[Rhodes22-list] Jessica Watson
BenCittadino
bencittadino at gmail.com
Fri Jan 29 23:50:55 EST 2010
Chris;
Thanks for the serious thought and effort you put into your comments. I
thought this discussion might help keep the list alive through the winter.
Some folks seem to be enjoying it. Others... not so much.
On a separate subject, where in Greece is your son? Were you serious about
Rhodes? Do you know the country well? My wife and I will be taking a
Seabourn cruise this Spring and I may want to pick your brain on a back
channel as Greece is on the itinerary. I know your surname suggests a Greek
heritage, but my surname suggests an Italian heritage and I can barely order
dinner in the language much less find my way around the countryside.
BenC
Geankoplis wrote:
>
> Ben, a thought,
> You know it is interesting, there are a lot of kids her age and younger
> who
> have done trans Pacific and trans Atlantic voyages and even
> circumnavigations while growing up on their parent's boat. It is
> interesting that no one from these backgrounds with extensive experience
> in
> voyaging has attempted such a voyage.....I wonder why? No point being
> made
> just curious. My son had been sailing since before he could walk and we
> sailed all over the Chesapeake, and he was on several Caribbean charters
> and
> crewed on a delivery from the U.S. V.I. to Ft. Lauderdale. I would
> consider
> that a minimum before a young person goes out on an independent voyage.
> Chris G.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of BenCittadino
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 09:13
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Jessica Watson
>
>
> Here is what the wikipedia site has to report about Jessica (in part):
>
> Her journey has been heavily criticised, particularly after the collision
> with the freighter. Barry Tyler of Pacific Motor Yacht magazine wrote,
> "like
> the majority of the seafaring world [I] consider it irresponsible,
> cavalier
> and indeed ignorant to attempt such a feat, at such a tender age and with
> so
> little trans-ocean experience."[7] Questions about her experience were
> also
> expressed by Phil Jones, the CEO of Yachting Australia, and by Grant
> Wharington, the skipper of Skandia, with Wharington stating that he had
> been
> impressed by Watson when they had met, but that he had advised her to gain
> experience by undertaking a number of shorter solo passages before
> attempting the circumnavigation, although she chosen not to follow his
> advice. In addition, Wharington noted that the report into her collision
> displayed evidence of what he referred to as "schoolboy errors".[8] A more
> general concern was raised by the Australian Childhood Foundation, who
> questioned whether a 16 year old would have the ability to fully
> understand
> the risks that such a venture would involve.[9]
>
> Nevertheless, Watson has had her supporters. In particular, adventurer Don
> McIntyre strongly supported her attempt, providing her with a boat and
> speaking in support of her attempt.[10] Similarly, Tony Mowbray, who, like
> McIntyre, has previously circumnavigated the globe, provided his support,
> arguing that she was "doing it for the right reasons" and that he was
> confident of her success.[11] The captain of the Magic Roundabout spoke
> highly of her skills, backing her circumnavigation attempt by describing
> her
> as a "damn-good crew member" and stating that he believed that she
> possessed
> the necessary abilities.[12] Also adventurer and company owner Richard
> Branson gave his support before departure.[13]
>
> During her journey others have expressed their support for her attempt.
> Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said in a public speech on 26 January
> that "Jessica Watson ... is an extraordinary young Australian"[14]
> According
> to ABC News, competing circumnavigator Abby Sunderland congratulated
> Jessica
> on rounding Cape Horn, "She's done an amazing job and I hope the rest of
> her
> trip goes as well as it has so far."[15]
>
>
> I just hope her parents don't come to regret this. I don't believe I could
> live with myself if I were her Dad and she was seriously injured or
> killed.
>
> But I must say I am fascinated by the divergence of opinion about this.
>
> BenC
>
>
>
> Hank-5 wrote:
>>
>> Her brother completed an around the world assissted run last summer.
>>
>> Hank
>>
>> On 1/27/10, ejor2 at aol.com <ejor2 at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's another one going for it..
>>>
>>> www.abbysunderland.com
>>>
>>> It's amazing how different the two seem, from boat choice to reasons for
>>> trying...
>>>
>>> As a parent of teens, I'd much rather have them have the ambition to do
>>> something than see them attached to the sofa with a game controller in
>>> there
>>> hand or out running around with a pack and getting into trouble. Kids
>>> are
>>> all so different, out of my 3, there is only one I'd even consider
>>> letting
>>> do something like this, if they had the skills and tools nessesary.
>>>
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Sent: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 4:34 am
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Jessica Watson
>>>
>>>
>>> Ben,
>>> respectfully must tell you that you are wrong on this one. I'm glad she
>>> on't grow up to be another sheep in the herd. Who knows? She may not
>>> omplete the voyage, but at least she had the will to try.
>>>
>>> ummy
>>>
>>>
>>> n a message dated 1/26/2010 10:23:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> encittadino at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> was thinking that her parents sound like "balloon boy" types. I agree
>>> er
>>> kill level may be high, but there are certain things we don't let
>>> parents
>>> et their children do as civilized people. Regardless of "special
>>> ircumstances" or a high level of maturity, we don't allow children to
>>> rive
>>> ars until a certain age, or join the army, or drink in a tavern, or
>>> onsent
>>> o sex, or sign contracts or a million other things they as individuals
>>> ight be able to handle. My point was that this child is too young to
>>> fully
>>> ppreciate the dangers of this stunt (and stunt is what it is). She
>>> isn't
>>> ld enough to consent to having a tooth pulled, but these clowns send
>>> her
>>> ff, or allow her to go off, in a 34' sailboat to sail the high seas.
>>> Her
>>> arents are nuts (not to put too fine a point on it); but that's just my
>>> pinion. I could be wrong.
>>> yours truly,
>>> BenC
>>>
>>>
>>> ohn Shulick wrote:
>>>
>>> The lesson this spoiled brat will learn is that she is above the rules
>>> established for normal people in this country. Check me if I'm wrong
>>> but
>>> don't 16 yr. olds have to go to high school. O I'm sorry that's only
>>> required for people who can't buy their way out of the system. See
>>> Tiger
>>> Woods for more examples of sticking your finger up the laws ass. If I
>>> smashed up a car while on prescription meds what do you think would
>>> happen? Could I tell the law when I will decide to meet with them or
>>> ould
>>> I be hauled off to the nearest hospital foe a blood test. The lesson
>>> she
>>> learns will be that rules don't apply to her.
>>>
>>>
>>> R22RumRunner wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ben,
>>>> The life lessons this "little" girl will have when she finishes this
>>>> voyage
>>>> will benefit her for an entire lifetime. Nothing wrong with being
>>>> independent and being able to do things for oneself. I'm sure that
>>>> her
>>>> parents
>>>> would never have allowed her to do this if she wasn't qualified. She
>>>> must have
>>>> tremendous sailing skills.
>>>>
>>>> Rummy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 1/26/2010 11:33:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>> bencittadino at gmail.com writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rummy, Ben & Chris;
>>>>
>>>> Please tell me you guys are just jerkin' my chain. You don't really
>>>> think
>>>> it's OK to send a child to sea alone in a quest for...what?...some
>>>> stupid
>>>> "record". Maybe we should stock her up with plenty of Mt. Gay? I have
>>>> real
>>>> problems with our "celebrity" culture and this case just pushes my
>>>> buttons
>>>> for some reason. Don't worry, I'll get over it as soon as the
>>>> medicine
>>>> kicks
>>>> in.
>>>>
>>>> BenC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Geankoplis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey I think it is great, beats joy riding with a bunch of drunk 18
>>> ear
>>>>> old
>>>>> boyfriends.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin
>>>>> Cittadino
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 11:11
>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Jessica Watson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anybody else think the parents of this child should be in jail?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BenCittadino
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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