[Rhodes22-list] Cotter pins vs. rings

[R Orkin]

Here is a site but at 7.95 for 2 I think I will pass
http://www.pyacht.com/johnson-wrap-pins.htm

That is why I was contemplating making them



Blue Heron wrote:
> 
> I got those velcro thingys and love 'em.  Need a couple more.  Forgot
> where
> I got them.  Do you know?
> 
> Rick
> 
> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:12 PM, R Orkin <roryorkin at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>>
>> I use the same set up.. With rigging tape cotter pins dont snag.. I have
>> tried both pins and rings and find that both are a PITA.. Rings are more
>> expensive.. THere is a system I would like to try that is a pin attached
>> to
>> velcro that you push through then wrap the velcro.. Perhaps someone on
>> this
>> list has tried them.. Seems like they could be home made as well
>>
>>
>>
>> Mary Lou Troy-2 wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Matthew,
>> > We use rings and tape them where they might be snagged by a sheet. I
>> > hate cotter pins. No matter how smooth you make the ends, it seems
>> > that there is always something waiting to snag you or the sheet. With
>> > a Leatherman or pliers, they aren't too difficult to remove but I
>> > just don't like them. Actually, I fint the rings just as hard to
>> > remove under ordinary circumstances. We do try to keep an eye on them
>> > and replace them if they start to get bent out of shape or have
>> > protruding ends. I don't think we've ever had one release itself
>> > except when snagged by a sheet. That was the main sheet and the
>> > offending ring was one holding the mainsheet tackle to the boom
>> > (oops, bring her into the wind). Spares are always good.
>> >
>> > We also use a bit of monel wire on the screw end of the stays (inside
>> > the turnbuckle) to make sure they don't unscrew themselves. We used
>> > to use small zip-ties for that but when we replaced the rigging a few
>> > years ago the replacement parts had much smaller holes in the
>> > threaded pieces. We did have a shroud unscrew itself once. It wasn't
>> > a major problem with the other stays holding the mast in place but I
>> > did crossthread the turnbuckle reattaching it so that we had to
>> > replace the barrel.
>> >
>> > Mary Lou
>> > 1991 R22  Fretless
>> > Rock Hall, MD
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At 01:27 PM 5/7/2010, you wrote:
>> >>Hi all,
>> >>
>> >>This may be a question more appropriate for those of you who leave the
>> >>standing rigging, well, standing, but I'd like to know what you use to
>> >>secure the clevis pins on your boats.
>> >>
>> >>As a bit of backstory, you should know that I've recently inherited
>> >>(pre-death) the Rhodes from my uncle, a lifelong sailor.  My sailing
>> >>experience is limited to a handful of daysails, but the Admiral in my
>> life
>> >>has considerably more time on the water (she never lets me forget that
>> she
>> >>attended St. Mary's College of Maryland, where, to hear her tell it,
>> they
>> >>hand out ASA certifications with every diploma).
>> >>
>> >>My uncle, who is incredibly accident prone, is of the opinion that the
>> >>"cotter rings" (what I call "expensive stainless key chains") tend to
>> come
>> >>loose, and basic cotter pins are more secure.  My (limited) impression
>> is
>> >>that while the cotter pins may be more secure, they make it more
>> difficult
>> >>to take out a pin if the need should arise.  It would seem that the
>> rings
>> >>would make sense if you are trailering your boat quite a bit, but we'll
>> be
>> >>in a slip for the season.
>> >>
>> >>I'd love to hear your opinions.
>> >>
>> >>Thanks,
>> >>
>> >>Porter
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