[Rhodes22-list] Cotter pins vs. rings

[Rick]

I got those velcro thingys and love 'em.  Need a couple more.  Forgot where
I got them.  Do you know?

Rick

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:12 PM, R Orkin <roryorkin at verizon.net> wrote:

>
> I use the same set up.. With rigging tape cotter pins dont snag.. I have
> tried both pins and rings and find that both are a PITA.. Rings are more
> expensive.. THere is a system I would like to try that is a pin attached to
> velcro that you push through then wrap the velcro.. Perhaps someone on this
> list has tried them.. Seems like they could be home made as well
>
>
>
> Mary Lou Troy-2 wrote:
> >
> > Hi Matthew,
> > We use rings and tape them where they might be snagged by a sheet. I
> > hate cotter pins. No matter how smooth you make the ends, it seems
> > that there is always something waiting to snag you or the sheet. With
> > a Leatherman or pliers, they aren't too difficult to remove but I
> > just don't like them. Actually, I fint the rings just as hard to
> > remove under ordinary circumstances. We do try to keep an eye on them
> > and replace them if they start to get bent out of shape or have
> > protruding ends. I don't think we've ever had one release itself
> > except when snagged by a sheet. That was the main sheet and the
> > offending ring was one holding the mainsheet tackle to the boom
> > (oops, bring her into the wind). Spares are always good.
> >
> > We also use a bit of monel wire on the screw end of the stays (inside
> > the turnbuckle) to make sure they don't unscrew themselves. We used
> > to use small zip-ties for that but when we replaced the rigging a few
> > years ago the replacement parts had much smaller holes in the
> > threaded pieces. We did have a shroud unscrew itself once. It wasn't
> > a major problem with the other stays holding the mast in place but I
> > did crossthread the turnbuckle reattaching it so that we had to
> > replace the barrel.
> >
> > Mary Lou
> > 1991 R22  Fretless
> > Rock Hall, MD
> >
> >
> >
> > At 01:27 PM 5/7/2010, you wrote:
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>This may be a question more appropriate for those of you who leave the
> >>standing rigging, well, standing, but I'd like to know what you use to
> >>secure the clevis pins on your boats.
> >>
> >>As a bit of backstory, you should know that I've recently inherited
> >>(pre-death) the Rhodes from my uncle, a lifelong sailor.  My sailing
> >>experience is limited to a handful of daysails, but the Admiral in my
> life
> >>has considerably more time on the water (she never lets me forget that
> she
> >>attended St. Mary's College of Maryland, where, to hear her tell it, they
> >>hand out ASA certifications with every diploma).
> >>
> >>My uncle, who is incredibly accident prone, is of the opinion that the
> >>"cotter rings" (what I call "expensive stainless key chains") tend to
> come
> >>loose, and basic cotter pins are more secure.  My (limited) impression is
> >>that while the cotter pins may be more secure, they make it more
> difficult
> >>to take out a pin if the need should arise.  It would seem that the rings
> >>would make sense if you are trailering your boat quite a bit, but we'll
> be
> >>in a slip for the season.
> >>
> >>I'd love to hear your opinions.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Porter
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> Rory Orkin
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