[Rhodes22-list] Submerged Rhodes

Thu Mar 4 22:42:57 EST 2010

Here is my dumb guess. Note that it is only a partially submerged 
Rhodes. My guess: Snow filled the cockpit and decks unevenly and 
pushed a usually above the water thru-hull (like the sink or the 
cockpit drains through the lazarette) under. Add a loose fitting or 
wind that pushes it over and you have a filled cockpit,  cabin or 
lazarette allowing more water over the combings. The flotation is the 
only reason the boat is only half sunk. Pump it out and it pops back 
up which fits with someone (Todd, I think) reporting that the boat 
was now floating on her lines.

Lee, I think your boat is either better maintained, in a more 
sheltered spot or you are just plain lucky. Maybe they had wetter 
snow across the bay. Maybe the boat had blocked cockpit drains. Lots 
of simple possibilities to combine with a boatload of snow and ice.

Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Rock Hall, MD

At 03:30 PM 3/4/2010, you wrote:
>It had to have been more than snow and ice.  My boat has been covered in
>snow since December 18th.  At times the drift caused by the marina
>bulkhead piled the snow up to the boom.  I still don't think the snow
>weighed any more than a portly crew.
>
>I visited my boat yesterday.  There was still a little bit of snow on
>the cockpit floor but I was able to access the cabin.  I was surprised
>to find that the bilge and cushions were dry--no evidence of
>condensation either.
>
>I think the spring sailing season has started!
>
>Lee
>1986 Rhodes22  AT EASE
>Kent Island, MD
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Submerged Rhodes
>
>your and Rummy of course are correct - I think that is a shallow water
>way
>and might theorize that the snow load was enough to push it down enough
>to
>bed the keel in the mud (the self bailers would have been clogged) and
>once
>full of water it did not take much resistance to keep it down?
>
>ss
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:54 PM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Submerged Rhodes
>
>
> > Stan,
> >
> > I thought that ice floats on water?  If the ice caused submersion, it
> > would
> > only be until it starts to float (hull might be under but not on
>bottom.)
> >
> > Mike
> > s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> > Nissequogue River, NY
> >
> >
> > From: "stan"  Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:05 PM
> >> believe it - I think 6 went down and at least one was a Rhodes
> >>
> >> the weight of the ice was more than the floatation could handle.
> >>
> >> ss
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> >> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:58 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Submerged Rhodes
> >>
> >>
> >>> Marlan,
> >>> I have trouble believing that this is a Rhodes 22. R22's don't sink.
>
> >>> They
> >>> are built with positive flotation.
> >>>
> >>> Rummy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 3/3/2010 12:21:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> >>> marlangreen at hotmail.com writes:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This  was sent out through my sailing club. Washingotn Sailing
>Marina is
> >>> on
> >>> the  Virginia side of the Potomac. I'm not sure if this is a Rhodes
>or
> >>> not.
> >>> If it  is will anyone out there save it?
> >>>
> >>> See attached document for  photos
> >>>
> >>> Marlan
> >>> Message:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Per discussions with  Washington Sailing Marina (WSM) there
> >>> is still one boat down (see pic #1  and #2 on this page).  It may be
>a
> >>> Rhodes
> >>> 22? Of recent vintage with  ballpark before storm values of 5k or
>10k or
> >>> even
> >>> 20k.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At the going rate of 20 per foot for diver salvage  the
> >>> insurance company may be looking at the cost of salvaging for 4 or
>5k a
> >>> boat
> >>> which may only now be worth much less.
> >>> This may be an opportunity  for a SCOW member to make an offer on
>this
> >>> boat.  Per WSM a sealed  letter could be
> >>> mailed to the slip holder.  It may say
> >>> something  akin to - "I'm willing to pay _____ (amount) for this
>boat".
> >>> Note also  that slip fees are due on this slip
> >>> on April 1st, 2010.
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