photos would be a great help..
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Orin
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://old.nabble.com/Securing-Boat-To-Trailer-Question-tp29473954p29477006.html
> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 19:22:59 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <B2990D3ACCB242989000F5BD639F1EC6 at ebsoffice>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>        reply-type=original
>
> Orin,
>
> The photo is of Caesar Paul and Ron Singerman.  I believe that the picture
> is of Ron's boat (Serenity.)
>
> Caesar's boat is this beauty:
>
> http://raeid23.raenet.com/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20080612/6d77f137/attachment-0001.JPG
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2bs57tk
>
> Yes, in your next life, you will want a trailer like Caesar's twin-axle.
> Remember, he trailered his boat cross country, a bit more than 250 miles.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
> From: "Orin" Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:49 PM
> >
> > Hi Guys and thanks for the replies..
> >
> > As some of you have said, Stan doesn't get paid for giving "free" advise
> > but
> > I don't think he needed to be quite so...well, lets say less than
> > gentlemanly dealing with someone for the first time. If all he wants to
> do
> > is sell boats then I would suggest that he would get more sales using
> > honey
> > than vinegar. You never know when someone on the other end may become a
> > customer. 'Nuff said on that subject!!!
> >
> > Mike - Thanks for the photo of your boat and trailer. That looks like
> what
> > I
> > had in mind (the strap) I just wanted to hear from folks that had
> > experience
> > and not make an expensive mistake.
> >
> > I plan on sailing on Belews Lake this Fall to get used to the boat. We
> > will
> > then graduate to the rivers, inlets, and sound around Washington, NC next
> > Spring.
> >
> > Orin
> >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
> http://old.nabble.com/Securing-Boat-To-Trailer-Question-tp29473954p29476843.html
> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 19:25:30 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <B6410DE02A214A5C9DD658B12B196DCE at ebsoffice>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>        reply-type=original
>
> John,
>
> Did you actually refer to da list as gracious?  What have you been
> drinking?
>
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "John Shulick" Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:14 PM
> >
> > HI Orin,
> >
> > Welcome, I hope you have a good time exploring your new toy and finding
> > your
> > way around the rhodes 22 as the rest of us have. You will find this forum
> > to
> > be very valuable in terms of info and options concerning our boat. This
> > info
> > includes alternate places to find parts for your boat and/or trailer
> > should
> > stan desire not to make money off of you. Don't hesitate to ask, this
> list
> > is very gracious about sharing knowledge.
> >
> > Best of luck
> > John Shulick
> > 71 rhodes
> >
> >
> > Orin wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> This is my first posting here and I'd like to say "HELLO" to all of the
> >> list
> >> members.
> >>
> >> I recently agreed to purchase a 1980 model Rhodes 22 and will be going
> to
> >> get it
> >> in a couple of weeks.
> >> At this time I've only seen photos and hope I don't have to backstroke
> >> when I
> >> see it in person -
> >>
> >> Normally I wouldn't agree to purchase anything from photos alone but it
> >> really
> >> does look nice and the owner genuine.
> >>
> >> The trip home to Greensboro, NC will be around 225 - 250 miles so a
> >> detailed
> >> inspection of the Triad Trailers trailer will of course be in order.
> >> My real concern will be how to properly secure the Rhodes to the trailer
> >> for
> >> this trip.
> >>
> >>
> >> I did call Stan at General Boats but all I got from him was an ear full
> >> of
> >> ranting about how folks were calling him looking for free advise.
> >> He made it very clear that if there wasn't anything (AKA money) in it
> for
> >> him
> >> then basically I could pound sand. - WHEW -
> >> I do plan on purchasing a few items from him in the future so maybe that
> >> will
> >> put him back in a good mood.
> >>
> >> What recommendations would you folks have on securing the boat to the
> >> trailer?
> >> Photos would be a great help..
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> Orin
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>
> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go
> >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> __________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
> http://old.nabble.com/Securing-Boat-To-Trailer-Question-tp29473954p29477006.html
> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 19:45:26 -0400
> From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <AANLkTikkaWWbf1Oc9+1Q3tcPoTD3pgcKH=BjFOMZ0Sfd at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Probably rum.
>
> Rick
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com
> >wrote:
>
> > John,
> >
> > Did you actually refer to da list as gracious?  What have you been
> > drinking?
> >
> >
> > Mike
> > s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> > Nissequogue River, NY
> >
> > From: "John Shulick" Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:14 PM
> > >
> > > HI Orin,
> > >
> > > Welcome, I hope you have a good time exploring your new toy and finding
> > > your
> > > way around the rhodes 22 as the rest of us have. You will find this
> forum
> > > to
> > > be very valuable in terms of info and options concerning our boat. This
> > > info
> > > includes alternate places to find parts for your boat and/or trailer
> > > should
> > > stan desire not to make money off of you. Don't hesitate to ask, this
> > list
> > > is very gracious about sharing knowledge.
> > >
> > > Best of luck
> > > John Shulick
> > > 71 rhodes
> > >
> > >
> > > Orin wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> This is my first posting here and I'd like to say "HELLO" to all of
> the
> > >> list
> > >> members.
> > >>
> > >> I recently agreed to purchase a 1980 model Rhodes 22 and will be going
> > to
> > >> get it
> > >> in a couple of weeks.
> > >> At this time I've only seen photos and hope I don't have to backstroke
> > >> when I
> > >> see it in person -
> > >>
> > >> Normally I wouldn't agree to purchase anything from photos alone but
> it
> > >> really
> > >> does look nice and the owner genuine.
> > >>
> > >> The trip home to Greensboro, NC will be around 225 - 250 miles so a
> > >> detailed
> > >> inspection of the Triad Trailers trailer will of course be in order.
> > >> My real concern will be how to properly secure the Rhodes to the
> trailer
> > >> for
> > >> this trip.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I did call Stan at General Boats but all I got from him was an ear
> full
> > >> of
> > >> ranting about how folks were calling him looking for free advise.
> > >> He made it very clear that if there wasn't anything (AKA money) in it
> > for
> > >> him
> > >> then basically I could pound sand. - WHEW -
> > >> I do plan on purchasing a few items from him in the future so maybe
> that
> > >> will
> > >> put him back in a good mood.
> > >>
> > >> What recommendations would you folks have on securing the boat to the
> > >> trailer?
> > >> Photos would be a great help..
> > >>
> > >> Thanks in advance,
> > >> Orin
> > >> __________________________________________________
> > >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> > >>
> > >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> > go
> > >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > >> __________________________________________________
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > View this message in context:
> > >
> >
> http://old.nabble.com/Securing-Boat-To-Trailer-Question-tp29473954p29477006.html
> > > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> > >
> > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go
> > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > > __________________________________________________
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:42:15 -0700 (PDT)
> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Boat To Trailer Question
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <29477744.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> A fair portion as well : actually although I was tempted to poke the
> sleeping
> dragon I decided to give it a rest in the interests of sailing in general.
>
> Time for another
> John S
>
> "WHY IS THE RUM ALWAYS GONE!!!" Captain Jack Sparrow
>
>
>
> Blue Heron wrote:
> >
> > Probably rum.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Michael D. Weisner
> > <mweisner at ebsmed.com>wrote:
> >
> >> John,
> >>
> >> Did you actually refer to da list as gracious?  What have you been
> >> drinking?
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> >> Nissequogue River, NY
> >>
> >> From: "John Shulick" Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:14 PM
> >> >
> >> > HI Orin,
> >> >
> >> > Welcome, I hope you have a good time exploring your new toy and
> finding
> >> > your
> >> > way around the rhodes 22 as the rest of us have. You will find this
> >> forum
> >> > to
> >> > be very valuable in terms of info and options concerning our boat.
> This
> >> > info
> >> > includes alternate places to find parts for your boat and/or trailer
> >> > should
> >> > stan desire not to make money off of you. Don't hesitate to ask, this
> >> list
> >> > is very gracious about sharing knowledge.
> >> >
> >> > Best of luck
> >> > John Shulick
> >> > 71 rhodes
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Orin wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hello,
> >> >>
> >> >> This is my first posting here and I'd like to say "HELLO" to all of
> >> the
> >> >> list
> >> >> members.
> >> >>
> >> >> I recently agreed to purchase a 1980 model Rhodes 22 and will be
> going
> >> to
> >> >> get it
> >> >> in a couple of weeks.
> >> >> At this time I've only seen photos and hope I don't have to
> backstroke
> >> >> when I
> >> >> see it in person -
> >> >>
> >> >> Normally I wouldn't agree to purchase anything from photos alone but
> >> it
> >> >> really
> >> >> does look nice and the owner genuine.
> >> >>
> >> >> The trip home to Greensboro, NC will be around 225 - 250 miles so a
> >> >> detailed
> >> >> inspection of the Triad Trailers trailer will of course be in order.
> >> >> My real concern will be how to properly secure the Rhodes to the
> >> trailer
> >> >> for
> >> >> this trip.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I did call Stan at General Boats but all I got from him was an ear
> >> full
> >> >> of
> >> >> ranting about how folks were calling him looking for free advise.
> >> >> He made it very clear that if there wasn't anything (AKA money) in it
> >> for
> >> >> him
> >> >> then basically I could pound sand. - WHEW -
> >> >> I do plan on purchasing a few items from him in the future so maybe
> >> that
> >> >> will
> >> >> put him back in a good mood.
> >> >>
> >> >> What recommendations would you folks have on securing the boat to the
> >> >> trailer?
> >> >> Photos would be a great help..
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> >> Orin
> >> >> __________________________________________________
> >> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >> >>
> >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
> archives
> >> go
> >> >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> >> __________________________________________________
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > View this message in context:
> >> >
> >>
> http://old.nabble.com/Securing-Boat-To-Trailer-Question-tp29473954p29477006.html
> >> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >> >
> >> > __________________________________________________
> >> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >> >
> >> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> >> go
> >> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> > __________________________________________________
> >>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>
> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go
> >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> __________________________________________________
> >>
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://old.nabble.com/Securing-Boat-To-Trailer-Question-tp29473954p29477744.html
> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:41:58 -0400
> From: Stephen Staum <staum at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Mast for Transit
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <7DA210E8-4FAB-41B8-A75F-35F903A4C392 at earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=us-ascii;       format=flowed;
>  delsp=yes
>
> Dear All,
>
> The pic of Ron's boat reminds me of a question. Does everyone w the
> mast raising system go down the road w the mast unsupported in the
> middle? I was not happy w the amount of flex in the mast while
> driving. I will fabricate a wood support that will mount to the mast
> mount & support the mast mid-ship to cut the flex. Does that make sense?
>
> Stephen Staum
> 87 R22, Carol Lee
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 18, 2010, at 7:22 PM, "Michael D. Weisner"
> <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
>
> > Orin,
> >
> > The photo is of Caesar Paul and Ron Singerman.  I believe that the
> > picture
> > is of Ron's boat (Serenity.)
> >
> > Caesar's boat is this beauty:
> >
> http://raeid23.raenet.com/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20080612/6d77f137/attachment-0001.JPG
> >
> > or
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/2bs57tk
> >
> > Yes, in your next life, you will want a trailer like Caesar's twin-
> > axle.
> > Remember, he trailered his boat cross country, a bit more than 250
> > miles.
> >
> > Mike
> > s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> > Nissequogue River, NY
> >
> >
> > From: "Orin" Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:49 PM
> >>
> >> Hi Guys and thanks for the replies..
> >>
> >> As some of you have said, Stan doesn't get paid for giving "free"
> >> advise
> >> but
> >> I don't think he needed to be quite so...well, lets say less than
> >> gentlemanly dealing with someone for the first time. If all he
> >> wants to do
> >> is sell boats then I would suggest that he would get more sales using
> >> honey
> >> than vinegar. You never know when someone on the other end may
> >> become a
> >> customer. 'Nuff said on that subject!!!
> >>
> >> Mike - Thanks for the photo of your boat and trailer. That looks
> >> like what
> >> I
> >> had in mind (the strap) I just wanted to hear from folks that had
> >> experience
> >> and not make an expensive mistake.
> >>
> >> I plan on sailing on Belews Lake this Fall to get used to the boat.
> >> We
> >> will
> >> then graduate to the rivers, inlets, and sound around Washington,
> >> NC next
> >> Spring.
> >>
> >> Orin
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> View this message in context:
> >>
> http://old.nabble.com/Securing-Boat-To-Trailer-Question-tp29473954p29476843.html
> >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>
> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
> >> archives go
> >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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> Message: 21
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:56:37 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Mast for Transit
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <7DB1CD28F5C148D0B350A61376C72663 at acer7e8cb8aec8>
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>
> I agree with you that a midspan support wouldn't hurt.
>
> You may want to look at using pvc plastic pipe product instead of wood.  It
> is inexpensive, lightweight and fairly strong.  Glue only those joints that
> do not need to be separated for compact storage.  Drill holes through the
> fittings and the pipe and insert fastpins if more than a snug fit is
> desired.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "Stephen Staum" Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:41 PM
> > Dear All,
> >
> > The pic of Ron's boat reminds me of a question. Does everyone w the
> > mast raising system go down the road w the mast unsupported in the
> > middle? I was not happy w the amount of flex in the mast while
> > driving. I will fabricate a wood support that will mount to the mast
> > mount & support the mast mid-ship to cut the flex. Does that make sense?
> >
> > Stephen Staum
> > 87 R22, Carol Lee
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Aug 18, 2010, at 7:22 PM, "Michael D. Weisner"
> > <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Orin,
> >>
> >> The photo is of Caesar Paul and Ron Singerman.  I believe that the
> >> picture
> >> is of Ron's boat (Serenity.)
> >>
> >> Caesar's boat is this beauty:
> >>
> http://raeid23.raenet.com/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20080612/6d77f137/attachment-0001.JPG
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/2bs57tk
> >>
> >> Yes, in your next life, you will want a trailer like Caesar's twin-
> >> axle.
> >> Remember, he trailered his boat cross country, a bit more than 250
> >> miles.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> >> Nissequogue River, NY
> >>
> >>
> >> From: "Orin" Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:49 PM
> >>>
> >>> Hi Guys and thanks for the replies..
> >>>
> >>> As some of you have said, Stan doesn't get paid for giving "free"
> >>> advise
> >>> but
> >>> I don't think he needed to be quite so...well, lets say less than
> >>> gentlemanly dealing with someone for the first time. If all he
> >>> wants to do
> >>> is sell boats then I would suggest that he would get more sales using
> >>> honey
> >>> than vinegar. You never know when someone on the other end may
> >>> become a
> >>> customer. 'Nuff said on that subject!!!
> >>>
> >>> Mike - Thanks for the photo of your boat and trailer. That looks
> >>> like what
> >>> I
> >>> had in mind (the strap) I just wanted to hear from folks that had
> >>> experience
> >>> and not make an expensive mistake.
> >>>
> >>> I plan on sailing on Belews Lake this Fall to get used to the boat.
> >>> We
> >>> will
> >>> then graduate to the rivers, inlets, and sound around Washington,
> >>> NC next
> >>> Spring.
> >>>
> >>> Orin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> View this message in context:
> >>>
> http://old.nabble.com/Securing-Boat-To-Trailer-Question-tp29473954p29476843.html
> >>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>>
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> Message: 22
> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 05:23:38 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Mike Cheung <hmcheung57 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Mast for Transit
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <29481306.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> I've thought the same thing about mid-mast support, but do have to say that
> we've trailered Muireann for two complete seasons (into our third now)
> without it and have seen no ill effects.
>
> Also, we've not used any means of attaching Muireann to her trailer other
> than the bow strap to the trailer winch.  Stan told us that we wouldn't
> need
> any and so far he's been right. With the highly curved bunks and a pretty
> heavy boat I'm not surprised she stays put.
>
>
> Stephen Staum wrote:
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > The pic of Ron's boat reminds me of a question. Does everyone w the
> > mast raising system go down the road w the mast unsupported in the
> > middle? I was not happy w the amount of flex in the mast while
> > driving. I will fabricate a wood support that will mount to the mast
> > mount & support the mast mid-ship to cut the flex. Does that make sense?
> >
> > Stephen Staum
> > 87 R22, Carol Lee
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Aug 18, 2010, at 7:22 PM, "Michael D. Weisner"
> > <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Orin,
> >>
> >> The photo is of Caesar Paul and Ron Singerman.  I believe that the
> >> picture
> >> is of Ron's boat (Serenity.)
> >>
> >> Caesar's boat is this beauty:
> >>
> http://raeid23.raenet.com/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20080612/6d77f137/attachment-0001.JPG
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/2bs57tk
> >>
> >> Yes, in your next life, you will want a trailer like Caesar's twin-
> >> axle.
> >> Remember, he trailered his boat cross country, a bit more than 250
> >> miles.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> >> Nissequogue River, NY
> >>
> >>
> >> From: "Orin" Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:49 PM
> >>>
> >>> Hi Guys and thanks for the replies..
> >>>
> >>> As some of you have said, Stan doesn't get paid for giving "free"
> >>> advise
> >>> but
> >>> I don't think he needed to be quite so...well, lets say less than
> >>> gentlemanly dealing with someone for the first time. If all he
> >>> wants to do
> >>> is sell boats then I would suggest that he would get more sales using
> >>> honey
> >>> than vinegar. You never know when someone on the other end may
> >>> become a
> >>> customer. 'Nuff said on that subject!!!
> >>>
> >>> Mike - Thanks for the photo of your boat and trailer. That looks
> >>> like what
> >>> I
> >>> had in mind (the strap) I just wanted to hear from folks that had
> >>> experience
> >>> and not make an expensive mistake.
> >>>
> >>> I plan on sailing on Belews Lake this Fall to get used to the boat.
> >>> We
> >>> will
> >>> then graduate to the rivers, inlets, and sound around Washington,
> >>> NC next
> >>> Spring.
> >>>
> >>> Orin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> View this message in context:
> >>>
> http://old.nabble.com/Securing-Boat-To-Trailer-Question-tp29473954p29476843.html
> >>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>>
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> -----
> Mike Cheung
> s/v Muireann 1993/2008 Rhodes 22
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://old.nabble.com/Securing-Boat-To-Trailer-Question-tp29473954p29481306.html
> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 06:22:52 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Melvyn Rothbard <melrothbard at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Mast for Transit
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <62187.75321.qm at web44806.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> I do not trailer my R22 but I do slip support pieces between the mast and
> the deck for the winter.  That way I don't worry about a heavy snow bending
> the unsupported middle section of the mast
>
> Mel Rothbard
>
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> --- On Thu, 8/19/10, Mike Cheung <hmcheung57 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > From: Mike Cheung <hmcheung57 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Mast for Transit
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 8:23 AM
> >
> > I've thought the same thing about mid-mast support, but do
> > have to say that
> > we've trailered Muireann for two complete seasons (into our
> > third now)
> > without it and have seen no ill effects.?
> >
> > Also, we've not used any means of attaching Muireann to her
> > trailer other
> > than the bow strap to the trailer winch.? Stan told us
> > that we wouldn't need
> > any and so far he's been right. With the highly curved
> > bunks and a pretty
> > heavy boat I'm not surprised she stays put.
> >
> >
> > Stephen Staum wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > The pic of Ron's boat reminds me of a question. Does
> > everyone w the?
> > > mast raising system go down the road w the mast
> > unsupported in the?
> > > middle? I was not happy w the amount of flex in the
> > mast while?
> > > driving. I will fabricate a wood support that will
> > mount to the mast?
> > > mount & support the mast mid-ship to cut the flex.
> > Does that make sense?
> > >
> > > Stephen Staum
> > > 87 R22, Carol Lee
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Aug 18, 2010, at 7:22 PM, "Michael D.
> > Weisner"?
> > > <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Orin,
> > >>
> > >> The photo is of Caesar Paul and Ron
> > Singerman.? I believe that the?
> > >> picture
> > >> is of Ron's boat (Serenity.)
> > >>
> > >> Caesar's boat is this beauty:
> > >>
> http://raeid23.raenet.com/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20080612/6d77f137/attachment-0001.JPG
> > >>
> > >> or
> > >>
> > >> http://tinyurl.com/2bs57tk
> > >>
> > >> Yes, in your next life, you will want a trailer
> > like Caesar's twin-
> > >> axle.
> > >> Remember, he trailered his boat cross country, a
> > bit more than 250?
> > >> miles.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> > >> Nissequogue River, NY
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: "Orin" Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:49 PM
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Guys and thanks for the replies..
> > >>>
> > >>> As some of you have said, Stan doesn't get
> > paid for giving "free"?
> > >>> advise
> > >>> but
> > >>> I don't think he needed to be quite so...well,
> > lets say less than
> > >>> gentlemanly dealing with someone for the first
> > time. If all he?
> > >>> wants to do
> > >>> is sell boats then I would suggest that he
> > would get more sales using
> > >>> honey
> > >>> than vinegar. You never know when someone on
> > the other end may?
> > >>> become a
> > >>> customer. 'Nuff said on that subject!!!
> > >>>
> > >>> Mike - Thanks for the photo of your boat and
> > trailer. That looks?
> > >>> like what
> > >>> I
> > >>> had in mind (the strap) I just wanted to hear
> > from folks that had
> > >>> experience
> > >>> and not make an expensive mistake.
> > >>>
> > >>> I plan on sailing on Belews Lake this Fall to
> > get used to the boat.?
> > >>> We
> > >>> will
> > >>> then graduate to the rivers, inlets, and sound
> > around Washington,?
> > >>> NC next
> > >>> Spring.
> > >>>
> > >>> Orin
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> View this message in context:
> > >>>
> http://old.nabble.com/Securing-Boat-To-Trailer-Question-tp29473954p29476843.html
> > >>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive
> > at Nabble.com.
> > >>>
> > >>>
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> > s/v Muireann 1993/2008 Rhodes 22
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>
> Message: 24
> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:05:42 -0500
> From: Ronald Lipton <ronald.lipton at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Mast for Transit
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <4C6D3A36.2030008 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I tie some old lifejackets to the middle of the mast to support it
> during transit and
> in the winter.
>
> Ron
>
>
> Melvyn Rothbard wrote:
> > I do not trailer my R22 but I do slip support pieces between the mast and
> the deck for the winter.  That way I don't worry about a heavy snow bending
> the unsupported middle section of the mast
> >
> > Mel Rothbard
> >
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> > --- On Thu, 8/19/10, Mike Cheung <hmcheung57 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> From: Mike Cheung <hmcheung57 at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Mast for Transit
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 8:23 AM
> >>
> >> I've thought the same thing about mid-mast support, but do
> >> have to say that
> >> we've trailered Muireann for two complete seasons (into our
> >> third now)
> >> without it and have seen no ill effects.
> >>
> >> Also, we've not used any means of attaching Muireann to her
> >> trailer other
> >> than the bow strap to the trailer winch.  Stan told us
> >> that we wouldn't need
> >> any and so far he's been right. With the highly curved
> >> bunks and a pretty
> >> heavy boat I'm not surprised she stays put.
> >>
> >>
> >> Stephen Staum wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear All,
> >>>
> >>> The pic of Ron's boat reminds me of a question. Does
> >>>
> >> everyone w the
> >>
> >>> mast raising system go down the road w the mast
> >>>
> >> unsupported in the
> >>
> >>> middle? I was not happy w the amount of flex in the
> >>>
> >> mast while
> >>
> >>> driving. I will fabricate a wood support that will
> >>>
> >> mount to the mast
> >>
> >>> mount & support the mast mid-ship to cut the flex.
> >>>
> >> Does that make sense?
> >>
> >>> Stephen Staum
> >>> 87 R22, Carol Lee
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 18, 2010, at 7:22 PM, "Michael D.
> >>>
> >> Weisner"
> >>
> >>> <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> >>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Orin,
> >>>>
> >>>> The photo is of Caesar Paul and Ron
> >>>>
> >> Singerman.  I believe that the
> >>
> >>>> picture
> >>>> is of Ron's boat (Serenity.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Caesar's boat is this beauty:
> >>>>
> http://raeid23.raenet.com/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20080612/6d77f137/attachment-0001.JPG
> >>>>
> >>>> or
> >>>>
> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/2bs57tk
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, in your next life, you will want a trailer
> >>>>
> >> like Caesar's twin-
> >>
> >>>> axle.
> >>>> Remember, he trailered his boat cross country, a
> >>>>
> >> bit more than 250
> >>
> >>>> miles.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> >>>> Nissequogue River, NY
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From: "Orin" Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:49 PM
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Guys and thanks for the replies..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As some of you have said, Stan doesn't get
> >>>>>
> >> paid for giving "free"
> >>
> >>>>> advise
> >>>>> but
> >>>>> I don't think he needed to be quite so...well,
> >>>>>
> >> lets say less than
> >>
> >>>>> gentlemanly dealing with someone for the first
> >>>>>
> >> time. If all he
> >>
> >>>>> wants to do
> >>>>> is sell boats then I would suggest that he
> >>>>>
> >> would get more sales using
> >>
> >>>>> honey
> >>>>> than vinegar. You never know when someone on
> >>>>>
> >> the other end may
> >>
> >>>>> become a
> >>>>> customer. 'Nuff said on that subject!!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mike - Thanks for the photo of your boat and
> >>>>>
> >> trailer. That looks
> >>
> >>>>> like what
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> had in mind (the strap) I just wanted to hear
> >>>>>
> >> from folks that had
> >>
> >>>>> experience
> >>>>> and not make an expensive mistake.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I plan on sailing on Belews Lake this Fall to
> >>>>>
> >> get used to the boat.
> >>
> >>>>> We
> >>>>> will
> >>>>> then graduate to the rivers, inlets, and sound
> >>>>>
> >> around Washington,
> >>
> >>>>> NC next
> >>>>> Spring.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Orin
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> View this message in context:
> >>>>>
> http://old.nabble.com/Securing-Boat-To-Trailer-Question-tp29473954p29476843.html
> >>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive
> >>>>>
> >> at Nabble.com.
> >>
> >>>>>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >>
> >>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the
> >>>>>
> >> mailing list and
> >>
> >>>>> archives go
> >>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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> >>>>>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >>
> >>>>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >>
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> >>>
> >> -----
> >> Mike Cheung
> >> s/v Muireann 1993/2008 Rhodes 22
> >> --
> >> View this message in context:
> http://old.nabble.com/Securing-Boat-To-Trailer-Question-tp29473954p29481306.html
> >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at
> >> Nabble.com.
> >>
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>
> Message: 25
> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:23:36 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Mast for Transit
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
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> How about a square seat cushion atop the PT hatch?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Stephen Staum <staum at earthlink.net>
> >Sent: Aug 18, 2010 10:41 PM
> >To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Securing Mast for Transit
> >
> >Dear All,
> >
> >The pic of Ron's boat reminds me of a question. Does everyone w the
> >mast raising system go down the road w the mast unsupported in the
> >middle? I was not happy w the amount of flex in the mast while
> >driving. I will fabricate a wood support that will mount to the mast
> >mount & support the mast mid-ship to cut the flex. Does that make sense?
> >
> >Stephen Staum
> >87 R22, Carol Lee
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >On Aug 18, 2010, at 7:22 PM, "Michael D. Weisner"
> ><mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Orin,
> >>
> >> The photo is of Caesar Paul and Ron Singerman.  I believe that the
> >> picture
> >> is of Ron's boat (Serenity.)
> >>
> >> Caesar's boat is this beauty:
> >>
> http://raeid23.raenet.com/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20080612/6d77f137/attachment-0001.JPG
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/2bs57tk
> >>
> >> Yes, in your next life, you will want a trailer like Caesar's twin-
> >> axle.
> >> Remember, he trailered his boat cross country, a bit more than 250
> >> miles.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> >> Nissequogue River, NY
> >>
> >>
> >> From: "Orin" Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:49 PM
> >>>
> >>> Hi Guys and thanks for the replies..
> >>>
> >>> As some of you have said, Stan doesn't get paid for giving "free"
> >>> advise
> >>> but
> >>> I don't think he needed to be quite so...well, lets say less than
> >>> gentlemanly dealing with someone for the first time. If all he
> >>> wants to do
> >>> is sell boats then I would suggest that he would get more sales using
> >>> honey
> >>> than vinegar. You never know when someone on the other end may
> >>> become a
> >>> customer. 'Nuff said on that subject!!!
> >>>
> >>> Mike - Thanks for the photo of your boat and trailer. That looks
> >>> like what
> >>> I
> >>> had in mind (the strap) I just wanted to hear from folks that had
> >>> experience
> >>> and not make an expensive mistake.
> >>>
> >>> I plan on sailing on Belews Lake this Fall to get used to the boat.
> >>> We
> >>> will
> >>> then graduate to the rivers, inlets, and sound around Washington,
> >>> NC next
> >>> Spring.
> >>>
> >>> Orin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>>
> http://old.nabble.com/Securing-Boat-To-Trailer-Question-tp29473954p29476843.html
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> >>>
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